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etc</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20repository%20sections%2C%20licenses%2C%20restrictions%2C%0A%20firmware%20etc&In-Reply-To=%3CPine.LNX.4.44.1010130323520.18238-100000%40outpost-priv%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Oct 13 03:45:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001118.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001121.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1120">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1120">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1120">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1120">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 12 Oct 2010, [UTF-8] Marc Paré wrote: + +><i> <A HREF="http://www.riaa.com/faq.php">http://www.riaa.com/faq.php</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://newteevee.com/2010/05/21/mpeg-la-threatens-googles-vp8-with-patent-pool-license/">http://newteevee.com/2010/05/21/mpeg-la-threatens-googles-vp8-with-patent-pool-license/</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://thresq.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/03/new-litigation-campaign-targets-tens-of-thousands-of-bittorrent-users.html">http://thresq.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/03/new-litigation-campaign-targets-tens-of-thousands-of-bittorrent-users.html</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.sevensidedcube.net/biggest-movie-law-suite-ever-hurt-locker/">http://www.sevensidedcube.net/biggest-movie-law-suite-ever-hurt-locker/</A> +</I> +Marc, by looking at the links you posted I see that you indeed don't +understand the issue and are confusing copyright with patents. + +The only patent related issue you posted a link for, is the google vp8 +one (which I'm well aware of) and if anything that confirms that even so +called 'safe' codecs like Theora aren't safe at all in the US. + +There is no way any Linux distro (or indeed any software company) can +make sure it complies with US patents, since the US patent situation is +a complete mess, as I mentioned earlier even Microsoft has been +successfully sued for unintentionally using unlicensed patent +technology. +So just leaving out the bits that are currently in plf doesn't guarantee +at all that Mageia is compliant with patent laws in the US. + +><i> If you and others are willing to indemnify Mageia users and installers +</I>><i> against any lawsuits due to packaging unlicensed software/codecs/etc , +</I>><i> this would go a long way to giving people like myself piece of mind. +</I> +Mageia cannot be sued based on US patent laws since Mageia is a French +association with no legal ties to the US. +The packagers themselves are even less exposed since they don't publish +or distribute anything, Mageia does that. + +><i> If RedHat is able to maintain corporate headquarters in the US, then I +</I>><i> would suggest we examine closely their packaging repos. +</I> +In fact since Redhat targets servers they avoid most of the issue +as they don't need multimedia codecs, but nonetheless Redhat is very +exposed to patent lawsuits, just like any other US based software +company. + +><i> You cannot claim international status +</I>><i> if you package a distro that is legal in one country and then illegal in +</I>><i> another. +</I> +If you ONLY want to include packages that are safe in EVERY country of +the world then you need to spend huge amounts of money on layers that +know patent laws for every country in the world and the distro will have +very few 'safe' packages left in the end. + +><i> This is why, in my opinion, Mageia should try to steer itself away, as +</I>><i> much as possible, from grey and illegal areas and leave it to the end +</I>><i> user's choice whether or not to install these packages. +</I> +Exactly, that's why I suggested an install-time option for the user. + +><i> We are trying to build a great package. Why would the Mageia team put +</I>><i> in peril its existence and the people's income +</I>><i> (through potential expensive lawsuits)? +</I> +We won't have a great package if we exclude everything that is +potentially a legal issue in some country of the world, in fact very +little usability will be left in the distro (look at plain +out-of-the-box fedora, which tries to comply to US laws). + +No distro out there is trying to comply to the laws of every country in +the world, most distros just try to comply to the laws of the country +they are legally based in, why should Mageia be any different? + +Again, as long Mageia complies with French law there is no risk of +serious lawsuits (there is no way to protect against frivolous +lawsuits), please don't spread FUD about putting it's existence in +peril, that doesn't help your argument at all. + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001118.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001121.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1120">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1120">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1120">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1120">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |