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November 2011, 15:10:01 schrieb Florian Hubold: +</I>><i> > Am 28.11.2011 14:55, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: +</I>><i> > > I'm more and more concerned about this whole attitude: "you guys should +</I>><i> > > make my own life easier, because other already do it". That's just +</I>><i> > > plain consumerism. +</I>><i> > Uhmm, converse argument would that you want to make your life +</I>><i> > (and also that of other distribution users) harder because you don't +</I>><i> > want to be that consumer-like? Doesn't sound that reasonable to me, +</I>><i> > and please remember, it's not always plain black vs. white decisions. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I can live without a get-teamviewer package, but just because of the facts +</I>><i> > that i'm able to install/troubleshoot it without help, because i know +</I>><i> > the tools to do this (rpm/urpmi) and doing that for a long time. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > In the end the question should be: Do we want to make the distribution +</I>><i> > just for ourselves, just for the sake of having "our own" linux distro, +</I>><i> > or do we want also some other people to use it, who aren't IT +</I>><i> > specialists, programmers or rocket scientists? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't agree. I do think our main goal should be to provide a good linux +</I>><i> distro with as few proprietary packages as possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ok, if it is about drivers, there's not a real choice, so I do advocate +</I>><i> providing the nvidia/amd drivers for the graphics cards, the partly +</I>><i> proprietary drivers for some network cards (especially wlan). +</I>><i> This is a question of usability of the distro. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I don't like us providing more and more nonfree applications. +</I>><i> It really is not that difficult to install things like flash, skype, teamviewer +</I>><i> and so on. +</I>><i> In my eyes it would be the far better solution to provide documentation on how +</I>><i> to install them then provide a lot of those "get-foo" packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Although "easy usability" is a good thing, people should remember they are +</I>><i> working on the most complex machine they do have in their homes. +</I>><i> While nobody expects to be able to use a modern video recorder without reading +</I>><i> the manual first, everybody expects to be able to use a far more complex +</I>><i> machine like a computer without reading anyting? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't like to support that view, so why not tell people: +</I>><i> "We are an OpenSource project and our goal is to support OpenSource software. +</I>><i> Now it is possible to install your precious applications, just look at this +</I>><i> wiki page and you will be able to do it without a problem, but be aware, that +</I>><i> is proprietary software and it would be better to find OpenSource +</I>><i> alternatives." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I> +++1 + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009900.html">[Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . . +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009906.html">[Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . . +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9904">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9904">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9904">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9904">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |