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You can't discuss it +</I>><i> away with logical reason or morale arguments. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Ok, I think, how many other distros have such repositories. According to +</I>><i> > comments on the list : none. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because +</I>><i> they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for +</I>><i> Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora? +</I> +Fedora has rpmfusion ( <A HREF="http://rpmfusion.org/">http://rpmfusion.org/</A> ) and livna +( <A HREF="http://rpm.livna.org/">http://rpm.livna.org/</A> ) for libdvdcss. There is stringent +requirements : <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems</A> + + +Ubuntu has a multiverse repository, and there is also various ppa, and +medibuntu ( <A HREF="http://medibuntu.org/">http://medibuntu.org/</A> ). Medibuntu is a fork of the PLF +project ( even if they never credited us for the content of their start +page ... ). Ubuntu is not as rigorous than Fedora or Debian. + + +Debian either do not care of the patent problem, or use some individual +repository ( the one of Marillat for example ). AFAIK, the main problem +they had with mplayer were around the licensing and the technical issue +more than patents. The ftp-masters group check packages, there is a FAQ +of the various issues : <A HREF="http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html">http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html</A> , +but I never noticed any specific discussions around patents. Even the +latest discussion about lame on debian legal was around the license +used. + +Gentoo do not care at all, as does most source based distribution ( or +the BSD, for the ports ). There is no use flag to filter for patents or +anything, according to <A HREF="http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml">http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml</A> + +Mandriva has PLF ( <A HREF="http://plf.zarb.org/">http://plf.zarb.org/</A> ), even if the patent issue is +lightly treated ( given the lack of written policy on this regard ). + +Opensuse do not ship mp3 or various restricted codecs, according to +<A HREF="http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_formats/11.3">http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_formats/11.3</A> . AFAIK, this is +handled by <A HREF="http://packman.links2linux.de/">http://packman.links2linux.de/</A> . + +Arch seems to offers the software too. + +><i> > And what happens if there is a patent pursuit against Mageia or it's mirrors +</I>><i> > ? +</I>><i> > Even if we have a separate repository, the package in question might end up +</I>><i> > being withdrawn. But it seems doubtful that one would want to withdraw all +</I>><i> > potentially threatened packages. +</I>><i> > (That would be a big victory for patent sharks.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A patent pursuit will not be aimed against Mageia because Mageia is a +</I>><i> french organisation where there are no software patents. But lawsuits +</I>><i> could be aimed at those mirror maintainers who are runnning their +</I>><i> mirrors in such countries which allow software patents. +</I> +There is also the case of private society who could provides services +around the distribution. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001665.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001664.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1661">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1661">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1661">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1661">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |