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These are all true. This is why, in my opinion, +</I>>><i> the Mageia distro should not be installing all of these controversial +</I>>><i> software packages by default. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Are you seriously suggesting Mageia should produce a distro without ssh, +</I>><i> openssl and even with all browsers stripped of https support? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can imagine how popular that would be with the majority of users... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> This would then remove that layer of liability from the Mageia +</I>>><i> project group. In my opinion, Mageia should be wary in wanting to +</I>>><i> install a fully functioning distro if this means using software packages +</I>>><i> that may get it into trouble (Mageia itself). +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> But here lies the mistake in your reasoning. Mageia doesn't have to +</I>><i> exclude all those packages, since the only liability Mageia has, is +</I>><i> towards the French laws. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So the sensible choice is to base the choice of packages to include on +</I>><i> French law. It is up to the user to make sure he/she only installs and +</I>><i> uses packages that are legal in his/her country. +</I>><i> +</I> +Excuse me if I'm wrong -- but you seem to be arguing at cross purposes. +Marc says don't install codecs by default, and Tux99 (and many others) +say codecs must be included in the distro so the user can choose to +install them. +Simple solution - include them in the distro, but not installed by default. +Where is the problem ? + +To make things easier, maybe we should put seriously threatened software +in the non-free section ? (I mean software which is *known* to have +problems, not those just *rumoured* to have.) +In any case, I would certainly avoid excluding useful codecs from the +distribution ISOs. + +By the way, it is not only what is permitted in France, but also what is +permitted in the countries where the mirrors are hosted. Here in +Canada, there is (no longer) a mirror for Mandriva, so the nearest +Mandriva mirrors are in the U.S. + +A few years back, the U.S. restricted severely encryption, unlike in +Canada and most of the rest of the world. So to have normal encryption +with Mozilla software, we in Canada had to download Mozilla from Europe, +since there were at that time no mirrors for Mozilla in Canada. Luckily +the U.S. no longer has such restrictions. +Having to download an entire distro from Europe would be much more +problematic. +So it is useful to consider the laws in likely mirror locations. +For North America, Canada is always a good choice :) + +my 2 cents:) + +- André (andre999) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001125.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001139.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1135">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1135">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1135">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1135">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |