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So who should I talk to about setting it up ? +</I>>>>>><i> Would I be able to add new persons myself, or would I have to request +</I>>>>>><i> it ? +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> What would be the use of this group and alias ? +</I>>>>><i> Shouldn't most discussions be public, so on a mailing list ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> This would be for potential packager apprentices or others to easily +</I>>>><i> contact all members the mentoring coordinator team. +</I>>>><i> So one of us can respond quickly, mostly to update our packages_mentoring +</I>>>><i> wiki page.  (Which will be ready in the next few days.) +</I>>>><i> We could also use it to discuss among ourselves, which we now do by +</I>>>><i> private email. So it wouldn't be of general interest.  We wouldn't want +</I>>>><i> those outside our group responding to messages received, like in a +</I>>>><i> public mailing list. +</I>>>><i> (The group might include a few outside our team.) +</I>>>><i> (It could include mentors, but they will see useful info on our wiki +</I>>>><i> page.) A restricted-access mailing list should work. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I don't think there's a need for restricted access, and it would be +</I>>><i> opposite to the way we try to do everything in the open. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What you need is +</I>>><i> 1) a way to be contacted directly by those who need (apprentices) +</I>>><i> 2) a way to discuss within members of the team, but maybe other people too +</I>>><i> if some want to join the discussion +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For 1), I think your @mageia.org address once you will get one is +</I>>><i> sufficient. It's only one means of communication among others (MLs, +</I>>><i> forums, wiki), so I don't think a group is necessarily needed for that. +</I>>><i> You can still forward requests you can't handle yourself. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That being said, I have nothing against the use of a group for that, but only +</I>><i> as a contact e-mail, not for discussion, or only for sensitive discussion +</I>><i> about specific persons. +</I> +That was exactly the purpose -- one contact point ! +(Which we can put in various documentation, etc.) +That way if I'm not available -- on holidays, sick or whatever, I could alert  +the others to ensure a fast response.  And they could always help out if they  +wanted. +And if someone takes my place, it would be a transparent changeover. + +Sensitive discussion could happen with the group, but we could use direct  +contact as well. +(We've been doing a bit in private setting up, but I see that as mostly  +temporary.  Other than sensitive issues, I would see it as mostly coordination  +among ourselves.) + +Otherwise I would prefer everything in the open. +(And I'm sure the others would agree.) + +>><i> For 2), I don't know what is better : +</I>>><i> - use an existing mailing list +</I>>><i> - create a new one +</I> +mageia-dev seems good.  We can just try to limit it to a few threads at a time. + +>><i> I think you must try to use direct e-mail among you only when there's a +</I>>><i> good reason to avoid public discussion. Saying that it's not of general +</I>>><i> interest is not a good enough reason, I think. Do you have other reasons +</I>>><i> for wanting a private mailing list ? +</I> +Agree totally.  No need. + +So in summary, it seems that we should have a group for contacts. +(Say <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pmentoring-coord at group.mageia.org</A> ?) +And no need to add a mailing list. + +>><i> Best regards +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I> +Regards :) +--  +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> +    <HR> +    <P><UL> +        <!--threads--> +	<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006250.html">[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring	program coordinator +</A></li> +	<LI>Next message: <A HREF="006289.html">[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program	coordinator +</A></li> +         <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>  +              <a href="date.html#6253">[ date ]</a> +              <a href="thread.html#6253">[ thread ]</a> +              <a href="subject.html#6253">[ subject ]</a> +              <a href="author.html#6253">[ author ]</a> +         </LI> +       </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> | 
