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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Fri Feb 25 01:12:07 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 25 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 00:09 +0200, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 24.02.2011 21:15, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le jeudi 24 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 20:30 +0200, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I have about 15-30 entries in everyone of Internet, Office, Audio/Video,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Tools, Tools-&gt;System submenus.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; By submenu, you mean the &quot;more&quot; submenu ? I fail to understand what do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you have exactly, can you provides a screenshot ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, I mean menu entries directly under those menus.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu1.png">http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu1.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu2.png">http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu2.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO too many entries there.
+</I>
+We agree. Now, what ever you do, there is too much entries.
+In the end, if you have a deep hierarchy, there is still a problem
+and you will hit a limit, no matter what you do.
+
+&gt;<i> With two levels I think at least the number
+</I>&gt;<i> of entries/submenus directly under the Internet menu would be
+</I>&gt;<i> significantly reduced.
+</I>
+Likely.
+Then I misunderstood you when ou told &quot;keep the current system&quot;.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; With a two-level system it would be considerably less and closer to the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ~7 you mention.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Depend, what is the process that you are wanting to improve ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( and closer is not good enough, even if 15 is nearer to 7 than 20,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that's still too much and a different process is used ( according to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; studies ))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No idea. IMO finding the wanted application is faster when it goes
+</I>&gt;<i> Internet =&gt; 5-7 submenus =&gt; each with 2-5 app entries
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of the current
+</I>&gt;<i> Internet =&gt; 20 app entries, plus 10 more in &quot;More&quot;
+</I>
+Yes. But I think that what some people want is
+Internet =&gt; 30 apps.
+( ie, suppress More )
+
+Citing tux99 :
+
+&quot;I'm pretty sure that if we make a survey among Mandriva users the
+majority will be saying they don't like apps hidden behind &quot;More&quot; as it
+currently happens, they would want them in the higher level with all
+the other apps of the same type.&quot;
+
+So maybe I misunderstood.
+
+What need to be taken in account too is also the case
+Internet =&gt; 5-7 apps.
+
+Having :
+Internet =&gt; 5-7 submenus =&gt; 1 app entry
+is IMHO clearly suboptimal.
+
+( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a lot ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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