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Or a foggy grey zone? +</I>><i> > (SCNR!) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Hmm, "foggy" sounds nice :) +</I>><i> > Or Foggy Bottom :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Better than "tainted" :D +</I> +I like from tainted as that term is already somehow known, + +Another alternative that came to my mind would be "challenge" as patents +could be challenged... + +Or maybe "soap" or "slippery" to explain the uncertainty of +possible patents included packages. + +Mika +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001652.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1651">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1651">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1651">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1651">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001652.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001652.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..78e9aa71e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001652.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%2C%20round%20two&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinOVR9ykRweyh-%3DUbxXPJfcKyGruY8_q5dCv_0z%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001651.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001653.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two</H1> + <B>Marek Laane</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%2C%20round%20two&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinOVR9ykRweyh-%3DUbxXPJfcKyGruY8_q5dCv_0z%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two">bald at smail.ee + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 00:40:04 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001651.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1652">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1652">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1652">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1652">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/8 Mika Laitio <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lamikr at pilppa.org</A>> + +><i> > > > 'Grayzone' ? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Mr. Dorian Gray's zone? Or a foggy grey zone? +</I>><i> > > (SCNR!) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Hmm, "foggy" sounds nice :) +</I>><i> > > Or Foggy Bottom :) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > Better than "tainted" :D +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I like from tainted as that term is already somehow known, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another alternative that came to my mind would be "challenge" as patents +</I>><i> could be challenged... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Or maybe "soap" or "slippery" to explain the uncertainty of +</I>><i> possible patents included packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mika +</I>><i> +</I> +If we have "cauldron" associated with sorcerers and like why not "swamp" as +somehow treacherous feature of landscape where you can never be quite sure? +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101208/7f533228/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001651.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1652">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1652">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1652">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1652">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001653.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001653.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..82e4e0548 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001653.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CFF1486.3000302%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001652.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001654.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CFF1486.3000302%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 06:15:50 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001652.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001654.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1653">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1653">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1653">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1653">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>We have a proposal to add an optional set of respositories for packages +subject to software patents - or at least, seem to be at risk of civil +pursuits in some countries, based on supposed violation of software patents. + +As we know, the suggested name for these repositories is "tainted". +Some suggested that a negative name would denigrate the quality of the +software contained, so another name should be chosen. Myself included. + +Then some bright individual suggested that this was equivalent to +debating the colour to paint a bike shed. + +Which got me thinking. + +Suppose some company claimed a patent against the rpm data format. +(Presumably targeting RedHat.) +So we transfer all rpm-related programs (rpdrake, urpmi, etc) into the +"tainted" repository. + +But wait a minute ! + +By presenting a special set of repositories for patent-affected +software, we could be seen as justifying these patent sharks. +In their minds, why else would be accommodate them ? + +Ok, I think, how many other distros have such repositories. According +to comments on the list : none. +So why are we breaking this ground for the patent sharks ? +How many distros have been sued for patent violation ? +Besides the SCO/Novell fiasco, it seems none. +How many distro mirror sites have been affected by carrying +patent-threatened software ? +To my knowledge : none. +And what happens if there is a patent pursuit against Mageia or it's +mirrors ? +Even if we have a separate repository, the package in question might end +up being withdrawn. But it seems doubtful that one would want to +withdraw all potentially threatened packages. +(That would be a big victory for patent sharks.) + +Thinking further, what reaction have we from potential mirror sites ? +One such site administrator expressed opposition to the extra complexity +of the optional nature of these repositories. +No report of anyone wanting to have an official mirror, that wanted such +repositories. +So we don't seem to have any practical reason to have such a repository. + +So the question remains : Why validate software patents ? + +Something to consider. + +- André +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001652.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001654.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1653">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1653">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1653">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1653">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001654.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001654.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..884f2886d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001654.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikjgL2sAg%2BaWJipKyHyeiacC%2B%3D%3DLoNnVyqfDS%3D1%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001653.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001655.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikjgL2sAg%2BaWJipKyHyeiacC%2B%3D%3DLoNnVyqfDS%3D1%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 09:51:12 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001655.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1654">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1654">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1654">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1654">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/8 andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> By presenting a special set of repositories for patent-affected software, we +</I>><i> could be seen as justifying these patent sharks. +</I>><i> In their minds, why else would be accommodate them ? +</I> +Patented software is a reality in some countries. You can't discuss it +away with logical reason or morale arguments. + +><i> Ok, I think, how many other distros have such repositories.  According to +</I>><i> comments on the list : none. +</I> +Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because +they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for +Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora? + +><i> And what happens if there is a patent pursuit against Mageia or it's mirrors +</I>><i> ? +</I>><i> Even if we have a separate repository, the package in question might end up +</I>><i> being withdrawn.  But it seems doubtful that one would want to withdraw all +</I>><i> potentially threatened packages. +</I>><i> (That would be a big victory for patent sharks.) +</I> +A patent pursuit will not be aimed against Mageia because Mageia is a +french organisation where there are no software patents. But lawsuits +could be aimed at those mirror maintainers who are runnning their +mirrors in such countries which allow software patents. There are +mirrors which are maintained by single private persons (example: me) +where the maintainer can not take such a risk. +That there haven't been any pusuits yet does not mean they are not +possible. As a private person you don't play around with such things +(aka breaking existing laws). + +><i> No report of anyone wanting to have an official mirror, that wanted such +</I>><i> repositories. +</I> +2 reasons: +It is obvious that Mageia has to find a way to supply this sort of software. +It is obvious that in countries with software patents such software +can not be distributed on the mirrors. + +The logical consequence of having "tainted" software within the usual +repos would be that there could not be Mageia mirrors in those +countries at all. + +I agree, this could be a possible solution because geographical +distances do not mean anything in the internet. To draw a real +picture: who would care if there was no Mageia mirror in the USA while +there are mirrors all around outside USA (Canada, Mexico, etc.)? This +way we would also make a statement against the patent laws of such +countries. + +We do not validate anything by acknowledging the facts. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001655.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1654">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1654">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1654">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1654">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001655.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001655.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aaf9daed2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001655.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinF1ZO1w_Z4yzzz95qJ0cbfpniDdfKd7tWxv9xN%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001654.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001656.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinF1ZO1w_Z4yzzz95qJ0cbfpniDdfKd7tWxv9xN%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 09:58:21 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001654.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001656.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1655">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1655">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1655">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1655">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 8 December 2010 10:51, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> 2010/12/8 andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> By presenting a special set of repositories for patent-affected software, we +</I>>><i> could be seen as justifying these patent sharks. +</I>>><i> In their minds, why else would be accommodate them ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Patented software is a reality in some countries. You can't discuss it +</I>><i> away with logical reason or morale arguments. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Ok, I think, how many other distros have such repositories.  According to +</I>>><i> comments on the list : none. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because +</I>><i> they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for +</I>><i> Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora? +</I>><i> +</I> +For Fedora, being the most legally-challenged distro around, they +don't include any patented software in their official repos at all, +not even mp3 playback is possible in a default install. They even +don't include any non-free stuff, so no nVidia and ATI proprietary +drivers. Fedora users use some 3rd party repos, e.g. RPM Fusion +<A HREF="http://rpmfusion.org/">http://rpmfusion.org/</A> + +[...] + +><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> wobo +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001654.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001656.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1655">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1655">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1655">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1655">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001656.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001656.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e8861a16c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001656.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinRzU0Teyr35umiZDwxrM3jhbewpMKYKPJR-qn7%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001655.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001662.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinRzU0Teyr35umiZDwxrM3jhbewpMKYKPJR-qn7%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 10:39:49 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001655.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001662.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1656">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1656">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1656">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1656">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/8 Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> For Fedora, being the most legally-challenged distro around, they +</I>><i> don't include any patented software in their official repos at all, +</I>><i> not even mp3 playback is possible in a default install. They even +</I>><i> don't include any non-free stuff, so no nVidia and ATI proprietary +</I>><i> drivers. Fedora users use some 3rd party repos, e.g. RPM Fusion +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://rpmfusion.org/">http://rpmfusion.org/</A> +</I> +Thx, so it's the same as with Mandriva wrt patented software. +What I wanted to say: distributing no patented software at all is not +the same as "having no extra repository for patented software", so are +Mandriva and Fedora seen as "justifying patent sharks" as andre999 +descibed it? + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001655.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001662.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1656">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1656">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1656">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1656">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001657.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001657.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4bad3eee1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001657.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinX2zmiauY%2Bs9Fa1oVsr94ezG3pEh2JXwX4NcTU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001658.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001659.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Daniel Kreuter</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinX2zmiauY%2Bs9Fa1oVsr94ezG3pEh2JXwX4NcTU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 10:48:34 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001658.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001659.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1657">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1657">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1657">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1657">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>wrote: + +><i> Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because +</I>><i> they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for +</I>><i> Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>In Ubuntu you have some patented software in the repos. For example if you +try to install Ubuntu 10.10 you get asked if you want to install some 3rd +party codecs such as the codec for MP3 during the install process!!! +3rd party drivers like the ones from AMD or NVIDIA are included as well as +some firmware drivers (i never got any problems using my hardware, Debian is +more restricted at this point). + + +-- +Mit freundlichen Grüßen + +Greetings + +Daniel Kreuter +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101208/b23441a9/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001658.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001659.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1657">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1657">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1657">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1657">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001658.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001658.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8ed1efde5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001658.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201012081052.01022.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001678.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001657.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201012081052.01022.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 10:52:00 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001657.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1658">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1658">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1658">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1658">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>> schrieb am 2010-12-08 +><i> On 8 December 2010 10:51, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> For Fedora, being the most legally-challenged distro around, they +</I>><i> don't include any patented software in their official repos at all, +</I>><i> not even mp3 playback is possible in a default install. They even +</I>><i> don't include any non-free stuff, so no nVidia and ATI proprietary +</I>><i> drivers. Fedora users use some 3rd party repos, e.g. RPM Fusion +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://rpmfusion.org/">http://rpmfusion.org/</A> +</I>OpenSuSE does include some non-free software (like drivers) in their official +repos but for those patent-related packages they have "packman" which is quite +similar to Mandriva's plf. +In the OpenSuSE-BuildService you can build Mandriva packages but only if they +have no dependencies outside main, because not even contrib is there... + +And didn't Debian have "non-US" repositories? + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001657.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1658">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1658">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1658">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1658">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001659.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001659.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1a7943b90 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001659.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinoLtH426kSoPKn8WQL7erWQESM1WmABMx4AcCk%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001657.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001660.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinoLtH426kSoPKn8WQL7erWQESM1WmABMx4AcCk%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 10:54:42 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001657.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001660.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1659">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1659">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1659">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1659">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/8 Daniel Kreuter <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> +</I>><i> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because +</I>>><i> they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for +</I>>><i> Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora? +</I> +><i> In Ubuntu you have some patented software in the repos. +</I> +Yes, I know. The question was: do they have those patented software +within the same repo as all the other software or do they have an +extra repo for that. + +In reply to andre999 I wanted to point out that there are other +distributions who make a difference between patented software and +everything else. Some do not distribute them at all (Mandriva, +Fedora), some have them in an extra repository (Ubuntu). + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001657.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001660.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1659">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1659">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1659">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1659">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001660.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001660.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0d724f76f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001660.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikZaHxxmHjwHDgTrw5RFps7ST9XpThnHUA8YKzd%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001659.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001665.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Daniel Kreuter</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikZaHxxmHjwHDgTrw5RFps7ST9XpThnHUA8YKzd%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 10:59:20 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001659.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001665.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1660">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1660">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1660">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1660">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> Yes, I know. The question was: do they have those patented software +</I>><i> within the same repo as all the other software or do they have an +</I>><i> extra repo for that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> wobo +</I>><i> +</I> + + - + + *Main* - Officially supported software. + - + + *Restricted* - Supported software that is not available under a + completely free license. + - + + *Universe* - Community maintained software, i.e. not officially supported + software. + - + + *Multiverse* - Software that is not free. + +This should answer this question. 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You can't discuss it +</I>><i> away with logical reason or morale arguments. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Ok, I think, how many other distros have such repositories. According to +</I>><i> > comments on the list : none. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because +</I>><i> they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for +</I>><i> Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora? +</I> +Fedora has rpmfusion ( <A HREF="http://rpmfusion.org/">http://rpmfusion.org/</A> ) and livna +( <A HREF="http://rpm.livna.org/">http://rpm.livna.org/</A> ) for libdvdcss. There is stringent +requirements : <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems</A> + + +Ubuntu has a multiverse repository, and there is also various ppa, and +medibuntu ( <A HREF="http://medibuntu.org/">http://medibuntu.org/</A> ). Medibuntu is a fork of the PLF +project ( even if they never credited us for the content of their start +page ... ). Ubuntu is not as rigorous than Fedora or Debian. + + +Debian either do not care of the patent problem, or use some individual +repository ( the one of Marillat for example ). AFAIK, the main problem +they had with mplayer were around the licensing and the technical issue +more than patents. The ftp-masters group check packages, there is a FAQ +of the various issues : <A HREF="http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html">http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html</A> , +but I never noticed any specific discussions around patents. Even the +latest discussion about lame on debian legal was around the license +used. + +Gentoo do not care at all, as does most source based distribution ( or +the BSD, for the ports ). There is no use flag to filter for patents or +anything, according to <A HREF="http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml">http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml</A> + +Mandriva has PLF ( <A HREF="http://plf.zarb.org/">http://plf.zarb.org/</A> ), even if the patent issue is +lightly treated ( given the lack of written policy on this regard ). + +Opensuse do not ship mp3 or various restricted codecs, according to +<A HREF="http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_formats/11.3">http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_formats/11.3</A> . AFAIK, this is +handled by <A HREF="http://packman.links2linux.de/">http://packman.links2linux.de/</A> . + +Arch seems to offers the software too. + +><i> > And what happens if there is a patent pursuit against Mageia or it's mirrors +</I>><i> > ? +</I>><i> > Even if we have a separate repository, the package in question might end up +</I>><i> > being withdrawn. But it seems doubtful that one would want to withdraw all +</I>><i> > potentially threatened packages. +</I>><i> > (That would be a big victory for patent sharks.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A patent pursuit will not be aimed against Mageia because Mageia is a +</I>><i> french organisation where there are no software patents. But lawsuits +</I>><i> could be aimed at those mirror maintainers who are runnning their +</I>><i> mirrors in such countries which allow software patents. +</I> +There is also the case of private society who could provides services +around the distribution. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001665.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001664.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1661">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1661">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1661">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1661">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001662.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001662.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bf9af0b5f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001662.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikL-pGpMUNe45dFwBLWNoc9ueoD3OL2axoiagPr%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001656.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001666.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikL-pGpMUNe45dFwBLWNoc9ueoD3OL2axoiagPr%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 13:00:23 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001656.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1662">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1662">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1662">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1662">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 8 December 2010 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> 2010/12/8 Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For Fedora, being the most legally-challenged distro around, they +</I>>><i> don't include any patented software in their official repos at all, +</I>>><i> not even mp3 playback is possible in a default install. They even +</I>>><i> don't include any non-free stuff, so no nVidia and ATI proprietary +</I>>><i> drivers. Fedora users use some 3rd party repos, e.g. RPM Fusion +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://rpmfusion.org/">http://rpmfusion.org/</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thx, so it's the same as with Mandriva wrt patented software. +</I>><i> What I wanted to say: distributing no patented software at all is not +</I>><i> the same as "having no extra repository for patented software", so are +</I>><i> Mandriva and Fedora seen as "justifying patent sharks" as andre999 +</I>><i> descibed it? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> wobo +</I>><i> +</I> +Reality has proven that some users do use patented software, coming +from a semi-official repo or a 3rd party one doesn't seem to matter; +i.e. some Mandriva users use PLF (and/or others), some Fedora they use +RPM Fusion (and/or others), some OpenSuse users use PackMan; and +Debian has a non-US repo... etc + +The whole point is, it's a CYA (cover your a**) situation; just +because a law suit isn't filed doesn't mean it won't/can't be filed. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001656.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1662">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1662">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1662">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1662">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001663.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001663.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8ac574ba6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001663.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4dfb8d32e69e7d9ccf94a0cb5e3ec78f.squirrel%40mail.onse.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001664.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001668.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Anssi Hannula</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4dfb8d32e69e7d9ccf94a0cb5e3ec78f.squirrel%40mail.onse.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">anssi.hannula at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 14:47:00 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001664.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1663">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1663">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1663">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1663">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti: +><i> 2010/12/8 andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>>><i> Ok, I think, how many other distros have such repositories.  According +</I>>><i> to +</I>>><i> comments on the list : none. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because +</I>><i> they do not distribute such software at all, +</I> +In theory only. In practice, Mandriva ships many kind of patented MPEG-4 +encoders/decoders, MP3 decoders, VC-1 decoders, etc. Some discussion about +this should probably be raised there as well.. If I simply had the time :/ + +><i> PLF does that for +</I>><i> Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? +</I> +They ship such stuff (like ffmpeg with all decoders/encoders) in their +main repository, like Debian does. Also, their "universe" repository +(similar to Mandriva's "contrib") does not contain such limitations +either, containing stuff like x264 and mp3lame. + +><i> What about Fedora? +</I> +Fedora does not have such software. + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001664.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1663">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1663">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1663">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1663">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001664.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001664.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..55b8415d7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001664.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C35995d775565a89f472367818f251c08.squirrel%40mail.onse.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001661.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001663.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Anssi Hannula</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C35995d775565a89f472367818f251c08.squirrel%40mail.onse.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">anssi.hannula at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 14:51:26 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001661.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001663.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1664">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1664">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1664">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1664">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Michael Scherer kirjoitti: +><i> Ubuntu has a multiverse repository, and there is also various ppa, and +</I>><i> medibuntu ( <A HREF="http://medibuntu.org/">http://medibuntu.org/</A> ). Medibuntu is a fork of the PLF +</I>><i> project ( even if they never credited us for the content of their start +</I>><i> page ... ). Ubuntu is not as rigorous than Fedora or Debian. +</I> +IIRC multiverse is for packages with license issues. Patents do not count +as one, so they are in "universe" among other free non-core packages. + +A nitpick, really, but still. +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001661.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001663.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1664">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1664">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1664">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1664">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001665.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001665.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a5dc4ac34 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001665.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cb74b217325766a0986a31e263cc6b7ca.squirrel%40mail.onse.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001660.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001661.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Anssi Hannula</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cb74b217325766a0986a31e263cc6b7ca.squirrel%40mail.onse.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">anssi.hannula at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 14:54:29 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001660.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001661.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1665">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1665">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1665">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1665">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti: +><i> 2010/12/8 Daniel Kreuter <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Wolfgang Bornath +</I>>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> +</I>>><i> wrote: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because +</I>>>><i> they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for +</I>>>><i> Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora? +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> In Ubuntu you have some patented software in the repos. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, I know. The question was: do they have those patented software +</I>><i> within the same repo as all the other software or do they have an +</I>><i> extra repo for that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In reply to andre999 I wanted to point out that there are other +</I>><i> distributions who make a difference between patented software and +</I>><i> everything else. Some do not distribute them at all (Mandriva, +</I>><i> Fedora), some have them in an extra repository (Ubuntu). +</I> +Ubuntu doesn't have an extra repository for them. They are in universe, +which contains all the non-core packages (like mdv "contrib"). + +(Some patent-covered stuff, like ffmpeg, are in ubuntu main) + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001660.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001661.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1665">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1665">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1665">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1665">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001666.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001666.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..669117e9b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001666.html @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Ca2ca839caceb35dc240a3fccf9fd20ca.squirrel%40mail.onse.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001662.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001667.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Anssi Hannula</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Ca2ca839caceb35dc240a3fccf9fd20ca.squirrel%40mail.onse.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">anssi.hannula at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 14:59:42 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001662.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001667.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1666">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1666">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1666">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1666">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Ahmad Samir kirjoitti: +><i> Debian has a non-US repo... etc +</I> +There hasn't been a non-US repo in Debian releases in years. It existed +due to cryptographic regulations in the US, IIRC. + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001662.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001667.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1666">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1666">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1666">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1666">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001667.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001667.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1c795cc87 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001667.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DTa2-NaCWu0rJ7PAgcMqXYXQWUHm-xS-Q5fnFi%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001666.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001678.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DTa2-NaCWu0rJ7PAgcMqXYXQWUHm-xS-Q5fnFi%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 15:16:48 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1667">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1667">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1667">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1667">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 8 December 2010 15:59, Anssi Hannula <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi.hannula at iki.fi</A>> wrote: +><i> Ahmad Samir kirjoitti: +</I>>><i> Debian has a non-US repo... etc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There hasn't been a non-US repo in Debian releases in years. It existed +</I>><i> due to cryptographic regulations in the US, IIRC. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Anssi Hannula +</I>><i> +</I> +OK, thanks for the correction. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1667">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1667">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1667">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1667">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001668.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001668.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c21673000 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001668.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CFFB3E9.9070702%40borg1911.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001663.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001669.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Nex6</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CFFB3E9.9070702%40borg1911.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">borg at borg1911.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 17:35:53 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001663.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001669.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1668">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1668">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1668">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1668">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/8/2010 5:47 AM, Anssi Hannula wrote: +><i> Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti: +</I>>><i> 2010/12/8 andre999<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>>>><i> Ok, I think, how many other distros have such repositories.  According +</I>>>><i> to +</I>>>><i> comments on the list : none. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because +</I>>><i> they do not distribute such software at all, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In theory only. In practice, Mandriva ships many kind of patented MPEG-4 +</I>><i> encoders/decoders, MP3 decoders, VC-1 decoders, etc. Some discussion about +</I>><i> this should probably be raised there as well.. If I simply had the time :/ +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> PLF does that for +</I>>><i> Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> They ship such stuff (like ffmpeg with all decoders/encoders) in their +</I>><i> main repository, like Debian does. Also, their "universe" repository +</I>><i> (similar to Mandriva's "contrib") does not contain such limitations +</I>><i> either, containing stuff like x264 and mp3lame. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> What about Fedora? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Fedora does not have such software. +</I>><i> +</I> + +I personally would follow the fedora model. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001663.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001669.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1668">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1668">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1668">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1668">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001669.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001669.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8f53b4804 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001669.html @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1291827713.24859.1.camel%40athene%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001668.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001670.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>herman</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1291827713.24859.1.camel%40athene%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">herman at aeronetworks.ca + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 18:01:53 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001670.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1669">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1669">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1669">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1669">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 09:35 -0700, Nex6 wrote: +><i> > Fedora does not have such software. +</I>><i> I personally would follow the fedora model. +</I> +Fedora is same as Mandriva and Suse. See Livna and Packman +respectively. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001670.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1669">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1669">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1669">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1669">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001670.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001670.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..26d40639a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001670.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201012081818.48390.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001669.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001671.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201012081818.48390.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 18:18:48 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001669.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001671.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1670">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1670">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1670">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1670">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>"herman" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">herman at aeronetworks.ca</A>> schrieb am 2010-12-08 +><i> On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 09:35 -0700, Nex6 wrote: +</I>><i> > I personally would follow the fedora model. +</I>><i> Fedora is same as Mandriva and Suse. See Livna and Packman +</I>><i> respectively. +</I>We are no company that has to be concerned with selling its product in some +strange country with some strange laws. +So why should one community have another community to build the packages that +may not be sold in the before named strange country? +Let's devide the repos in those packages, that can be distibuted everywhere +and those that can't and let the mirror maintainers chose if or if not they +are willing to mirror the second one. + +And if you are suggesting not to provide all those packages (which are mostly +multimedia I think), I'm not with you. I do want a distribution, that can play +my music and videos and so on without having to build the software for +myself... + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001669.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001671.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1670">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1670">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1670">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1670">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001671.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001671.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..95b0c3104 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001671.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinJU%3DXoiMtUks9BDjyFR0tgMWmoKXXEnXwHjNwz%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001670.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001674.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinJU%3DXoiMtUks9BDjyFR0tgMWmoKXXEnXwHjNwz%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 18:28:10 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001670.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001674.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1671">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1671">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1671">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1671">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/8 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> Let's devide the repos in those packages, that can be distibuted everywhere +</I>><i> and those that can't and let the mirror maintainers chose if or if not they +</I>><i> are willing to mirror the second one. +</I> +That was one of the first suggestions in the whole discussion. The +only problem there is that this again creates a problem with the +mirrorlist system (I remember, I'm writing the same words now that I +wrote some weeks ago!). So, we either abandon the mirrorlist approach +or we have 2 mirrorlists (one with and one without tainted software) +and let the user decide which one he sets up on his system. + +><i> And if you are suggesting not to provide all those packages (which are mostly +</I>><i> multimedia I think), I'm not with you. I do want a distribution, that can play +</I>><i> my music and videos and so on without having to build the software for +</I>><i> myself... +</I> ++1 I am sure this goes for the majority of users. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001670.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001674.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1671">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1671">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1671">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1671">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001672.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001672.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f93827b8f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001672.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Downloading%20the%20.iso%20file%3A%20Hopefully%0A%09BitTorrent%09not%20mandated...&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.12.08.17.30.45.174268%40bcs.org.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001675.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001673.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...</H1> + <B>Maurice Batey</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Downloading%20the%20.iso%20file%3A%20Hopefully%0A%09BitTorrent%09not%20mandated...&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2010.12.08.17.30.45.174268%40bcs.org.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...">maurice at bcs.org.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 18:30:46 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? 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We are talking about the +"normal" distribution. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001672.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1673">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1673">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1673">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1673">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001674.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001674.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4444681b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001674.html @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? 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We are talking about the +</I>><i> "normal" distribution. +</I> + Fair enough! And I hope Mageia will not mandate BitTorrent... + +-- +/\/\aurice + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001673.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1676">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1676">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1676">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1676">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001677.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001677.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c7fe8413f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001677.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FDownloading_the_%3D2Eiso_file%3D3A_Hopefully_B%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FitTorrent%3D09not_mandated%3D2E%3D2E%3D2E%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C201012082034.40478.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001676.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FDownloading_the_%3D2Eiso_file%3D3A_Hopefully_B%3F%3D%0A%20%3D%3Futf-8%3Fq%3FitTorrent%3D09not_mandated%3D2E%3D2E%3D2E%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C201012082034.40478.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated...">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 20:34:40 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1677">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1677">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1677">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1677">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Maurice Batey <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>> schrieb am 2010-12-08 +><i> On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:00:54 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +</I>><i> > You are talking about the commercial package. We are talking +</I>><i> > about the "normal" distribution. +</I>><i> Fair enough! And I hope Mageia will not mandate BitTorrent... +</I>As told several times before, BitTorrent wasn't mandatory for +downloading any of the free versions of Mandriva. + +And when you BOUGHT the powerpack you could have asked to get an ftp +download and you got it. +Since there is no commercial version of Mageia, there is no need to +have some special download for those... + +Oliver +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1677">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1677">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1677">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1677">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001678.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001678.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aeee58756 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/001678.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1012081408290.18130%40astro.scholar.athome%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001667.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001658.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?</H1> + <B>Dale Huckeby</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout%20%3A%20Why%20validate%20software%20patents%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1012081408290.18130%40astro.scholar.athome%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ?">spock at evansville.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Dec 8 21:10:19 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001667.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001658.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1678">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1678">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1678">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1678">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Ahmad Samir wrote: + +><i> On 8 December 2010 11:39, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> 2010/12/8 Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> For Fedora, being the most legally-challenged distro around, they +</I>>>><i> don't include any patented software in their official repos at all, +</I>>>><i> not even mp3 playback is possible in a default install. They even +</I>>>><i> don't include any non-free stuff, so no nVidia and ATI proprietary +</I>>>><i> drivers. Fedora users use some 3rd party repos, e.g. RPM Fusion +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="http://rpmfusion.org/">http://rpmfusion.org/</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Thx, so it's the same as with Mandriva wrt patented software. +</I>>><i> What I wanted to say: distributing no patented software at all is not +</I>>><i> the same as "having no extra repository for patented software", so are +</I>>><i> Mandriva and Fedora seen as "justifying patent sharks" as andre999 +</I>>><i> descibed it? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> wobo +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Reality has proven that some users do use patented software, coming +</I>><i> from a semi-official repo or a 3rd party one doesn't seem to matter; +</I>><i> i.e. some Mandriva users use PLF (and/or others), some Fedora they use +</I>><i> RPM Fusion (and/or others), some OpenSuse users use PackMan; and +</I>><i> Debian has a non-US repo... etc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The whole point is, it's a CYA (cover your a**) situation; just +</I>><i> because a law suit isn't filed doesn't mean it won't/can't be filed. +</I> +Perhaps we should call it cya, then. :) + +Dale Huckeby +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001667.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? 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+</A><A NAME="1654"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001656.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1656"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001659.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1659"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001671.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1671"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001673.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A><A NAME="1673"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1675"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001658.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1658"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001670.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1670"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A><A NAME="1677"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001663.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1663"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001664.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1664"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001665.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1665"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1666"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1678"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001657.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1657"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001660.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1660"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001652.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A><A NAME="1652"> </A> +<I>Marek Laane +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001651.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A><A NAME="1651"> </A> +<I>Mika Laitio +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1668"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001655.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1655"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001662.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1662"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001667.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1667"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001661.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1661"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? 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+</A><A NAME="1653"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001654.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1654"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001655.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1655"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001656.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1656"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001657.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1657"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001658.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1658"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001659.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1659"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001660.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1660"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001661.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1661"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001662.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1662"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001663.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1663"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001664.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1664"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001665.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1665"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1666"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001667.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1667"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1668"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001669.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1669"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001670.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1670"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001671.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1671"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001672.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A><A NAME="1672"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001673.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A><A NAME="1673"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001674.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1674"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1675"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001676.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A><A NAME="1676"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001677.html">[Mageia-dev] Downloading the .iso file: Hopefully BitTorrent not mandated... +</A><A NAME="1677"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1678"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Dec 8 21:10:19 CET 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Dec 8 21:10:26 CET 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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+</A><A NAME="1653"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001654.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1654"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001655.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1655"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001656.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1656"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001657.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1657"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001658.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1658"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001659.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1659"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001660.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1660"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001661.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1661"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001662.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1662"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001663.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1663"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001664.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1664"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001665.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1665"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1666"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001667.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1667"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001668.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1668"> </A> +<I>Nex6 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001669.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1669"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001670.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1670"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001671.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1671"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001674.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1674"> </A> +<I>herman +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001675.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1675"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1678"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001651.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A><A NAME="1651"> </A> +<I>Mika Laitio +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001652.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A><A NAME="1652"> </A> +<I>Marek Laane +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Dec 8 21:10:19 CET 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Dec 8 21:10:26 CET 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0689bea58 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101208/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,235 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 8 December 2010 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>8 December 2010 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Dec 8 00:18:11 CET 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Dec 8 21:10:19 CET 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 28<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01291763891- --> +<LI><A HREF="001651.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A><A NAME="1651"> </A> +<I>Mika Laitio +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01291763891-01291765204- --> +<LI><A HREF="001652.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A><A NAME="1652"> </A> +<I>Marek Laane +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01291785350- --> +<LI><A HREF="001653.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1653"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01291785350-01291798272- --> +<LI><A HREF="001654.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1654"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01291785350-01291798272-01291798701- --> +<LI><A HREF="001655.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1655"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01291785350-01291798272-01291798701-01291801189- --> +<LI><A HREF="001656.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1656"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01291785350-01291798272-01291798701-01291801189-01291809623- --> +<LI><A HREF="001662.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1662"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--3 01291785350-01291798272-01291798701-01291801189-01291809623-01291816782- --> +<LI><A HREF="001666.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1666"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<!--3 01291785350-01291798272-01291798701-01291801189-01291809623-01291816782-01291817808- --> +<LI><A HREF="001667.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1667"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--3 01291785350-01291798272-01291798701-01291801189-01291809623-01291839019- --> +<LI><A HREF="001678.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1678"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<!--3 01291785350-01291798272-01291798701-01291801920- --> +<LI><A HREF="001658.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1658"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +</UL> +<!--2 01291785350-01291798272-01291801714- --> +<LI><A HREF="001657.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? +</A><A NAME="1657"> </A> +<I>Daniel Kreuter +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01291785350-01291798272-01291801714-01291802082- --> +<LI><A HREF="001659.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout : Why validate software patents ? 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