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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron</H1>
+ <B>Sandro Cazzaniga</B>
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+ <I>Sat Jul 16 13:09:32 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>I still love and congrats tmb too, for his hardwork!
+Sandro Cazzaniga
+
+-----Original Message-----
+From: &quot;D.Morgan&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Sender: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev-bounces at mageia.org</A>
+Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:07:26
+To: Mageia development mailing-list&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Reply-To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron
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+On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">beranger5ca at yahoo.ca</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> tmb, I hate you.
+</I>
+really clever and polite ...
+
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+&gt;<i> making kernel-desktop-latest to point to kernel-desktop-3.0.0-0.rc7.2.1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.38.8-5.mga2 was a big mistake.
+</I>
+your call, should have been &quot;i think ....&quot; would have been better
+
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+&gt;<i> there should have been something like kernel-desktop-latest3 for a while, to
+</I>&gt;<i> let people test that 3.0 thing (rc, right? I know this is cauldron, but I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> still prefer a kernel that works) while still having a 2.6 kernel.
+</I>
+you still can use the kernel 2.6 which is installed on your machine,
+installing a newer kernel doesn't uninstall the previous one.
+
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+&gt;<i> this 3.0 kernel is a piece of crap. my acer laptop behaves hectically (now I
+</I>&gt;<i> have a mouse, now it's frozen, now the system claims it will reboot, now I
+</I>&gt;<i> have to press the power button for 5 seconds to shutdown it), bcm4311
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't work even with the correct firmware in /lib/firmware/b43, a
+</I>&gt;<i> fully-fledged pita.
+</I>&gt;<i> reverting to 2.6.38.8-5 brought back the joy (and the wireless internet).
+</I>&gt;<i> but I suppose there won't be any update to the 2.6.38.8 kernel, right? even
+</I>&gt;<i> for an unstable thing like cauldron this is rather wrong, because 3.0.0 is
+</I>&gt;<i> not a released kernel as of yet. and a working kernel is a precondition to a
+</I>&gt;<i> working distro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> forcing an rc-something as the current kernel is... unbenevolent
+</I>&gt;<i> dictatorship.
+</I>
+your message is not that democratic too
+
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+&gt;<i> yeah, I know, fedora rawhide and kubuntu 11.10 also have this 3.0.0-rc7-crap
+</I>&gt;<i> sort of thing. so you can't have the latest packages (including the latest
+</I>&gt;<i> kde) w/o having a broken kernel. sigh.
+</I>&gt;<i> but my message stands. tmb, I hate you for pushing this kernel as a forced
+</I>&gt;<i> update via kernel-desktop-latest.
+</I>
+for my part i still love tmb a lot for his awesome work
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