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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] systemd + separate /var (was Re: more testing for systemd: defaulting to it)</H1>
    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Sander Lepik at 12/09/11 07:22 did gyre and gimble:
&gt;<i> 08.09.2011 16:53, Thierry Vignaud kirjutas:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In order to got more testing for systemd, I'm considering switching
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the installer to:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - install it
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - default to it (aka add &quot;init=/bin/systemd&quot;)
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WDYT?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See you
</I>&gt;<i> I got another problem. This time with /var. For two systems i have
</I>&gt;<i> created /var as a separate volume on LVM. And systemd can't start /var.
</I>&gt;<i> It's complaining that some deps failed. So long i only noticed different
</I>&gt;<i> types of loggers that won't start. Also complaining about failed deps.
</I>&gt;<i> So is there a loop? Loggers won't start as they want to log on /var and
</I>&gt;<i> /var can't be mounted as it needs some logger to log it?! I'll try to
</I>&gt;<i> test it more on VM but so long it seems that separated /var is causing
</I>&gt;<i> boot problems :S (one system didn't start at all (and has weird
</I>&gt;<i> repeating errors:
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4210594/IMG_20110911_230902.jpg">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4210594/IMG_20110911_230902.jpg</A> ) so i have to
</I>&gt;<i> revert back to sysvinit).
</I>
OK, so unless you use rsyslog, I think there could easily be a logging loop.

I packaged the latest rsyslog with all the systemd goodness a couple
weeks back so it should be cool now.

You should definitely mount /var before starting your logger, (systemd
will happily pass over any accumulated log output to the actual logger
when it starts - well not quite systemd, passing it over, but it happens
magically anyway!)

So the question is &quot;Why isn't /var mounted early enough?&quot;.

I'm not really in a position to think about why this is right now, but
suffice to say, the auto mounter in systemd should really automatically
mount /var as soon as it's needed, so perhaps the logger is somehow
starting before the automounter?


If you do: &quot;man systemd.special&quot;  and look for info about
local-fs.target, it contains some interesting info about how /etc/fstab
is processed.

Primarily it needs the &quot;auto&quot; keyword in the options. Perhaps if you add
&quot;auto&quot; to the mount options (should be harmless for non-systemd) then
things will work fine?

Worth a shot.

Col




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