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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Mageia product naming/scoping">rdalverny at gmail.com
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+ <I>Wed Mar 16 21:33:40 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Patricia,
+
+and thanks a lot for your insights.
+
+On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 20:19, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm conflating answers to package naming and website stuff together,
+</I>&gt;<i> because I think the two have some cross-over.
+</I>
+To some extent. But the product ought to live without this website,
+and the website is not only about the final (but about the process to
+get there, and go beyond). At some point, we may even consider to have
+a dedicated website for the product, but we're not there yet.
+
+&gt;<i> One of the reasons a person new to Mageia will visit the site is to
+</I>&gt;<i> find out about Mageia and its various flavours/iterations, and
+</I>&gt;<i> whether they fit the visitor's use case, or appeal to their wish to
+</I>&gt;<i> join a project. So, whatever we call the &quot;products&quot; &lt;shudder&gt;, we
+</I>&gt;<i> need to communicate about them really, really effectively.
+</I>
+Totally, yes.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Goal of this topic is double:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* study/propose/find a name for the product as such (Mageia? Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something? something?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Skirting around this for the moment, except to say that I favour the
+</I>&gt;<i> style Mageia {flavour} {n}; can our names follow the Mageia-Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> lineage maybe? Alchemy for the one where you have to roll your own
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel... 8-) I'm afraid I don't find the explication on the wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> very helpful - are we going to have flavours, for different use
+</I>&gt;<i> cases, or just what is it we're naming?
+</I>
+I may not have been very specific on what is meant by a &quot;use case&quot;
+here. It's not about targetting a gamers group, or a developr group,
+or a hitchhikers group, etc. It's more about how experienced one is
+(not at all, or to some extent) and how the linux distribution is made
+available for testing/installation: install DVD, live/install CD or
+USB key, netboot install, etc.
+
+This, because at this point at least, the only kind of &quot;flavour&quot; we
+would have is this: how to download and use the very same product
+(that is, the same tree of packages, available either through a
+physical medium, either through the network).
+
+Well, that's true for the ISO meant to use live or install the system.
+It's a little bit different for the pluggable storage (USB key for
+now) that provides a different experience: you can use it live,
+install it _and_ have a persistent storage for your data.
+
+So my naming question, to frame it better (and feel free to indicate
+me how/where to make this more clear on the web page) is more about:
+ * how do we name those different access/install experiences? the same
+(Mageia) + a casual description (DVD, LiveCD, netinstall, minimal,
+mobile)? (I favour this, but) or more inspirational names?
+ * and how do we frame them to the new visitor that wants to &quot;download
+Mageia&quot; ?
+
+&gt;<i> Whatever &quot;products&quot; we have on our list (I hate that word. Can we
+</I>&gt;<i> find another, less commercial generic term for the various flavours
+</I>&gt;<i> of Mageia?),
+</I>
+We could, but &quot;product&quot; is the result of some &quot;production&quot;. Nothing
+commercial in this. &quot;artefact&quot; wouldn't qualify I guess. No particular
+idea here.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;- most of this info should be available from the packagers -
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;can we ask them to give the comms team a heads-up in some
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;way when they add/change things, so information on flavour
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;pages can be updated?
+</I>
+That would rely on checking each package changelog and getting in
+touch with the packagers. I don't know how to put some incentive (or
+how to integrate these changelogs) as to make this more easily
+informative. I believe mageia-app-db work done by Stormi can help a
+lot here.
+
+&gt;<i> - have a progression from less to more technical/detailed info - links
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;to package info, for instance, especially the Drak packages and
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;their derivatives and other Mageia/Mandriva specialist packages -
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;I've had msec installed for umpty years and I still haven't ever
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;found decent documentation!
+</I>
+Yes! To find the right balance, and delivering it as a useful, clear,
+to the point doc, still attractive and welcoming. We can do it. We can
+do it. There's a lot to learn from Rails and similar modern web dev
+tools online documentation that is far ahead.
+
+
+Romain
+</PRE>
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