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They have often hundred of users on their back waiting for +</I>>><i> fixes. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> When such will go wrong, nobody will be able to check and fix. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> The issue is that we have 2 types of mirror admins : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - there is some of them who are hobbyist/enthusiasts, that use their own +</I>><i> server for that, and that mirror only one or 2 distros, and that may not +</I>><i> do it for their job or as part of their job. I think for example +</I>><i> Wolfgang would be in this category. They want to help us, but they may +</I>><i> have slightly limited ressources. But they can have time to tweak the +</I>><i> mirroring to fit what they can offer to us. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - on the other end of the spectrum, we have people who manage lots of +</I>><i> mirrors, with more bandwidth and bigger servers, more , but maybe not +</I>><i> more time. Ie people that does it as part of their job, with the +</I>><i> associate increase of ressources and work that come with a job. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So admins that are more of the type 1 are likely ok with following +</I>><i> lists, giving input, tweaking rsync scripts, etc. They are the one that +</I>><i> could help us by giving stats or stuff like that, because they have the +</I>><i> time. But that's also people who may have more trouble ( because of +</I>><i> lesser ressources ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Type 2 would prefer to not have too much to do because they may have +</I>><i> better thing to do. Ideally, they set up and do not touch for the 10 +</I>><i> next year and that's ok. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So we need to take in account this divide. +</I>><i> +</I>Good points. +><i> We can't have just one type or the other, but in both case, a simpler +</I>><i> mirroring process will benefit to everybody. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>- André +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001529.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001530.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1531">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1531">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1531">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1531">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |