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And to +</I>><i> > be honest, a rolling distro isn't suitable for new or inexperienced +</I>><i> > users. Simply because you can't guarantee that a new package won't +</I>><i> > introduce regressions (or totally break an app), in this case an +</I>><i> > experienced user will know how to revert to an older version, a new or +</I>><i> > inexperienced user won't. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't think you really read or understood my proposal. +</I>><i> I'm not talking about a real rolling distro like Gentoo, I'm only talking +</I>><i> about foregoing backported security fixes for newer versions with regards +</I>><i> to apps that don't have anything depending on them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mandriva already does that with very few apps (like Firefox), I'm just +</I>><i> proposing to extend that to more apps where it can be done safely. +</I> +So, you don't want a rolling release, just a different security updates policy? + +><i> A backported security fix can introduce as much regressions or instability +</I>><i> (IMHO actually more, because it's essentially a fork so less tested)than +</I>><i> upgrading to a new version. +</I> +In many cases, this depends on the complexity of the fix. In many cases, the +security fix is trivial, but other changes that have ocurred in between are +significant and require much wider testing. + +So, this *will* vary from package to package. But, this has nothing to do with +the system of creating and deploying updates, rolling releases, whether users +are forced to upgrade everything whether they neeeded it or not. It is merely +a policy decision, which is up to the security team. + +><i> Of course it's up to the packager to use good judgement, if the new version +</I>><i> of a particular app is a complete rewrite, then it might not be safe to +</I>><i> provide the new version, but there are many case where it is perfectly +</I>><i> safe and beneficial for the user. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Look at the rolling distros that've been mentioned, Debian or Gentoo, +</I>><i> > right? would anyone recommend Debian or Gentoo for a +</I>><i> > new/inexperienced/non-power user? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sorry, but that comparison is nonsense, Debian and even mre so Gentoo are +</I>><i> not suite for novices for many reasons, not because they are rolling +</I>><i> distros. +</I> +Name one rolling release that is suitable to a large community of non-expert +users. + +Anyway, the rate-of-change in non-rolling distros which have high update rate +(e.g. Fedora) is unacceptable, real rolling distros are a usability nightmare +IMHO. + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000845.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000868.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#867">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#867">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#867">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#867">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |