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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two</H1>
<B>andre999</B>
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<I>Tue Nov 30 03:01:21 CET 2010</I>
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<PRE>Michael Scherer a écrit :
><i> Le lundi 29 novembre 2010 à 14:28 +0100, Olivier Thauvin a écrit :
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> * Thomas Backlund (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at iki.fi</A>) wrote:
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Olivier Thauvin skrev 29.11.2010 03:06:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> * Thomas Backlund (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at iki.fi</A>) wrote:
</I>>>>><i> I can't agree with the "mirrors are free to not mirror this media",
</I>>>>><i> three reasons:
</I>>>>><i> 1) I don't see an easy and safe way for mirrors to exclude a media (a
</I>>>>><i> directory + hdlist in media/media_info) in each distribution,
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Thats easy, just use --exclude-from
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> On my local mirror I exclude the debug stuff
</I>>>><i> so I use --exclude-from=excclude.lst
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> # cat exclude.lst
</I>>>><i> i586/media/*debug*
</I>>>><i> i586/media/media_info/*debug*
</I>>>><i> x86_64/media/*debug*
</I>>>><i> x86_64/media/media_info/*debug*
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> And thats all needed.
</I>>>><i> We can even provide this exclude file ourselves on the mirrors so we
</I>>>><i> know its correct and if we change the mirror layout, we update the file.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> Completly not realist on mirror admin side.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> You really have to remember that first mirror admin job is not maintains
</I>>><i> mirrors. They have often hundred of users on their back waiting for
</I>>><i> fixes.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> When such will go wrong, nobody will be able to check and fix.
</I>>><i>
</I>><i> The issue is that we have 2 types of mirror admins :
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - there is some of them who are hobbyist/enthusiasts, that use their own
</I>><i> server for that, and that mirror only one or 2 distros, and that may not
</I>><i> do it for their job or as part of their job. I think for example
</I>><i> Wolfgang would be in this category. They want to help us, but they may
</I>><i> have slightly limited ressources. But they can have time to tweak the
</I>><i> mirroring to fit what they can offer to us.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> - on the other end of the spectrum, we have people who manage lots of
</I>><i> mirrors, with more bandwidth and bigger servers, more , but maybe not
</I>><i> more time. Ie people that does it as part of their job, with the
</I>><i> associate increase of ressources and work that come with a job.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So admins that are more of the type 1 are likely ok with following
</I>><i> lists, giving input, tweaking rsync scripts, etc. They are the one that
</I>><i> could help us by giving stats or stuff like that, because they have the
</I>><i> time. But that's also people who may have more trouble ( because of
</I>><i> lesser ressources )
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Type 2 would prefer to not have too much to do because they may have
</I>><i> better thing to do. Ideally, they set up and do not touch for the 10
</I>><i> next year and that's ok.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So we need to take in account this divide.
</I>><i>
</I>Good points.
><i> We can't have just one type or the other, but in both case, a simpler
</I>><i> mirroring process will benefit to everybody.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>- André
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