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+ <B>Tux99</B>
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+ <I>Thu Oct 14 16:14:12 CEST 2010</I>
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+Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 16:00
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've seen, too many times, trigger-happy packagers backporting
+</I>&gt;<i> packages that're not maintained by them (so they know it less than
+</I>&gt;<i> those package maintainer(s)), breaking those packages and annoying the
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainers of said packages. It's usually irresponsible to backport a
+</I>&gt;<i> package without taking that package maintainer's opinion into account.
+</I>&gt;<i> (an infamous example on that is gwibber being backported to 2010.1).
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+I agree it should be preferably the maintainer doing the backport, or he
+should at least be consulted.
+
+&gt;<i> New users who frequented the forums always got to know what backports
+</I>&gt;<i> are pretty fast. And bugzilla is the perfect system for asking for a
+</I>&gt;<i> backport, that worked pretty good.
+</I>
+The wast majority of 'normal' users never uses the forum.
+Backports shouldn't be something that only users who frequent the forum
+find out about.
+
+&gt;<i> That's they way backports has always worked, no specific patches, just
+</I>&gt;<i> the latest cooker package pushed to backports &quot;as is with no official
+</I>&gt;<i> support&quot;, that's reasonable, packagers shouldn't promise to support
+</I>&gt;<i> backports when they can't due to various reasons (time, effort.. etc).
+</I>
+But IMHO that should change in Mageia, we should promise support by the way
+of timely updates, especially when security issues are present.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Backports shouldn't be second choice, it should be the default,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; since that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would make Mageia stand out from other distros as being the distro
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; were
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; users get the latest versions of apps before any other major
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; distro
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; provides them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Enabling them by default defies the purpose of having backports at
+</I>&gt;<i> all; it's not for new users, it's more for slightly experienced users
+</I>&gt;<i> or power users who want the latest versions of apps.
+</I>
+That's exactly the crucial bit that IMHO needs to change, backports are
+very interesting for 'normal' users so we should make sure normal users
+can use them.
+Don't you see how attractive it is especially for 'normal' users to have
+access to the latest versions all the time?
+Sure, not everyone wants them, but by integrating the skip.list in the
+update GUI we could keep 'conservative' users happy too.
+
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