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And if we ship something +</I>><i> > > in update and in backports, we would have the same packages with 2 +</I>><i> > > different releases, and that doesn't seems a good idea. +</I>><i> >  +</I>><i> > Worse, the backport would be preferred to the update :/ +</I>><i> >  +</I>><i> > You should have said all this right from the start rather than assuming +</I>><i> > that we would have all these elements in mind :) +</I>><i> >  +</I>><i> > Samuel +</I>><i>  +</I>><i> I suggest we add this point to tonight's meeting topics and that a decision +</I>><i> be taken then. +</I>><i>  +</I>><i> Then we would adapt the updates policy and the current packages in +</I>><i> updates_testing if the 0 release in updates is abandoned. We must also +</I>><i> decide if we continue to use subrels or not (using them could avoid +</I>><i> unneeded rebuilds in cauldron when there are packaging bugs in updates). +</I>><i>  +</I>><i> Best regards +</I>><i>  +</I>><i> Samuel +</I> +Ok, there will be no meeting tonight, so let's decide it on the ML. Was  +everyone convinced by misc's demonstration and do we agree to stop using the 0  +release for updates and activate the Youri::Submit::Test::Precedence check on  +submit to prevent higher releases in mageia n than in mageia n+1 ?  + +And if yes do we use subrels for subsequent modifications of packages that are  +proper to the mageia 1 branch ? + +I vote yes for both questions. + +Samuel +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> +    <HR> +    <P><UL> +        <!--threads--> +	<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007056.html">[Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release +</A></li> +	<LI>Next message: <A HREF="007073.html">[Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release +</A></li> +         <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>  +              <a href="date.html#7072">[ date ]</a> +              <a href="thread.html#7072">[ thread ]</a> +              <a href="subject.html#7072">[ subject ]</a> +              <a href="author.html#7072">[ author ]</a> +         </LI> +       </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> | 
