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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+ <I>Mon Oct 3 16:11:04 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 03 Oct 2011, Damien Lallement wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le 01/10/2011 19:24, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is a summary of all hardware that we should buy for next trip to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Marseille datacenter.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - new disk to replace failing disks on ecosse and on valstar, and 2 new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> disks for build nodes (raid1 for system fs, raid0 for build filesystem
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for improved performances), and a disk for the ARM board :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2TB (valstar) + 1TB * 4 =&gt; 169.99 + 4 * 84.99 = 509.95 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-2-to-64-mo-52965.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html">http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-3-5-pouces/western-digital-re4-s-ata-1-to-64-mo-62975.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WD RE4 drives are more expensive than Caviar Black, but seems to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> better if we want less disk failures.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remember that WD Caviar Black are guaranteed for 5 years. I will send them
+</I>&gt;<i> back to WD. So we will have new Caviar Black for spare.
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - backup server : we need a server with a lot of disk space, to save
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> data from other servers. Fast CPU or a lot of ram is not needed on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dams suggested buying this server :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415">http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sv4r415&amp;c=fr&amp;l=fr&amp;s=bsd&amp;cs=frbsdt1&amp;model_id=poweredge-r415</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 899 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adding :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Redundant power supply (132 euros)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * 4 * 1TB disks (4 * 332 euros)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Total: 2 261 euros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So total is quite expensive. An other solution could be to buy a cheap
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computer that one of us keep at home/office, doing remote backups. Or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe we can find someone to donate a server, so that we only need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> buy disks for the server. Maybe we can ask for hardware donations for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this server on mageia-dev and/or blog ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not expensive for my POV as is a new brand machine: if it fails in the
+</I>&gt;<i> first years, no need to buy spare and go to Marseille! Renting a server for
+</I>
+But can they replace the server in Marseille without us going there ? It
+seems difficult.
+
+If we buy an old server at 200 euros, even if we need to replace it 3
+times, it would still be cheaper than 2000 euros.
+
+
+&gt;<i> the same time than the guarantee will cost the same (or even better as GB
+</I>&gt;<i> are really expensive when renting) thing for a single &quot;rent&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - server for packagers, to host VMs used to test package builds. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> needs to be a fast server, with a lot of RAM. Should we buy an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> expensive server for this now ? Or wait until we have more money, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> someone donate a server for this ? Or rent a server at 60 euros /
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> month on online.net ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A guy from the community offer to rent
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml">http://www.online.net/serveur-dedie/offre-dedibox-classic.xhtml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can it suit packagers need (local build machine)?
+</I>&gt;<i> If not enough for packagers build test machine, we know that we will have
+</I>&gt;<i> this &quot;dedibox&quot; available for something else!
+</I>&gt;<i> If no need, we will put the 35&#8364; per month on a other expense.
+</I>
+We need a server for packagers. But preferably something fast as multiple
+people will be building packages at the same time. So the server at 60
+euros per month would be better. Or we can buy a dell server with
+12 cores, 32GB for 2200 euros :
+<A HREF="http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf">http://www.hupstream.com/~boklm/mageia/server-packagers.pdf</A>
+
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