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As well as +breaking a leg for example, and breaking habits. And let us not forget that +it is completely and if I might say, even oppository - to breaking a home +run (all via <A HREF="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/break">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/break</A>)! + + +><i> And no, I won't investigate anything, I'll not file any report on what it's +</I>><i> not working with this kernel and my hardware. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yep, I have already realized this, but thanks to confirming nonetheless :). + + +><i> Regressions in kernels are the thing I hate the most in this world. +</I> + +Yes, this is certainly one of the cruelest and merciless things in the +world, I must agree.. :( + + +><i> I've experienced kernel regressions in the past every 6 months with each +</I>><i> and every Ubuntu release -- and those were kernels supposed to be tested +</I>><i> well-enough. +</I>><i> +</I> +Apparently they weren't. Let me apologize on behalf of Ubuntu developers and +Linus Torvalds himself for not being proactive enough to make kernels work +on your hardware, I believe that they will be really ashamed of themselves +at the moment they'll read this. Sorry :(. + + +><i> What I like in Linux is never the kernel. +</I> + +This seems to be apparently contradictory to some other phrases, but I have +to agree - I like never kernel, for example, the 3.0 seems to be great (for +me!) + + +><i> Never ever. +</I> + +World is soooo busy those days... + + +><i> It's monolithic, impossible to be properly tested, and managed by a stupid +</I>><i> fat arrogant guy called Linus. +</I> + +Yep, I agree, he will be even more ashamed of himself after reading this... +:<i>( +</I> +The only kernels I loved were 1.2.13 and1.3.18. + + +2.2.16 was pretty cool, and 2.4.1 with reiserfs was nice too, but yes, those +new shiny trending things - even being a bit cool - are still among the most +hated things, this is so very true :(. I have to confess that they must +learn a thing or two from DOS - almost 30 years without a remote hole in +default install, and working as stable and fast as possible since their +first release! + + +><i> After that, the kernel was just a nuisance -- like the government, the +</I>><i> taxes, the Microsoft tax, etc. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yep, I agree with you, the governments, taxes, Microsoft and its tax are +almost as bad as kernel regressions (mentioned above), but they are still +are a far cry from those! + +But once again, let me apologize for the Linux community, Free Software +developers, Linus Torvalds himself and - of course - mr. Richard Matthew +Stallman for not being proactive enough in their efforts to make GNU/Linux +working on your computer in most flawless and perfect way. I believe they +feel really achamed now and as a sign of my support for their cause, and due +to my involvement in the open source community, I will mourn those tragic +events today with a minute of silence on this mailing list (starting now). + +-- +Eugeni Dodonov +<A HREF="http://eugeni.dodonov.net/">http://eugeni.dodonov.net/</A> +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20110716/e00c252a/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006761.html">[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006739.html">[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6765">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6765">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6765">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6765">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |