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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com
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+ <I>Mon Oct 18 12:25:38 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On 14 October 2010 19:05, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> However, I then found that the new version of VLC had problems with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> DVD menus, and the new CUPS introduced problems (not just in my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installation but at least one other Mandriva user).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would put this down to the fact that currently in Mandriva backports
+</I>&gt;<i> are given little attention by the packagers (as has been mentioned by
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mandriva packagers here themselves).
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+You really look only at what you want :-)
+
+&gt;<i> Of course if we make them more central to the Mageia strategy then more
+</I>&gt;<i> care and testing is needed before a backport is pushed out.
+</I>
+That just mean double the amount of work for the QA team...
+Experience told us that QA team has already too much work, the same
+way, bug triage team has too much work, ...
+
+And double is a minimum since :
+- you're asking for quite a lot more agressive backports, thus quite a
+lot more packages to test
+- instead of just testing the security hole &amp; basic work, we would
+have to test quite a lot more stuff.
+ (eg: for above VLC, playing various video, playing various musics,
+playing DVD, ...)
+- there would be quite a lot more situation to checks. eg:
+ o bare distro + one updated package
+ o bare distro + one backported package
+ o bare distro + one backported package + backported some of its deps
+
+Whereas updates can be tested on top of released distro + its updates,
+for backports, we would have to test the distro + its updates, the
+distro with some backports applied, ...
+
+You're asking for a maintenance nightmare.
+
+Let's focus. Let's maintain &amp; stabilize one thing at a time, that is a
+distro every 6 monthes.
+
+&gt;<i> So I wouldn't consider that a fundamental issue with backports, just a
+</I>&gt;<i> procedural issue.
+</I>
+Yeah sure.
+
+&gt;<i> Also personally I would consider CUPS a core app so I wouldn't have
+</I>&gt;<i> included that in backports at all.
+</I>
+No comment...
+And what about above VLC?
+Cannot you understand that _ANY_ backport can &amp; will break ?
+
+That's remains me new MDV leadership who tried to explain to us how
+easy it's to maintain a stabe distro with 10% of the team...
+
+
+
+Unrelated, I just found out that fglrx updates are half in
+<A HREF="http://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/official/2010.1/x86_64/media/main/updates/">http://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/official/2010.1/x86_64/media/main/updates/</A>
+and half in nonfree/release... whereas they're fully not open
+source...
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