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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1>
+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">marc at marcpare.com
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+ <I>Sat Oct 16 22:41:11 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-16 15:52, Renaud MICHEL a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On samedi 16 octobre 2010 at 21:29, Marc Par&#233; wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There would be no middle man. Once the middle-man could replicate the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bug and verify the bug with other users, then the middle-man would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> submit to bugzilla. That's it. From there on, the middle-man will take
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> care of testing requests from devs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would only work for pure software bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> If the bug is hardware related, it is unlikely that the &quot;middle man&quot; will be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to reproduce it. For those we really need the input from the real bug
+</I>&gt;<i> reporter.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And for software bugs, the &quot;middle man&quot; would have to reproduce the software
+</I>&gt;<i> environment of the reporter, which may be complicated if he installed
+</I>&gt;<i> software from third party (or worse, proprietary software).
+</I>&gt;<i> Sometimes the problem is obvious and only related to a single package, and
+</I>&gt;<i> for such case a forum with some contributors reproducing the bug and then
+</I>&gt;<i> submitting a bug report may work.
+</I>&gt;<i> But if the problem is related to a particular combination of packages then
+</I>&gt;<i> the &quot;middle man&quot; could spend a considerable amount of time replicating the
+</I>&gt;<i> reporter particular configuration before he can actually reproduce the bug.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it may work if those &quot;bug friends&quot; (don't remember who proposed that
+</I>&gt;<i> name) only take for themselves the simple, one package, software only bugs,
+</I>&gt;<i> and suggest to the reporter to create himself a bugreport (eventually
+</I>&gt;<i> providing assistance if the reporter has never done it before) describing
+</I>&gt;<i> his problem, because the devs will really need his feedback first hand.
+</I>&gt;<i> That forum would be an easier entry point than bugzilla for users not
+</I>&gt;<i> familiar with bugreports.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes you are perfectly right. This is where the the bug report would be
+ramped up to the bugzilla stage, and at the point, the reporter would
+have obviously shown an interest in the resolution/fix of the bug. This
+would in effect would create a mentorhsip/reporter relationship and a
+great training opportunity for the reporter. We would then have, by
+default, a mentorship programme in the &quot;Report a bug&quot; forum that may
+eventually form other &quot;bug friends&quot; This would be a great opportunity
+for Mageia to teach reporters how to use bugzilla.
+
+IMHO, this would still be a simple way of dealing with normal users who
+do not want to involve themselves any more than reporting a bug. And for
+those who develop a taste for furthering their knowledge of the process
+of bug reporting, the &quot;bug friend&quot; could then mentor this person ... who
+could eventually become a &quot;bug friend&quot; himself/herself.
+
+Marc
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