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+ <B>Olivier M&#233;jean</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20repository%20sections%2C%20licenses%2C%20restrictions%2C%0A%09firmware%20etc&In-Reply-To=%3C201010131009.22019.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E"
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+ <I>Wed Oct 13 10:09:21 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 07:24:32, Marc Par&#233; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 2010-10-13 01:14, Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, [UTF-8] Marc Par&#195;&#169; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le 2010-10-12 22:04, Tux99 a &#195;&#169;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; According to your logic that would mean we can't include ssh, openssl,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; pgp, and even https support in any browser.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Does that seems reasonable to you?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; You need to face it, it would be impossible to make a distro that is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; legal in every country of the world and at the same time is of any use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; to the users.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Therefore I don't see the need why we should comply with US patent laws
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; when we don't comply with for example Chinese encryption laws.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; All of your points are exactly what I am trying to point out and even
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; reinforce my concerns. These are all true. This is why, in my opinion,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the Mageia distro should not be installing all of these controversial
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; software packages by default.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are you seriously suggesting Mageia should produce a distro without ssh,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; openssl and even with all browsers stripped of https support?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I can imagine how popular that would be with the majority of users...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; This would then remove that layer of liability from the Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; project group. In my opinion, Mageia should be wary in wanting to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; install a fully functioning distro if this means using software packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that may get it into trouble (Mageia itself).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But here lies the mistake in your reasoning. Mageia doesn't have to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exclude all those packages, since the only liability Mageia has, is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; towards the French laws.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So the sensible choice is to base the choice of packages to include on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; French law. It is up to the user to make sure he/she only installs and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; uses packages that are legal in his/her country.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Obviously running in circles here, I guess we both have our opinions and
+</I>&gt;<i> we let it rest at that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>
+There is no solution.
+
+However, i would like to emphasis that VLC project - <A HREF="http://www.videolan.org/">http://www.videolan.org/</A>
+- is based in France - and i don't remember VLC being sued and found guilty of
+patent infringement. Anyone can download VLC even from website located in USA
+(on cnet.com for example). VLC is not a small project so i guess if there were
+good reasons to sue the project for patent infringement it would have been
+done. VLC also hosts libdvdcss project (among other surely covered with
+patents in USA)
+
+Archlinux which provides libdvdcss have at least one mirror located in the
+USA, as plf have also at least one mirror there.
+
+So my feeling is that we should distribute codecs to access multimedia
+contents out-of-box (provided that the software are free - libre - is there
+are not free, that's for non-free media)
+
+Olivier
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