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However, i do +understand that some people would not want to install firmware, but i think we +should do this in another way, (like installing a meta package that enforces +some limits.) +codecs seem odd to be separate, if they have patented problems they should go +in non_free, if no problem, they can go in core. + +B) if they are separate, they would need updates, backports, testing, ... (i +expect non_free does too?) + +C) if they are separate, they cannot be disabled by default, some stuff is +needed for stuff to work. + +D) i have questions about noarch packages, will they be installed on both +trees? and if we have more archs later on, more and more? this seems a waste; +except if we could hardlink them somehow. if not, we should just put them +somewhere separate. + +E) i understand games to be separate, but disabled by default?, i'm not sure i +agree with that. (we need to remember our target audience; stuff needs to work +out-of the box) + +F) what is backports_testing? why can't that just be testing? +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001439.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001442.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1440">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1440">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1440">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1440">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |