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Being still beta, I would say +</I>><i> it is not for now. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Some of us may have forgot, but they did withdraw the 64 bits +</I>><i> version plugin in the past with any communication, because it was +</I>><i> insecure and unsupported, and already a beta version. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We can also agree that taking the same policy regarding +</I>><i> backporting than at Mandriva will just yield the same result, ie +</I>><i> saying "it is not supported, so use it at your own risk". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And so, if we want to send the message "backports are supported", +</I>><i> we should just act accordingly, and not send unsupported +</I>><i> softwares to it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The plugin may work fine now on the machine of everybody, it +</I>><i> would still be unsupported by adobe. +</I>><i> +</I> +If we want to send the message “backports are supported”, all we +are actually able to guarantee is that they will be supported *by +Mageia*. And this applies to ALL packages which originate from third +parties, not just backports. + +We cannot guarantee that ANY package which is produced outside +Mageia will continue to receive upstream support. Although it seems +unlikely, it is entirely possible that any third party (Mozilla, +KDE, Gnome, Adobe etc.) could close down before the EOL of the +Mageia version in which the third party package is included. + +So, if someone *from Mageia* is prepared to support 64-bit Flash 11 +- including providing simple instructions for uninstalling it if it +proves to cause problems or is a security risk - then I can see no +reason why it should not be provided as a "supported" backport. + +-- +Margot +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +**Otford Ducks Computers** +We teach, you learn... +...and, if you don't do your homework, we set the cat on you! +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006723.html">[Mageia-dev] Adobe Flash player 11 Beta 1 in Cauldron +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006833.html">[Mageia-dev] Adobe Flash player 11 Beta 1 in Cauldron +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6819">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6819">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6819">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6819">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |