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And to +</I>>><i> be honest, a rolling distro isn't suitable for new or inexperienced +</I>>><i> users. Simply because you can't guarantee that a new package won't +</I>>><i> introduce regressions (or totally break an app), in this case an +</I>>><i> experienced user will know how to revert to an older version, a new or +</I>>><i> inexperienced user won't. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't think you really read or understood my proposal. +</I>><i> I'm not talking about a real rolling distro like Gentoo, I'm only talking +</I>><i> about foregoing backported security fixes for newer versions with regards +</I>><i> to apps that don't have anything depending on them. +</I>><i> +</I> +Which, if you read the umpteen emails up there :), can and will +introduce new fixes/features and also new regressions, I don't think +any QA team can handle such kind of flow all year long. + +><i> Mandriva already does that with very few apps (like Firefox), I'm just +</I>><i> proposing to extend that to more apps where it can be done safely. +</I> +That's *one* app, and a sort of a special case, and when updating +firefox, it's not just one package, sec. team has to update the +localisation packages, new libnss, new libnspr... etc, as a new +firefox version requires newer libs sometimes. + +><i> A backported security fix can introduce as much regressions or instability +</I>><i> (IMHO actually more, because it's essentially a fork so less tested)than +</I>><i> upgrading to a new version. +</I>><i> +</I> +Not really, I think a sec. fix/patch has much less chances of breaking +an app than a whole new version. + +><i> Of course it's up to the packager to use good judgement, if the new version +</I>><i> of a particular app is a complete rewrite, then it might not be safe to +</I>><i> provide the new version, but there are many case where it is perfectly +</I>><i> safe and beneficial for the user. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Look at the rolling distros that've been mentioned, Debian or Gentoo, +</I>>><i> right? would anyone recommend Debian or Gentoo for a +</I>>><i> new/inexperienced/non-power user? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sorry, but that comparison is nonsense, Debian and even mre so Gentoo are +</I>><i> not suite for novices for many reasons, not because they are rolling +</I>><i> distros. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +No, it isn't nonsense (not just because I posted it :)); +Cooker/Cauldron is the same, it _is_not_ for new/inexperienced users, +too much work, you have to figure out when to update / skip an update, +how to revert to an older package to get a working system again... +etc. Read cooker ML archives, many examples on this. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000841.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000867.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#845">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#845">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#845">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#845">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |