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These packages are used on the professional +platform : Red Hat Enterprise Linux. + + Last project, "jpp6", provides rpm packages built on java6 +(JavaRuntimeEnvironment 1.6) and more than 2700 packages are ready to be +installed on any rpm based system. +see : <A HREF="http://www.jpackage.org/browser/browse.php?jppversion=6.0">http://www.jpackage.org/browser/browse.php?jppversion=6.0</A> + +This is not the 400 packages of Mandriva project. Jpackage provides most +of all java applications from the apache foundation (tomcat, maven, +glassfish, hibernate, jakarta etc...) but also the J2EE application +server "jboss" (from Red Hat now). + +"jpp6" project is still under "Work In Progress" (WIP) state but I guess +the number of package will reach the number of the actual "stable" +version 5 : 3327 rpms. +see : <A HREF="http://www.jpackage.org/browser/browse.php?jppversion=5.0">http://www.jpackage.org/browser/browse.php?jppversion=5.0</A> + + +2) JavaRuntimeEnvironment 1.6 aka java6 VM is the version provided in +Mandriva cooker (and now Mageia caultron I guess) and it already +provides the "jpackage-utils" package which is necessary to run packages +from a jpackage repository. +Jpackage now (jpp6) uses java compiler : openjdk + +Despite the arguments why Mandriva developers left the jpackage project +to build their own java packages. +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Compatibility_with_proprietary_Java_stacks">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Compatibility_with_proprietary_Java_stacks</A> + + + We are at the beginning of a new rpm based distribution. It would be +stupid and suicidal to work on our own java packages and reinvent the +wheel again and again. If we want Mageia becomes a major distribution on +java application servers also, we have to consider jpackage as source of +java packages. Then we can concentrate our java packagers to improve the +"time to market" of jpackage applications and on desktop application +(tuxguitar, sweethome3d, JOSM, homeplayer etc..) and all java +application that lack in jpackage and why not try to provide them to +jpackage. + + + +3) If you want to test the jpackage repository on your actual distro. + +3.1) add a jpackage repository in mandriva cooker. (test on mdv cooker +dec 2010) + +3.1.1) add the jpackage key + +# rpm --import <A HREF="http://www.jpackage.org/jpackage.asc">http://www.jpackage.org/jpackage.asc</A> + +(ref : <A HREF="http://jpackage.org/gpgkey.php">http://jpackage.org/gpgkey.php</A>) + +3.1.2) replace jpackage-utils-1.7.5 by jpackage-utils-5.0.0 +(I guess final version will be jpackage-utils-6.0.0) + +# rpm -Uvh +<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/RPMS/jpackage-utils-5.0.0-2.jpp6.noarch.rpm">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/RPMS/jpackage-utils-5.0.0-2.jpp6.noarch.rpm</A> + +3.1.3) add the jpackage-6.0-generic-free depot + + The standard command provides an error : +# urpmi.addmedia jpackage-6.0-generic +<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free</A> +with hdlist.cz +adding medium "jpackage-6.0-generic" +...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 22 + +no metadata found for medium + +This is because urpmi runs the following command : +/usr/bin/curl -q -s --location-trusted -R -f --disable-epsv +--connect-timeout 60 --anyauth --stderr - -O +<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/reconfig.urpmi">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/reconfig.urpmi</A> + +and this reconfig.urpmi does not exist on the jpackage depot (I guess +this is a mismatch between "urpmi" version) + +solution : +# urpmi.addmedia --probe-synthesis jpackage-6.0-generic-free +<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/RPMS">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/RPMS</A> + +3.1.4) add the jpackage-6.0-generic-non-free depot (empty depot on +2010-dec but can be useful) +# urpmi.addmedia --probe-synthesis jpackage-6.0-generic-non-free +<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/non-free/RPMS">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/non-free/RPMS</A> + + + +4) some major application already packaged on jpp6 : +ant +glassfish +hibernate +jakarta +jboss +log4j +lucene +maven +saxon +tomcat +xerces +xalan +wsdl4j +etc... + +see "Available Groups" for more details +<A HREF="http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/repoview/index.html">http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/repoview/index.html</A> + + +5) some old links found about Co-existence_with_JPackage: +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Co-existence_with_JPackage">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Co-existence_with_JPackage</A> +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Java/JPackage">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Java/JPackage</A> + + +6) So why don't we consider "jpackage" with the new eye of a new distro +and consider it as an external java application repository like we +already use "plf" ? +Why don't we work closer with the jpackage team to improve the urpmi +connection ? + + +long life to Mageia, +Pierrick Hervé +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002359.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action... +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002348.html">[Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2346">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2346">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2346">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2346">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |