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If somebody wants help me on mentoring +process I'll be very glad! + +Thanks. + +On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:00 AM, <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev-request at mageia.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> Send Mageia-dev mailing list submissions to +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</A> +</I>><i> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev-request at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can reach the person managing the list at +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev-owner at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific +</I>><i> than "Re: Contents of Mageia-dev digest..." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Today's Topics: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release +</I>><i> perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2 (D.Morgan) +</I>><i> 2. Re: Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing +</I>><i> (Johnny A. Solbu) +</I>><i> 3. Re: Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing (andre999) +</I>><i> 4. mentors + apprentices (andre999) +</I>><i> 5. i18n corrections in drak tools (Oliver Burger) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Message: 1 +</I>><i> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:40:07 +0100 +</I>><i> From: "D.Morgan" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia development mailing-list <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release +</I>><i> perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2 +</I>><i> Message-ID: +</I>><i> <CAL+dqvDutg406MXZVTzaAsyYeO2JXQpbprQHjrpx9CXp=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">vbRmw at mail.gmail.com</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Thierry Vignaud +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > On 27 October 2011 17:11, Mageia Team <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> wrote: +</I>><i> >> takashi <takashi> 0.714.0-1.mga2: +</I>><i> >> + Revision: 158214 +</I>><i> >> - update to 0.714 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > A requested package cannot be installed: +</I>><i> > perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2.noarch (due to unsatisfied +</I>><i> > perl(SOAP::Transport::FTP)[>= 0.712.0]) +</I>><i> > Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> still broken. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The main issue is that i don't see perl(SOAP::Transport::FTP)[>= +</I>><i> 0.712.0]) see : <A HREF="http://search.cpan.org/dist/SOAP-Transport-FTP/">http://search.cpan.org/dist/SOAP-Transport-FTP/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------------------------------ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Message: 2 +</I>><i> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 03:49:02 +0100 +</I>><i> From: "Johnny A. Solbu" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>> +</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in +</I>><i> updates_testing +</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201111020349.05223.cooker at solbu.net</A>> +</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote: +</I>><i> > No offense intended +</I>><i> +</I>><i> None detected. ;-)= +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > but you don't see a slight advantage of not having +</I>><i> > to mount a separate partition, and of sharing the space available on the +</I>><i> > otherwise 2 separate partitions, particularly if the disk space is +</I>><i> > somewhat limited ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If the diskspace is limited, there often is no available space to host a +</I>><i> separate /usr. +</I>><i> The old drive in my gateway was a 4G drive. There was One partition. ;-)= +</I>><i> I do see the need to have all in one partition in many cases. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But there is a diffenrece in having a need and require it. :-)= +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of +</I>><i> > separate partitions is _not_ precluded ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be +</I>><i> mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount +</I>><i> it. +</I>><i> I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > However if one has / and /usr on the same partition, combining /bin, +</I>><i> > /sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin would certainly be a lot simpler than it +</I>><i> > is now. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes. I see that, and I see that it can be agood idea to merge /*bin with +</I>><i> /usr/*bin +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > I never could understand why the complication of separate /bin and /sbin, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I still feel that the daemon's executeable's belongs in sbin rather than +</I>><i> bin. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with +</I>><i> > the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I haven't noticed that. do you have an example? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)= +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Johnny A. Solbu +</I>><i> PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 +</I>><i> -------------- next part -------------- +</I>><i> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +</I>><i> Name: not available +</I>><i> Type: application/pgp-signature +</I>><i> Size: 189 bytes +</I>><i> Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. +</I>><i> URL: +</I>><i> </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20111102/60ae76e7/attachment-0001.asc> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------------------------------ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Message: 3 +</I>><i> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:47:21 -0400 +</I>><i> From: andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia development mailing-list <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in +</I>><i> updates_testing +</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4EB0E779.5020101 at laposte.net</A>> +</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Johnny A. Solbu a ?crit : +</I>><i> > On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> >> Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of +</I>><i> >> separate partitions is _not_ precluded ? +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> > Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be +</I>><i> mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount +</I>><i> it. +</I>><i> > I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think it is better to mount any separate /usr as early in the boot +</I>><i> process as possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> >> and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with +</I>><i> >> the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> > I haven't noticed that. do you have an example? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> See the attached file of duplications of names on my computer. +</I>><i> There are 76 duplications in the 4 directories. +</I>><i> Those ending in @ are symbolic links. Such duplications will disappear +</I>><i> with the merging. +</I>><i> The others are mostly (if not all) scripts which link to a routine which +</I>><i> asks for the root password for certain commands, according to enabled +</I>><i> permissions. If the permissions are enabled and the password correctly +</I>><i> entered, the user is rerouted to the initial command. A less obscure +</I>><i> way of dealing with it would be better. +</I>><i> (I forget the details, but someone like tv or misc would know.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> >> To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> > Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)= +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If just changing initramfs to load any separate /usr partition will fix +</I>><i> it, I don't see that we are losing anything. +</I>><i> Although if someone like tmb can initially misunderstand the impact, I +</I>><i> guess anyone can. (It took me a while.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe it will be more trouble to make such an initramfs, but once it is +</I>><i> made, it should work nicely. Without a special reason to have a +</I>><i> separate /usr, I would say that it is better to avoid it. +</I>><i> I see that ensuring that everything necessary to fully boot being +</I>><i> guaranteed to be available very early in the boot process is a big plus. +</I>><i> If /home isn't available, one can always login to root. As well, +</I>><i> keeping /home on a separate partition has advantages for ensuring the +</I>><i> persistance of personal data and configuration in the event of +</I>><i> reformatting /. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Andr? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -------------- next part -------------- +</I>><i> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... +</I>><i> Name: bin_dup.txt +</I>><i> URL: +</I>><i> </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20111102/0f52d042/attachment-0001.txt> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------------------------------ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Message: 4 +</I>><i> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 03:54:38 -0400 +</I>><i> From: andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>> +</I>><i> To: Mageia development mailing-list <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices +</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4EB0F73E.9060108 at laposte.net</A>> +</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi everyone, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We have a new packager, takashi, who has successfully mentored with +</I>><i> jquelin. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We now have 2 apprentice candidates with .rpm packaging experience, +</I>><i> waiting for +</I>><i> a mentor. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mcb30 (Michael Brown), who I introduced last week, +</I>><i> is a longtime Mandrake/Mandriva and now Mageia user who has maintained +</I>><i> several +</I>><i> private RPM repos, and while waiting for a mentor has been making spec +</I>><i> files +</I>><i> for some python applications. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We also have +</I>><i> neocrust (Alexander Scherbakov), +</I>><i> who has experience maintaining packages for openSuse and Lunar Linux, as +</I>><i> well +</I>><i> as translating to Russion, and doing documentation with the Gentoo Russion +</I>><i> team. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can find more details at: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mentors, let me know who you take on, and I'll update the tables for you. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We now have 49 active packagers (maintaining at least one package), with +</I>><i> several who have yet to take a package. +</I>><i> We currently have about 40 apprentices. +</I>><i> Over 75% of packages have a maintainer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Anyone else looking for a mentor, let me know so I can add your name as an +</I>><i> apprentice candidate -- or you can do it yourself. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> See also the section just above, on becoming a Mageia packager : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#becoming_a_mageia_packager">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#becoming_a_mageia_packager</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To find a mentor, you can also post to this list, or on IRC at freenode +</I>><i> #mageia-mentoring. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Andr? +</I>><i> (Packager mentoring program coordinator) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------------------------------ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Message: 5 +</I>><i> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:45:10 +0100 +</I>><i> From: Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> +</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-dev] i18n corrections in drak tools +</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201111020945.10325.oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> +</I>><i> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi there, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'd like to get all corrections made by i18n teams since the Mga1 release +</I>><i> into +</I>><i> the distribution. Imho that is important because not all teams managed to +</I>><i> finish their translation work for the Mga1 freeze, and we were told at that +</I>><i> time, that we would be able to get our work into Mga1 via an update later +</I>><i> on +</I>><i> and thus I told the teams to set a priority on the translation of the +</I>><i> installer po files, which couldn't be updated later. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As I mentioned in <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1784">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1784</A> I would +</I>><i> propose +</I>><i> a "i18n bug hunting day". We could do a blog post calling people to +</I>><i> actively +</I>><i> look for translation errors and file bug reports about them. I18n teams +</I>><i> could +</I>><i> then fix as many of those as possible and commit the corrections to the "1" +</I>><i> branch of the drak tools svn (and also to cauldron if they are still +</I>><i> present +</I>><i> there). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What do you think? +</I>><i> Let's say "i18n bug hunting day" somewhen in the middle of next week and an +</I>><i> update of the drak tools for Mga1 arround december 1st? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> End of Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 15, Issue 5 +</I>><i> ***************************************** +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Marco Antonio Benatto +Linux user ID: #506236 +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20111102/b65104a0/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009318.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE SC 4.7.3 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009299.html">[Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9296">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9296">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9296">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9296">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |