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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I know -dev team doesn't exist yet, but in spite of that: some of us may be
+needed.
+
+Yesterday in the packaging meeting[1], misc and Stormi talked about the 3days
+they went to a Cross-Distro App Installer Meeting[2]. As far as I understood,
+our involvement in AppStream[3] is 4 part:
+ - mageia-app-db would like to use the metadata to display on the site.
+ - sophie would like some of the metadata too.
+ - mageia could work on making packagekit support work (it does not replace
+rpm or urpmi in any way, it is cross-distro and just delegates the work to
+urpmi (in our case).)
+ - mageia would then package AppStream in the distro. (Nothing is being said
+as being used by default: Note that AppStream only does Applications, while
+eg: rpmdrake installs packages).
+
+Since this concerns mostly packaging, it has had a start-discussion in the
+packagers' meeting.
+
+However:
+ - mageia-app-db (Stormi: PHP) would like some help.
+ - sophie (Nanar: Perl) would like some help.
+ - packagekit support (misc: Perl) would need to be finalized.
+( requires intimate knowledge of perl-URPM )
+ - someone will have to package AppStream eventually.
+
+
+afaik shikamaru would help with sophie, so i think that is covered.
+
+So this leaves:
+ - PHP for mageia-app-db
+ - Perl-URPMI related stuff for packagekit support (i might have some time for
+this, not sure yet)
+
+Now then, if there is anyone from -dev team who is inclined to help out,
+please, tell us :-)
+
+Regards,
+
+Maarten (aka AL13N)
+
+
+[1]: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#packaging_team">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#packaging_team</A>
+[2]: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110126/003418.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110126/003418.html</A>
+[3]: <A HREF="http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream/MetadataNotes">http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream/MetadataNotes</A>
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+<PRE>Refection about Java_Packaging_Policy : what about a jpackage project
+for mageia java based rpm ?
+
+like others I am still a &quot;padawan&quot; packager, but I also plan to work on
+java (and music) packages
+
+I follow this thread with interest for few days and I wonder why nobody
+thinks to just import java packages from jpackage repositories ?
+
+
+1) For many years jpackage.org project provides strong rpm packages of
+java based applications. These packages are used on the professional
+platform : Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
+
+ Last project, &quot;jpp6&quot;, provides rpm packages built on java6
+(JavaRuntimeEnvironment 1.6) and more than 2700 packages are ready to be
+installed on any rpm based system.
+see : <A HREF="http://www.jpackage.org/browser/browse.php?jppversion=6.0">http://www.jpackage.org/browser/browse.php?jppversion=6.0</A>
+
+This is not the 400 packages of Mandriva project. Jpackage provides most
+of all java applications from the apache foundation (tomcat, maven,
+glassfish, hibernate, jakarta etc...) but also the J2EE application
+server &quot;jboss&quot; (from Red Hat now).
+
+&quot;jpp6&quot; project is still under &quot;Work In Progress&quot; (WIP) state but I guess
+the number of package will reach the number of the actual &quot;stable&quot;
+version 5 : 3327 rpms.
+see : <A HREF="http://www.jpackage.org/browser/browse.php?jppversion=5.0">http://www.jpackage.org/browser/browse.php?jppversion=5.0</A>
+
+
+2) JavaRuntimeEnvironment 1.6 aka java6 VM is the version provided in
+Mandriva cooker (and now Mageia caultron I guess) and it already
+provides the &quot;jpackage-utils&quot; package which is necessary to run packages
+from a jpackage repository.
+Jpackage now (jpp6) uses java compiler : openjdk
+
+Despite the arguments why Mandriva developers left the jpackage project
+to build their own java packages.
+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Compatibility_with_proprietary_Java_stacks">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Compatibility_with_proprietary_Java_stacks</A>
+
+
+ We are at the beginning of a new rpm based distribution. It would be
+stupid and suicidal to work on our own java packages and reinvent the
+wheel again and again. If we want Mageia becomes a major distribution on
+java application servers also, we have to consider jpackage as source of
+java packages. Then we can concentrate our java packagers to improve the
+&quot;time to market&quot; of jpackage applications and on desktop application
+(tuxguitar, sweethome3d, JOSM, homeplayer etc..) and all java
+application that lack in jpackage and why not try to provide them to
+jpackage.
+
+
+
+3) If you want to test the jpackage repository on your actual distro.
+
+3.1) add a jpackage repository in mandriva cooker. (test on mdv cooker
+dec 2010)
+
+3.1.1) add the jpackage key
+
+# rpm --import <A HREF="http://www.jpackage.org/jpackage.asc">http://www.jpackage.org/jpackage.asc</A>
+
+(ref : <A HREF="http://jpackage.org/gpgkey.php">http://jpackage.org/gpgkey.php</A>)
+
+3.1.2) replace jpackage-utils-1.7.5 by jpackage-utils-5.0.0
+(I guess final version will be jpackage-utils-6.0.0)
+
+# rpm -Uvh
+<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/RPMS/jpackage-utils-5.0.0-2.jpp6.noarch.rpm">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/RPMS/jpackage-utils-5.0.0-2.jpp6.noarch.rpm</A>
+
+3.1.3) add the jpackage-6.0-generic-free depot
+
+ The standard command provides an error :
+# urpmi.addmedia jpackage-6.0-generic
+<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free</A>
+with hdlist.cz
+adding medium &quot;jpackage-6.0-generic&quot;
+...retrieving failed: curl failed: exited with 22
+
+no metadata found for medium
+
+This is because urpmi runs the following command :
+/usr/bin/curl -q -s --location-trusted -R -f --disable-epsv
+--connect-timeout 60 --anyauth --stderr - -O
+<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/reconfig.urpmi">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/reconfig.urpmi</A>
+
+and this reconfig.urpmi does not exist on the jpackage depot (I guess
+this is a mismatch between &quot;urpmi&quot; version)
+
+solution :
+# urpmi.addmedia --probe-synthesis jpackage-6.0-generic-free
+<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/RPMS">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/RPMS</A>
+
+3.1.4) add the jpackage-6.0-generic-non-free depot (empty depot on
+2010-dec but can be useful)
+# urpmi.addmedia --probe-synthesis jpackage-6.0-generic-non-free
+<A HREF="http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/non-free/RPMS">http://vesta.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/comp/Linux/jpackage/6.0/generic/non-free/RPMS</A>
+
+
+
+4) some major application already packaged on jpp6 :
+ant
+glassfish
+hibernate
+jakarta
+jboss
+log4j
+lucene
+maven
+saxon
+tomcat
+xerces
+xalan
+wsdl4j
+etc...
+
+see &quot;Available Groups&quot; for more details
+<A HREF="http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/repoview/index.html">http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/jpackage/6.0/generic/free/repoview/index.html</A>
+
+
+5) some old links found about Co-existence_with_JPackage:
+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Co-existence_with_JPackage">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Co-existence_with_JPackage</A>
+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Java/JPackage">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Java/JPackage</A>
+
+
+6) So why don't we consider &quot;jpackage&quot; with the new eye of a new distro
+and consider it as an external java application repository like we
+already use &quot;plf&quot; ?
+Why don't we work closer with the jpackage team to improve the urpmi
+connection ?
+
+
+long life to Mageia,
+Pierrick Herv&#233;
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+<PRE>2011/1/27 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know -dev team doesn't exist yet, but in spite of that: some of us may be
+</I>&gt;<i> needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yesterday in the packaging meeting[1], misc and Stormi talked about the 3days
+</I>&gt;<i> they went to a Cross-Distro App Installer Meeting[2]. As far as I understood,
+</I>&gt;<i> our involvement in AppStream[3] is 4 part:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- mageia-app-db would like to use the metadata to display on the site.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- sophie would like some of the metadata too.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- mageia could work on making packagekit support work (it does not replace
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm or urpmi in any way, it is cross-distro and just delegates the work to
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi (in our case).)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- mageia would then package AppStream in the distro. (Nothing is being said
+</I>&gt;<i> as being used by default: Note that AppStream only does Applications, while
+</I>&gt;<i> eg: rpmdrake installs packages).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since this concerns mostly packaging, it has had a start-discussion in the
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers' meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- mageia-app-db (Stormi: PHP) would like some help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- sophie (Nanar: Perl) would like some help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- packagekit support (misc: Perl) would need to be finalized.
+</I>&gt;<i> ( requires intimate knowledge of perl-URPM )
+</I>Getting familiar with package kit is on my todo list, dunno much about
+urpmi support
+and if there's anything lacking or not. Lemme know if you have any questions on
+perl-URPM or if there's any specific issues, I can likely fix them
+within short time. :)
+
+--
+Regards,
+Per &#216;yvind
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 27 janvier 2011 &#224; 02:40 +0100, piep a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Refection about Java_Packaging_Policy : what about a jpackage project
+</I>&gt;<i> for mageia java based rpm ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> like others I am still a &quot;padawan&quot; packager, but I also plan to work on
+</I>&gt;<i> java (and music) packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I follow this thread with interest for few days and I wonder why nobody
+</I>&gt;<i> thinks to just import java packages from jpackage repositories ?
+</I>
+Because we already use their rpms. And that's a complex mess of
+dependencies, with unneeded complexity.
+
+For example, if you look at
+<A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/jakarta-commons-lang/current/SPECS/jakarta-commons-lang.spec">svn://svn.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/jakarta-commons-lang/current/SPECS/jakarta-commons-lang.spec</A>
+, you can see
+1) the copyright of jpackage ( hence my point, but check any java
+package )
+2) it support gcj and non gcj ( ie twice the work if we want to test )
+3) a weird release ( 2.3.4 )
+
+4) various %post that should have been converted to trigger ( but since
+it is not uniform on all distro, they prefered to cut and paste ).
+
+Another issue is they package several version of the same software
+( like 5 releases of groovy, 3 versions of junit , etc ). This is
+something requires more ressources.
+
+&gt;<i> 1) For many years jpackage.org project provides strong rpm packages of
+</I>&gt;<i> java based applications. These packages are used on the professional
+</I>&gt;<i> platform : Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
+</I>
+Last time I remember, people from Jpackage were not happy because RHEL
+people took their rpms and integrated them in Fedora. So I think people
+on RHEL use RH rpm, not the one from jpackage.
+
+&gt;<i> Despite the arguments why Mandriva developers left the jpackage project
+</I>&gt;<i> to build their own java packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Compatibility_with_proprietary_Java_stacks">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Java_Packaging_Policy#Compatibility_with_proprietary_Java_stacks</A>
+</I>
+Well, what is not written there is the java stack of Mandriva was done
+mainly by David Walluck, who is .. a jpackage member. And jpackage was
+also partially founded by Guillaume Rousse, who also left the project
+because they were aiming for too complex and unmaintainable goals.
+
+After David was hired by RH, Alexander Kurtakov stepped to maintain, to
+be also hired by RH. The only Ansii fixed some stuff, mainly because he
+needed to do.
+
+&gt;<i> We are at the beginning of a new rpm based distribution. It would be
+</I>&gt;<i> stupid and suicidal to work on our own java packages and reinvent the
+</I>&gt;<i> wheel again and again.
+</I>
+No, what would be suicidal is to keep the current java packages, done by
+jpackage whose goal do not correspond to ours.
+
+We are using the jpackage rpms, check the specs. So if we do have
+problem in rebuilding the rpms, using more jpackage rpm do not seems
+like a solution, except if the problem is &quot;We have too much free time&quot;.
+
+
+&gt;<i> If we want Mageia becomes a major distribution on
+</I>&gt;<i> java application servers also, we have to consider jpackage as source of
+</I>&gt;<i> java packages. Then we can concentrate our java packagers to improve the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;time to market&quot; of jpackage applications and on desktop application
+</I>&gt;<i> (tuxguitar, sweethome3d, JOSM, homeplayer etc..) and all java
+</I>&gt;<i> application that lack in jpackage and why not try to provide them to
+</I>&gt;<i> jpackage.
+</I>
+Personally, I do not want Mageia to become a major distribution on java
+application servers, I want it to be sustainable. And sustainability as
+clearly demonstrated by previous attempts is quite difficult to achieve
+by using jpackage rpm. So let's start simple, we will have the time to
+grow later.
+
+Java was a weak point on Mandriva, and I think that seeing the problem
+twice is enough to not want to see it a 3rd time.
+
+Their goals differ totally from ours. First, they still aim to be usable
+on more than one platform, which usually mean &quot;be unintegrated on every
+platform&quot;. In practice, they seems to rather be &quot;usable only on RHEL&quot;,
+but well. There would be various technical issues, like keep specs in
+synchronisation, etc, various organizational issues like not being able
+to decide our policy without asking to people outside of our
+organisation, or having to handle out of our svn packages, etc.
+
+So let's already take care of what we have. Once packager have
+demonstrated that the 400 packages will not bitrot alone in the svn,
+then we can start to think importing more IMHO. Pushing more rpm when
+the foundation is not maintained is simply a bad idea, like constructing
+a house on the sand.
+
+&gt;<i> 6) So why don't we consider &quot;jpackage&quot; with the new eye of a new distro
+</I>&gt;<i> and consider it as an external java application repository like we
+</I>&gt;<i> already use &quot;plf&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Why don't we work closer with the jpackage team to improve the urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> connection ?
+</I>
+PLF was mainly done by mandrake linux people aiming to integrate with
+mandrake linux, and quickly shared src.rpm, followed mandriva policies,
+contributed to Mandriva, etc.
+
+Jpackage was made based on the (IMHO flawed) assumption that the only
+issue that prevented packages sharing was &quot;binary compatibility&quot;, and
+that it was solved by jvm. Both affirmation are quite wrong, as there is
+lots of others problem to solve ( like rpm version, various choices made
+by distribution based on their policy ).
+
+So why don't we consider with the new eye of a new distro ? Because we
+are not a new distro, made by people with new eyes, we are experienced
+people ( at least, I consider myself as experienced ), trying to keep
+what worked of a older distro, and changed what didn't.
+
+We already tried syncing with jpackage, either by offering their rpm on
+mandrake mirrors ( circa 2004 ), or by importing them ( circa
+2007/2008 ). It didn't worked as well as you seem to think. And now, if
+it work fine on RHEL, that's mainly because that's tested on RHEL only
+( as almost everybody there is having a @redhat.com email ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>Le 27/01/2011 01:17, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know -dev team doesn't exist yet, but in spite of that: some of us may be
+</I>&gt;<i> needed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yesterday in the packaging meeting[1], misc and Stormi talked about the 3days
+</I>&gt;<i> they went to a Cross-Distro App Installer Meeting[2]. As far as I understood,
+</I>&gt;<i> our involvement in AppStream[3] is 4 part:
+</I>&gt;<i> - mageia-app-db would like to use the metadata to display on the site.
+</I>&gt;<i> - sophie would like some of the metadata too.
+</I>&gt;<i> - mageia could work on making packagekit support work (it does not replace
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm or urpmi in any way, it is cross-distro and just delegates the work to
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi (in our case).)
+</I>&gt;<i> - mageia would then package AppStream in the distro. (Nothing is being said
+</I>&gt;<i> as being used by default: Note that AppStream only does Applications, while
+</I>&gt;<i> eg: rpmdrake installs packages).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since this concerns mostly packaging, it has had a start-discussion in the
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers' meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However:
+</I>&gt;<i> - mageia-app-db (Stormi: PHP) would like some help.
+</I>&gt;<i> - sophie (Nanar: Perl) would like some help.
+</I>&gt;<i> - packagekit support (misc: Perl) would need to be finalized.
+</I>&gt;<i> ( requires intimate knowledge of perl-URPM )
+</I>I can help for packagekit, and sophie, all of perl :)
+&gt;<i> - someone will have to package AppStream eventually.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> afaik shikamaru would help with sophie, so i think that is covered.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So this leaves:
+</I>&gt;<i> - PHP for mageia-app-db
+</I>&gt;<i> - Perl-URPMI related stuff for packagekit support (i might have some time for
+</I>&gt;<i> this, not sure yet)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now then, if there is anyone from -dev team who is inclined to help out,
+</I>&gt;<i> please, tell us :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maarten (aka AL13N)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1]: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#packaging_team">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#packaging_team</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> [2]: <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110126/003418.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20110126/003418.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> [3]: <A HREF="http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream/MetadataNotes">http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream/MetadataNotes</A>
+</I>
+
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+<PRE>Le 27 janv. 2011 14:29, &quot;Buchan Milne&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt; a
+&#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Monday, 24 January 2011 13:37:19 Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; some news regarding perl modules rebuilding...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i'm going my way through the existing modules, rebuilding them in order.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i've already rebuild ~1700 of them - remains 600.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in the meantime, i've blacklisted some of the rebuilds due to missing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; non-perl prereqs, build errors that i don't have the time to investigate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (yet), etc. so it's a perfect opportunity for you to step in and help if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you have some tuits to spare.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; here's the list of blacklist, with respective problem:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perl-Heimdal-Kadm5 miss heimdal-devel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Due to lack of time, I haven't been able to be involved in the packaging
+</I>&gt;<i> meetings up to now. However, now that I have fixed the most pressing
+</I>issues in
+&gt;<i> CatDap, I would like to get some of my Mandriva packages into Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I haven't seen an authoritative indication of what software
+</I>should go
+&gt;<i> into which repository. If there is only to be one 'core' repository, and
+</I>all
+&gt;<i> main+contrib should go there, then I will look at uploading heimdal (and
+</I>&gt;<i> various other packages) there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+here it is
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mirrors_policy&amp;s[">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mirrors_policy&amp;s[</A>]=tainted
+
+&gt;<i> However, that brings up some other questions. Which Kerberos
+</I>implementation
+&gt;<i> are we going to use as the &quot;default&quot; ? Heimdal has some interesting
+</I>features
+&gt;<i> (I think especially of the kcm Kerberos credential manager, allowing
+</I>multiple
+&gt;<i> tickets, and a patch for Openssh to allow specification of which ticket to
+</I>use
+&gt;<i> for which hosts in ~/.ssh/config).
+</I>
+I guess you should make proposals explaining reasons and roadmap
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 27/01/11 00:17 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> - mageia-app-db (Stormi: PHP) would like some help.
+</I>
+I've been a lot busier with work and other real life commitments of late
+, so have not had nearly as much time for Mageia stuff as I'd hoped.
+
+But in principle, I can help out here with the PHP side of things. IIRC
+Stormi is using Zend Framework which I'm very familiar with.
+
+Col
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 27/01/11 00:17 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- mageia-app-db (Stormi: PHP) would like some help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been a lot busier with work and other real life commitments of late
+</I>&gt;<i> , so have not had nearly as much time for Mageia stuff as I'd hoped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But in principle, I can help out here with the PHP side of things. IIRC
+</I>&gt;<i> Stormi is using Zend Framework which I'm very familiar with.
+</I>
+Symphony it seems. I have a look at the code and site project as I was
+willing to help too :)
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+You can find a new version of mgarepo at this URL for 2010.1 (thanks to
+erwan for package rebuild) :
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/2010.1/mgarepo-1.9.7-1mdv2010.2.noarch.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/2010.1/mgarepo-1.9.7-1mdv2010.2.noarch.rpm</A>
+
+If you're using cooker you can rebuild this src.rpm (and I will add it
+if you send me the rebuilt package) :
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/SRPMS/mgarepo-1.9.7-1.mga1.src.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/SRPMS/mgarepo-1.9.7-1.mga1.src.rpm</A>
+
+With this version, the &quot;mgarepo del&quot; command is now working, to remove a
+binary file. To remove an old version of a tarball, you can do this from
+the package directory :
+ $ mgarepo del SOURCES/old-version.tar
+ or
+ $ mgarepo del SOURCES-bin/old-version.tar
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can find a new version of mgarepo at this URL for 2010.1 (thanks to
+</I>&gt;<i> erwan for package rebuild) :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/2010.1/mgarepo-1.9.7-1mdv2010.2.noarch.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/2010.1/mgarepo-1.9.7-1mdv2010.2.noarch.rpm</A>
+</I>
+I think you forgot to run genhdlist2...
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can find a new version of mgarepo at this URL for 2010.1 (thanks to
+</I>&gt;<i> erwan for package rebuild) :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/2010.1/mgarepo-1.9.7-1mdv2010.2.noarch.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/2010.1/mgarepo-1.9.7-1mdv2010.2.noarch.rpm</A>
+</I>
+And cooker version (thanks to ahmad) :
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/cooker/mgarepo-1.9.7-1.mga1.noarch.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/mageiatools/cooker/mgarepo-1.9.7-1.mga1.noarch.rpm</A>
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+&gt;<i> I've been a lot busier with work and other real life commitments of late
+</I>&gt;<i> , so have not had nearly as much time for Mageia stuff as I'd hoped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>same for me - but I could assist you If there are a small tasks to do
+
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+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 27 janvier 2011 01:17:26, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> - mageia would then package AppStream in the distro. (Nothing is being
+</I>&gt;<i> said as being used by default: Note that AppStream only does Applications,
+</I>&gt;<i> while eg: rpmdrake installs packages).
+</I>
+Note that &quot;AppStream&quot; is not the name of a piece of software, but the codename
+for a project that relies on various components (packagekit, OCS, applications
+metadata...). We *may* use the Ubuntu Software Center (which should be using
+packagekit as a back-end instead of apt soon, hopefully), but we could also
+choose to develop our own Software Center or improve existing tools (though it
+would probably require a lot of work).
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So this leaves:
+</I>&gt;<i> - PHP for mageia-app-db
+</I>
+For mageia-app-db, we can use help on various subjects (internationalization
+of the application from a technical point of view, security audit, UI
+design...). However I don't want to &quot;steal&quot; work forces from the rest of the
+Mageia project. There's no urgence right now on mageia-app-db side, I think.
+However, any help is welcome !
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 27 janvier 2011 23:38:36, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 27 janvier 2011 01:17:26, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - mageia would then package AppStream in the distro. (Nothing is being
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; said as being used by default: Note that AppStream only does
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Applications, while eg: rpmdrake installs packages).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that &quot;AppStream&quot; is not the name of a piece of software, but the
+</I>&gt;<i> codename for a project that relies on various components (packagekit, OCS,
+</I>&gt;<i> applications metadata...). We *may* use the Ubuntu Software Center (which
+</I>&gt;<i> should be using packagekit as a back-end instead of apt soon, hopefully),
+</I>&gt;<i> but we could also choose to develop our own Software Center or improve
+</I>&gt;<i> existing tools (though it would probably require a lot of work).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So this leaves:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - PHP for mageia-app-db
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For mageia-app-db, we can use help on various subjects
+</I>&gt;<i> (internationalization of the application from a technical point of view,
+</I>&gt;<i> security audit, UI design...). However I don't want to &quot;steal&quot; work forces
+</I>&gt;<i> from the rest of the Mageia project. There's no urgence right now on
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-app-db side, I think. However, any help is welcome !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I forgot : those interested can always come and discuss on irc on #mageia,
+#mageia-dev or #madb (channel for those working on mageia-app-db).
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel
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