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+ <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jul 6 19:53:08 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/7/6 Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 6 July 2011 15:09, Christiaan Welvaart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah it is a bit of a grab-bag of stuff, but again, should we still just
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bundle everything together anyway and sod the extra disk space needed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It would be a lot simpler for users (&quot;oh you need $foo? sure, just
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed -ugly/-bad&quot;) which is advise they can get direct from upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> without having to know our particular packaging quirks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As someone who does upstream support for other projects, it's a pain to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> put caveats in all your advice for distros you don't know.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That said, the trade off may be too much, hence the canvassing of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> opinions here :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think there are only 2 solutions:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Add a meta package, e.g. gstreamer-codecs-all that can be used to make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;sure all available codecs are installed. Some people complain about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;&quot;bad&quot; and &quot;ugly&quot; so using those names more is not a good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that's how upstream calls them, hiding them won't work, since
+</I>&gt;<i> they're too popular already.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FWIW, there's gstreamer0.10-decoders, a meta package in mdv (not
+</I>&gt;<i> imported yet in Mageia).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Use the packagekit gstreamer plugin, so players install the correct
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;plugins on demand.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ATM it doesn't work, the urpmi backend needs some love..
+</I>I've already given it the tender, love &amp; care required already:
+<A HREF="https://gitorious.org/+rpm5distro/packagekit/rpm5distro-packagekit">https://gitorious.org/+rpm5distro/packagekit/rpm5distro-packagekit</A>
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+I *think* the backend itself should be working (ie. 'pkcon what-provides'
+behaves as expected), but when testing it with ie. totem, it'll fail installing.
+
+I kinda assumed I was the one to blame, but after discussing with packagekit
+upstream devs, they suspected it rather was kpackagekit in cooker that might
+be to blame for it's failure as the urpmi backend seemed to be okay..
+
+I was just starting to poke around with gnome-packagekit before leaving the
+office today, so I haven't verified it to work with it, but perhaps
+some of you'll
+beat me to it before I get into work tomorrow..? :)
+
+Note: I've implemented several other features &amp; filters missing from the backend
+as well while at it, and I cannot guarantee that I haven't broken anything with
+older urpmi/URPM versions (I've tried not to and even fixed my code later on
+where I've realized doign so), so lemme know if anything breaks for ya..
+(Of course, it would be *way* easier to coordinate any slightest change or what
+not with someone remotely interested in communicating)
+
+--
+Regards,
+Per &#216;yvind
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