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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+
+<A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
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+Thanks for participating!
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+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+&gt;<i> Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for participating!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+FWIW, I didn't vote because simply I never got the email with the
+epoll password.
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 00:02:56 schreef Anne nicolas:
+&gt;<i> Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for participating!
+</I>
+the voting is clear, but however:
+
+something odd is going on with epoll, and should be looked it, imho:
+
+there's invalid votes, but there's also a valid vote with a non-participant on
+it. (anssi) ?
+
+and sandro is there twice?
+
+perhaps there is still bugs in it? (not that it would change the results....)
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+<PRE>2011/1/7 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 00:02:56 schreef Anne nicolas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for participating!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the voting is clear, but however:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> something odd is going on with epoll, and should be looked it, imho:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> there's invalid votes, but there's also a valid vote with a non-participant on
+</I>&gt;<i> it. (anssi) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and sandro is there twice?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps there is still bugs in it? (not that it would change the results....)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes and it will be corrected as soon as possible.
+
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 00:02:56 schreef Anne nicolas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for participating!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the voting is clear, but however:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> something odd is going on with epoll, and should be looked it, imho:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> there's invalid votes, but there's also a valid vote with a non-participant on
+</I>&gt;<i> it. (anssi) ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and sandro is there twice?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps there is still bugs in it? (not that it would change the results....)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Maybe invalid ballots are when people chose someone from the list of
+voters and not the list of candidates
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 00:38, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 23:55, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 00:02:56 schreef Anne nicolas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for participating!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the voting is clear, but however:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something odd is going on with epoll, and should be looked it, imho:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there's invalid votes, but there's also a valid vote with a non-participant on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it. (anssi) ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and sandro is there twice?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> perhaps there is still bugs in it? (not that it would change the results....)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe invalid ballots are when people chose someone from the list of
+</I>&gt;<i> voters and not the list of candidates
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hmm you are right anssi should not have a vote then
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+<PRE>2011/1/6 Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 7 January 2011 01:02, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for participating!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FWIW, I didn't vote because simply I never got the email with the
+</I>&gt;<i> epoll password.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi everybody, I never got the email with the epoll password.
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+<PRE>Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 &#224; 17:52 +0100, Dexter Morgan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Michael Scherer&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 &#224; 17:05 +0100, Dexter Morgan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After reading the various mails i think we coulddo like this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Product : Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Components:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Documentation
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Installation
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - RPM packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - New Packages requests
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Release Media
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Security
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Translations
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could you explain what kind of bug would go in every category ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For exemple, translation would apply to what kind of bug, same goes for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> documentation ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If we have a separate documentation, wouldn't it be more logical to have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it as a product, with various subcomponent like each manual ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> yes good vision, we could remove documentation then.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For translation, shouldn't it be attached to either a software, a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> website, a document than be separate ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so what do you suggest ? to add Translation as a product ? or to remove it ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i was more thinking of the translation of the softwares here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would remove it, and put it with whatever you call &quot;software&quot;.
+</I>
+As for documentation and translations, a while back I suggested a
+similar separation, but on reflection I think it would be more useful to
+have flags :
+
+1) problem with documentation (and not function)
+These bugs would be best corrected by those with good documentation
+skills, not necessarily the average programmmer.
+
+2) problem with translation (and not function)
+These bugs would be best corrected by technical translators for the
+language in question. Again, not necessarily the average programmer.
+
+One or both could be checked for any particular bug.
+Thus facilitating a search for bugs based on these flags.
+Those wanting to ignore such bugs could equally avoid seeing them.
+
+This would tend to facilitate the correction of such bugs, which tend to
+be lost and not corrected for long periods of time. (At least that is
+the case with Mandriva, and much other free/open source software.)
+(e.g.1: A number of French translations.)
+(e.g.2: Much documentation is essentially useless to the uninitiated.)
+
+However, in my view, documentation and translation bugs would also tend
+to be reported by different people than those who would report function
+bugs.
+So it would be useful if such flags were to appear on this initial page,
+as well on the main bug entry page.
+Something like
+&quot;This bug concerns [ ]documentation ... [ ]translation ...&quot;
+With whatever other factors, such as security, on which we decide to focus.
+With whatever boxes are checked carried over automatically to the main
+bug entry page.
+
+another 2 cents :)
+
+Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 00:38, Pascal Terjan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 23:55, Maarten Vanraes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 00:02:56 schreef Anne nicolas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks for participating!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the voting is clear, but however:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something odd is going on with epoll, and should be looked it, imho:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there's invalid votes, but there's also a valid vote with a non-participant on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it. (anssi) ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and sandro is there twice?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> perhaps there is still bugs in it? (not that it would change the results....)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe invalid ballots are when people chose someone from the list of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> voters and not the list of candidates
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm you are right anssi should not have a vote then
+</I>
+I thought it was rather strange that one could choose from the list of
+voters - not that I did, I just saw the possibility.
+Without that possibility, I don't see how we could have had invalid
+votes. Initially I thought that the check boxes at the top made the
+selection, which would have been better.
+It would be better if votes for a non-winning candidate, and invalid
+votes, were tagged differently. (And not both with &quot;*&quot;.)
+
+Not counting these factors, I really like the layout of the voting and
+results screens. And how we can confirm that our votes were counted as
+we wished.
+
+As for those who couldn't vote because they didn't get the epoll
+password, I would have been there if I hadn't signaled Anne.
+Luckily it wouldn't have changed the results.
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+<PRE>Am Freitag, 7. Januar 2011, um 01:38:39 schrieb Pascal Terjan:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 23:55, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 00:02:56 schreef Anne nicolas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks for participating!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the voting is clear, but however:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; something odd is going on with epoll, and should be looked it, imho:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there's invalid votes, but there's also a valid vote with a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; non-participant on it. (anssi) ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and sandro is there twice?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps there is still bugs in it? (not that it would change the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; results....)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe invalid ballots are when people chose someone from the list of
+</I>&gt;<i> voters and not the list of candidates
+</I>
+The question is, for what reason are these fields? When i voted i was
+questening myself what i should do with them so i left them blank as they
+were. But not everyone does so (as we can see now).
+
+The bigger question i, why is the vote for anssi valid, but for stormi not
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+&gt;<i> 2011/1/6 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, treating all rpm the same, wether we develop it or not is more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> coherent ( no exception on bug that should be reported either upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or not, so easier to decide ), would enhance external reuse and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contribution ( more visibility ), and raise quality ( as we will have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think to more than our use case ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see your point and I agree with you here.
+</I>
+1+ too. Very well explained.
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+open jdk instead of gcj ?
+My experience in packaging is not too good to do that on my own.
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+--
+Mit freundlichen Gr&#252;&#223;en
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for documentation and translations, a while back I suggested a similar separation, but on reflection I think it would be more useful to have flags :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) problem with documentation (and not function)
+</I>&gt;<i> These bugs would be best corrected by those with good documentation skills, not necessarily the average programmmer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) problem with translation (and not function)
+</I>&gt;<i> These bugs would be best corrected by technical translators for the language in question. &#160;Again, not necessarily the average programmer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One or both could be checked for any particular bug.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thus facilitating a search for bugs based on these flags.
+</I>&gt;<i> Those wanting to ignore such bugs could equally avoid seeing them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This would tend to facilitate the correction of such bugs, which tend to be lost and not corrected for long periods of time. &#160;(At least that is the case with Mandriva, and much other free/open source software.)
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g.1: &#160;A number of French translations.)
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g.2: &#160;Much documentation is essentially useless to the uninitiated.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, in my view, documentation and translation bugs would also tend to be reported by different people than those who would report function bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> So it would be useful if such flags were to appear on this initial page, as well on the main bug entry page.
+</I>&gt;<i> Something like
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;This bug concerns [ ]documentation ... [ ]translation ...&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> With whatever other factors, such as security, on which we decide to focus.
+</I>&gt;<i> With whatever boxes are checked carried over automatically to the main bug entry page.
+</I>
+
+I am working on a script intended to make it easyer to report bugs usefully.
+
+Technically, would these flags be new fields,
+or standardized entries in the Keywords field,
+such as NEEDINFO in the present Mandriva bugzilla ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> another 2 cents :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 06:19, andre999&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As for documentation and translations, a while back I suggested a similar separation, but on reflection I think it would be more useful to have flags :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) problem with documentation (and not function)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> These bugs would be best corrected by those with good documentation skills, not necessarily the average programmmer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) problem with translation (and not function)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> These bugs would be best corrected by technical translators for the language in question. Again, not necessarily the average programmer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One or both could be checked for any particular bug.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thus facilitating a search for bugs based on these flags.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Those wanting to ignore such bugs could equally avoid seeing them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This would tend to facilitate the correction of such bugs, which tend to be lost and not corrected for long periods of time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (At least that is the case with Mandriva, and much other free/open source software.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (e.g.1: A number of French translations.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (e.g.2: Much documentation is essentially useless to the uninitiated.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, in my view, documentation and translation bugs would also tend to be reported by different people than those who would report function bugs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So it would be useful if such flags were to appear on this initial page, as well on the main bug entry page.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;This bug concerns [ ]documentation ... [ ]translation ...&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With whatever other factors, such as security, on which we decide to focus.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With whatever boxes are checked carried over automatically to the main bug entry page.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am working on a script intended to make it easyer to report bugs usefully.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Technically, would these flags be new fields,
+</I>&gt;<i> or standardized entries in the Keywords field,
+</I>&gt;<i> such as NEEDINFO in the present Mandriva bugzilla ?
+</I>
+Just verified with bugzilla to make sure.
+
+Documentation and translations are listed as options under &quot;components&quot;.
+However any such bug could also be associated with another component,
+such as &quot;core packages&quot; or &quot;release media&quot;.
+We could even have translation bugs of documentation.
+
+So it would seem better if these were independant flags, instead of options.
+It that case they would be new fields.
+
+As for security, there are already 2 such flags, at the bottom of the
+main bug entry page. (Under the title &quot;privacy&quot;.)
+Checking either of these flags will cause a bug to be hidden from most
+users, as explained beside the check boxes.
+(For this reason, it would be better to _not_ duplicate these particular
+flags elsewhere.)
+
+see <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mandriva">https://qa.mandriva.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mandriva</A>
+Linux&amp;format=guided
+
+Good luck with your script :)
+
+Andr&#233;
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+</I>&gt;<i> Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 &#224; 18:43 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/1/6 Michael Scherer&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And for the rest, well, the bug be it in documentation, translation, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> code must follow the same lifecycle, and imho, should be grouper
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> logically and we should not duplicate information everywhere, with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> information being &quot;version of the product/components&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How would you group a translation error in the documentation of rpmdrake?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How would you group a documentation error in teh documentation of rpmdrake
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How would you group a translation error in rpmdrake?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The question before &quot;how&quot; is &quot;why&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why would you want to group all documentation error together ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Grouping by &quot;product&quot; ( not in the bugzilla meaning ) is IMHO required
+</I>&gt;<i> to avoid duplication of version, to be able to see what bugs affect a
+</I>&gt;<i> precise version of a software, be it a documentation bug, translation
+</I>&gt;<i> bug and so on, and so decide if a software is ready for release.
+</I>
+Good point.
+Mandriva bugzilla currently includes documentation and translations as
+options in the &quot;components&quot; field.
+It would be much better to have them as flags, independant of
+components, as each could apply to other components.
+(We even have translations of documentation.)
+This would facilitate searches for those who wish to identify (and
+correct) documentation or translation errors, and help ensure that such
+bugs are identified as such. (Instead of being identified by the actuel
+component.)
+Thus adding documentation and translation flags, and removing them as
+options of components.
+
+And, as you suggest, keep grouping by the product, instead of the type
+of bug.
+
+my 2 cents :)
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+ <B>Frederic Janssens</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 17:49, andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Frederic Janssens a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 06:19, andre999&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>&gt; &#160;wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As for documentation and translations, a while back I suggested a similar separation, but on reflection I think it would be more useful to have flags :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) problem with documentation (and not function)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> These bugs would be best corrected by those with good documentation skills, not necessarily the average programmmer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2) problem with translation (and not function)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> These bugs would be best corrected by technical translators for the language in question. &#160;Again, not necessarily the average programmer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am working on a script intended to make it easyer to report bugs usefully.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Technically, would these flags be new fields,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or standardized entries in the Keywords field,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such as NEEDINFO in the present Mandriva bugzilla ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just verified with bugzilla to make sure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Documentation and translations are listed as options under &quot;components&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> However any such bug could also be associated with another component, such as &quot;core packages&quot; or &quot;release media&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> We could even have translation bugs of documentation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So it would seem better if these were independant flags, instead of options.
+</I>&gt;<i> It that case they would be new fields.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for security, there are already 2 such flags, at the bottom of the main bug entry page. &#160;(Under the title &quot;privacy&quot;.)
+</I>&gt;<i> Checking either of these flags will cause a bug to be hidden from most users, as explained beside the check boxes.
+</I>&gt;<i> (For this reason, it would be better to _not_ duplicate these particular flags elsewhere.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> see <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mandriva">https://qa.mandriva.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Mandriva</A> Linux&amp;format=guided
+</I>
+The potential problem with new fields, which would be better,
+would be to make shure that they are accessible with&#160;the xmlrpc interface,
+that I use for my script.
+
+The inbuilt Keywords field, which does not appear on the Mandriva
+'guided' input page,
+but does appear on the 'expert' input page, is accessible with the
+xmlrpc interface.
+
+The xmlrpc interface does not seem to automatically have access to all fields.
+But it is difficult to be shure : the xmlrpc interface of Mandriva
+bugzilla does not work;
+and the Mageia bugzilla only has the default fields at present.
+I think I will have to create a local bugzilla to test that.
+
+&gt;<i> Good luck with your script :)
+</I>
+Thanks
+
+&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
+</I>--
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+Frederic
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Ok, the point of this discussion is to know what we put as:
+ - Products
+ - Components
+
+This can be updated later (as in: adding/renaming
+products/components). So we should just aim at the smallest acceptable
+set, so that we can open our Bugzilla instance, see what it shows,
+update and open it for actual usage.
+
+So trying to summarize above discussion, I suggest as products:
+
+ * Mageia with components:
+ - installation
+ - software
+ - new software request
+ - release (media, process)
+ - (for versions, cauldron first, we'll see later for the rest)
+
+ * Websites with components:
+ - www
+ - forum
+ - blog
+ - wiki
+ - maint-db
+ - (for versions, live/dev does not make much sense here; so maybe
+just numbering, maybe just no version for a start; depends on the
+release process)
+
+ * Infrastructure
+ - ? (misc?)
+
+If that's ok (or if we can make it smaller so that it's working), we
+can move forward and set this up finally (modulo the rpm field setup,
+but that's not blocking for once).
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> &#160;* Mageia with components:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - installation
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - software
+</I>
++ RPM package
+
+&gt;<i> &#160; - new software request
+</I>
+replace with new RPM package request
+
+&gt;<i> &#160; - release (media, process)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; - (for versions, cauldron first, we'll see later for the rest)
+</I>
+And or maybe have the &quot;software&quot; component brought up as a separate
+Product, actually (would make even more sense), with the list of
+actual software involved.
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+Romain
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+ <B>Remy CLOUARD</B>
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+First of all, thanks for the reviews !
+Huge kudos to Daniel who reviewed most of them.
+
+But, as you may probably know, the mentoring process will begin pretty
+soon.
+
+That&#8217;s why we need to review the remaining policies in the following
+days.
+
+Here is a page listing all policies and their current status:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=policies-review">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=policies-review</A>
+
+We need help from experienced packagers to achieve that, some policies
+need proofreading, other have to be started.
+
+To start with, I&#8217;ll do my part on the ruby packaging policy. This policy
+is still a draft, and I will send a mail to both mandriva-cooker and
+mageia-dev.
+
+Now, let&#8217;s take
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#main_packages_by_category">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#main_packages_by_category</A>
+as a base to assign the review to people.
+
+I know tmb is quite busy with setting up the basesystem, so I wonder if
+he could review the kernel policies, perhaps Anssi can take the DKMS
+part ?
+
+It would be nice if perl gurus review the perl packaging policies
+(jq, guillomovitch, nanar)
+
+The python policy is a bit of a draft too, but it would be nice if it
+could be completed so that it is included (misc, philippeM)
+
+As for the other languages, haskell and ocaml policies are quite
+complete and could be included, but at the moment we also need people
+volunteering to maintain these packages (as far as I&#8217;m concerned, my
+only haskell package is xmonad, and I will be quite busy with ruby
+modules.
+
+I guess many people would be able to review the other policies.
+
+I would be glad if we could have policies reviewed quite quickly.
+
+Thanks in advance,
+
+Regards,
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+<PRE>Hello there,
+
+It&#8217;s been quite some time since I started working on ruby modules, and
+I&#8217;ve been working on the policy too.
+
+You can find the page here:
+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Ruby">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Ruby</A>
+
+Now, there are some things that still need to be clarified.
+
+The most controversial part is the naming convention.
+
+Many ruby modules are packaged via gem, and fedora introduced a strange
+naming convention, calling their package rubygem-%{gemname}. This
+convention was soon followed by other rpm-based distro such as opensuse
+and momonga, and we also have some of them.
+
+I&#8217;m not against changing that convention, but this raises also other
+questions.
+1) Do we also need to change the provides/requires ? ie
+Requires: ruby(%{gemname})
+instead of
+Requires: rubygem(%{gemname})
+2) is there a way to make youri watch for rubygem-%{gemname} in case we
+opt for that change ? Or better, can youri watch for %{gemname} on
+rubygems.org ?
+
+Is it ok to add development dependencies as Suggests ? Shall we do a
+-devel subpackage that will pull these dependencies. The advantage of
+doing this is that automated installs will not add these dependencies
+where they aren&#8217;t needed, but this will cause spec files to be more
+complicated to maintain (unless we add proper support for this in
+gem2rpm)
+
+About files:
+shall we keep the gem in the cache directory ? I&#8217;m not sure this is
+really useful, up till now I added it, but it makes the package a bit
+bigger
+
+Shall we do a -doc subpackage for big packages ? I think it may be
+interesting for package that have a lot of documentation and that are
+part of an ecosystem (ie, gems required for other packages like
+gitorious)
+
+Normally %gem_* macros should take care of that, but we might have to
+make it evolve.
+
+Do you see something I haven&#8217;t thought of ?
+
+I will provide an example spec in this policy in the following days, and
+will take care of making the necessary changes to the existing packages
+once we agree with the above points.
+
+Thanks in advance,
+
+Best regards,
+--
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+<PRE>Am Freitag, 7. Januar 2011, um 01:38:39 schrieb Pascal Terjan:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 23:55, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 07 januari 2011 00:02:56 schreef Anne nicolas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Here are finally the results and detail of this vote
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT">https://epoll.mageia.org/vote/ISJTLYRT</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks for participating!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the voting is clear, but however:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; something odd is going on with epoll, and should be looked it, imho:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there's invalid votes, but there's also a valid vote with a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; non-participant on it. (anssi) ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and sandro is there twice?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps there is still bugs in it? (not that it would change the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; results....)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe invalid ballots are when people chose someone from the list of
+</I>&gt;<i> voters and not the list of candidates
+</I>
+The question is, for what reason are these fields? When i voted i was
+questening myself what i should do with them so i left them blank as they
+were. But not everyone does so (as we can see now).
+
+The bigger question i, why is the vote for anssi valid, but for stormi not
+(line 7)?
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+<I>Pascal Terjan
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+<I>Maarten Vanraes
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+<I>Anne nicolas
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+<I>Ahmad Samir
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+<I>Anne nicolas
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+<I>C&#233;sar Vargas - VaC|0
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+<I>andre999
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+<I>andre999
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+<I>Daniel Kreuter
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+<I>Pascal Terjan
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+<LI><A HREF="001994.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
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+<I>C&#233;sar Vargas - VaC|0
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="001996.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
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+<I>andre999
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="002047.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
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+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="001997.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="002006.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
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+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
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+<I>andre999
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+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002000.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002001.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002002.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002003.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002004.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002005.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Jan 7 23:45:00 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 10 02:39:12 CET 2011</i>
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+ <h1>7 January 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Jan 7 00:02:56 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Jan 7 23:45:00 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 21<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01294354976- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001988.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01294354976-01294355679- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001989.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294354976-01294355679-01294373385- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001994.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;sar Vargas - VaC|0
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01294354976-01294358104- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001990.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294354976-01294358104-01294359384- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001991.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01294354976-01294358104-01294360719- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001992.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01294354976-01294358104-01294360719-01294360751- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001993.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294354976-01294358104-01294360719-01294360751-01294379874- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001996.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294354976-01294358104-01294360719-01294380001- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002047.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="2047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294354976-01294358104-01294360719-01294380059- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001997.html">[Mageia-dev] Choosing packagers representatives
+</A><A NAME="1997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01294377599- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001995.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="1995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01294377599-01294408140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002000.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294377599-01294408140-01294418951- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002001.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01294377599-01294408140-01294418951-01294422086- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002003.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederic Janssens
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294377599-01294408140-01294418951-01294422086-01294423460- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002004.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294377599-01294408140-01294418951-01294422086-01294423460-01294424360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002005.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01294384137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001998.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="1998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294394153- -->
+<LI><A HREF="001999.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding Java-Policy
+</A><A NAME="1999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Kreuter
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294420309- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002002.html">[Mageia-dev] New bugzilla proposal
+</A><A NAME="2002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294438229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002006.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia policies
+</A><A NAME="2006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294440300- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002007.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Ruby packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="2007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Jan 7 23:45:00 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 10 02:39:12 CET 2011</i>
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