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<H1>[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA</H1>
<B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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<I>Wed Mar 9 00:40:51 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>2011/3/9 Raphaël Jadot <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ashledombos at hodo.fr</A>>:
><i> 2011/3/8 Balcaen John <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">balcaen.john at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>>><i> Le Tuesday 08 March 2011 18:11:11, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :
</I>>><i> [...]
</I>>>><i> Tsktsk, my post probably ends up being labelled as flamebait, troll, too
</I>>>><i> long and boring, biased and what not..
</I>>><i> [...]
</I>>><i> This list is not write only...
</I>>><i> If you've got personnal problem with dmorgan just send him a personal email i
</I>>><i> don't care, but i guess that ennael wrote 3 hours before this last mail from
</I>>><i> you that mageia seems to have choose rpm.org so maybe we can really close this
</I>>><i> subject/thread for now instead of talking again & again about the fantastic
</I>>><i> rpm(5).org feature/upstream/it's a revolution/another apple commercial
</I>>><i> here/etc etc.
</I>>><i> It's just boring...
</I>>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> mm ?
</I>><i> I have not the feeling that it was the subject... i read again... ok
</I>><i> he seems to have a great +1 to rpm5, but i did not see that he wanted
</I>><i> insisted or moan in order we use rpm5...
</I>><i> The mails are hard to read, and long, and very technicals,  but what
</I>><i> catched my eyes is some things like
</I>><i> "level of compatibility" between Mageia & rpm5 is far greater than any
</I>><i> other (with
</I>><i> other rpm5 based distros being more compatible with Mageia than Mageia
</I>><i> is with non-rpm5 based distros as well"
</I>><i> So it doesn't mean we have to move to rpm5 for being compatible with
</I>><i> rpm5, so where is the problem ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I just wonder, why having discussions about technical things like
</I>><i> adults is impossible ? are rpm.org and rpm5 religions ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So if Per Oyvind offers help, unless there are hidden things i do not
</I>><i> understand, and if he can improve rpm.org or compatibility stuff or
</I>><i> whatever, why nobody says "ok, why not, tell us, maybe you could help,
</I>><i> maybe not" Did not find it (at least in this ML)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Seems it's not the first time, in this mail
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html</A>
</I>><i> he told  "(if interested, I could help assist you on writing something
</I>><i> equivalent for compatibility wrapping similar to what I did in the
</I>><i> past with rpm4compat.h & rpm46compat.h to make ie. URPM able to use
</I>><i> rpm 4.4 & 4.6 api with rpm5, let's say rpm5compat.h or something).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Whatever you end up doing, don't be afraid of asking or trying to
</I>><i> communicate on, the mutual benefits of collaboration are rather
</I>><i> obvious. <;o)
</I>><i> If not, sorry for imposing."
</I>><i>
</I>><i> This mail had no answer, so what, is this guy a kind of antichrist of
</I>><i> rpm , talking with sugar words and trying to backstab you ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> And at least, If the question are asked over and over, why is there so
</I>><i> few things in archives about it ? Sure every one knows mageia will not
</I>><i> hurry to go to rpm5 tomorow, and so what ? If some are bored about
</I>><i> some related questions, why not opening a FAQ that explain it, or that
</I>><i> just point to the related archive/topic (which could be this one) ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Sorry but I hate people bashing when i don't understand it. So if
</I>><i> there are personal anger, try to get over, or explain and communicate
</I>><i> better.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> RJ
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Hi,
How many times is Mageia going to say "thanks, but no thanks"? how
many more bug reports/breakage does cooker have to suffer to make it
clear that Mageia doesn't want the same headache, in the near future
at all?
Personally I don't want to see mageia-dev ML have the same
rpm5-main-water-pipe explode in it like what happened in cooker@,
suddenly rpm5 is the answer to everything, from Jeff Johnson's point
of view, well, good for you. :)
You wanna know why people can't communicate better? see how long
proyvind's emails usually are. You didn't get bored? :)
--
Ahmad Samir
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