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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 04 juillet 2011 &#224; 09:37 +0200, Daniel Kreuter a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 07/04/2011 08:28 AM, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We had the name <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">packager-mentoring at ...</A> in mind.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So could we have <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">packager-mentoring at ml.mageia.org</A> ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The ML could also be good as direct input for people who like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contribute as packager.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As you said in your mail before, the mageia-dev or mageia-discuss ML's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are very polulated, so the chances of overreading a mail of someone new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> could happen very easy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what do you mean by &quot;overreading&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Having a dedicated ML just for that as entry point for new guys, we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> abandon that problem and we won't miss someone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You would still miss people who post on -dev, forums or irc. So for the
+</I>&gt;<i> mentoring team, this mean just more work or at least, it cannot be less
+</I>&gt;<i> work.
+</I>
+It shouldn't be more work, just that package mentoring request are more likely
+to be more quickly responded to.
+
+&gt;<i> For mentors and people interested in mentoring, that doesn't bring much
+</I>&gt;<i> either ( ie, they have to read -dev anyway ).
+</I>
+True, for mentors.
+Unless it is also used for the mentoring process itself, in which case a higher
+priority could be given to the mentoring list.
+Actually, such a list might facilitate the mentoring process, since it wouldn't
+be tied to being on line at the same time, as is IRC. And also apprentices
+could read previous mentoring questions and answers.
+But of course, a mailing list can't give the advantages of the real-time
+response of IRC.
+
+&gt;<i> And that's the same for people interested in packaging, this just mean 2
+</I>&gt;<i> lists to follow instead of one ( cause if the goal is to do packages,
+</I>&gt;<i> not subscribing to -dev is out of question IMHO ).
+</I>
+I do agree that everyone subscribing to a mentoring list should also subscribe
+to -dev. (I would say likely also to -discuss, as well.)
+But the 2 lists would have a different focus. The -mentoring list would have
+more immediate importance to apprentices, and probably/possibly to mentors as well.
+
+&gt;<i> So I do not see how yet another list would really help :/
+</I>
+I had the idea of a contact point that packager mentoring requests could be
+directed to, where everyone working with the coordinator could easily monitor.
+ Assuming that messages to this contact point could be put it a separate
+folder, it would make it easier to ensure that such requests are not lost in
+the noise.
+If the coordinator is temporarily unavailable (vacation, etc) and doesn't have
+Internet access (which for me would likely coincide), others working with the
+coordinator could monitor the contact point to ensure a better response.
+Maybe that is overkill, since we do now have the packages_mentoring page
+adapted for those wanting to become packagers. But actively assisting
+potential mentors making contact is advantageous.
+
+But if a new such mailing list were also used for the mentoring process itself,
+that would not detract from it being a useful contact point, so maybe that
+would work.
+
+I'm not trying to insist on it, but at least it seems like something we should
+consider :)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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