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This time with /var. For two systems i have +</I>><i> created /var as a separate volume on LVM. And systemd can't start /var. +</I>><i> It's complaining that some deps failed. So long i only noticed different +</I>><i> types of loggers that won't start. Also complaining about failed deps. +</I>><i> So is there a loop? Loggers won't start as they want to log on /var and +</I>><i> /var can't be mounted as it needs some logger to log it?! I'll try to +</I>><i> test it more on VM but so long it seems that separated /var is causing +</I>><i> boot problems :S (one system didn't start at all (and has weird +</I>><i> repeating errors: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4210594/IMG_20110911_230902.jpg">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4210594/IMG_20110911_230902.jpg</A> ) so i have to +</I>><i> revert back to sysvinit). +</I> +OK, so unless you use rsyslog, I think there could easily be a logging loop. + +I packaged the latest rsyslog with all the systemd goodness a couple +weeks back so it should be cool now. + +You should definitely mount /var before starting your logger, (systemd +will happily pass over any accumulated log output to the actual logger +when it starts - well not quite systemd, passing it over, but it happens +magically anyway!) + +So the question is "Why isn't /var mounted early enough?". + +I'm not really in a position to think about why this is right now, but +suffice to say, the auto mounter in systemd should really automatically +mount /var as soon as it's needed, so perhaps the logger is somehow +starting before the automounter? + + +If you do: "man systemd.special" and look for info about +local-fs.target, it contains some interesting info about how /etc/fstab +is processed. + +Primarily it needs the "auto" keyword in the options. Perhaps if you add +"auto" to the mount options (should be harmless for non-systemd) then +things will work fine? + +Worth a shot. + +Col + + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007992.html">[Mageia-dev] more testing for systemd: defaulting to it +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007873.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7996">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7996">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7996">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7996">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |