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Back to 2.6.38, +everything is smooth again. + +Experimenting with various packages and their breakages is one thing, but the Linux +kernel is my personal enemy, I hate the too many changes between one release and  + +the next one, it's practically impossible to design & run any relevant regression tests.  + +If I were in charge with any distro's policy, I would be particularly conservative +when comes to the kernel (e.g. slackware-current is still on 2.6.38.7) + +><i>There is no forcing... +</I>><i>the old kernel is still installed so you can use it if you need. +</I> +><i> +</I>><i>And if you dont like automatic kernel upgrades, uninstall kernel-*-latest +</I> + +I did so, but w/o kernel-*-latest I suppose I won't get any kernel update at all?! +This is not what I intended... + + +><i>its always good to know my work is appreciated... +</I> + +Your work in patching and packing and so on is one thing, and the policy of +when the kernel goes and where it goes and what kind of kernel-*-latest  + +metapackages exist is a different thing. I still believe that, even in cauldron, +there should be 2 distinct kernel "branches", not a unique kernel-*-latest path. +(Maybe I'm influenced by the conservative way Slackware is approaching the kernels.) +(Or maybe I'm just getting old.) + +R-C aka beranger + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> +    <HR> +    <P><UL> +        <!--threads--> +	<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006825.html">[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron +</A></li> +	<LI>Next message: <A HREF="006838.html">[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron +</A></li> +         <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>  +              <a href="date.html#6829">[ date ]</a> +              <a href="thread.html#6829">[ thread ]</a> +              <a href="subject.html#6829">[ subject ]</a> +              <a href="author.html#6829">[ author ]</a> +         </LI> +       </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> | 
