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+ <H1>[Mageia-marketing] WebWorkersCamp presentation post-summary</H1>
+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 23:52, Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> [...] did a presentation [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can you share it with us?
+</I>
+Those were 6/7 very succinct slides to reference my words; the
+description here matters much more than the actual slides (in French).
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; q. why yet another distribution? what will be success like for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you? what difference? when?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; =&gt; explained the first need to move the project into different
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hands/governance - and that fragmentation is not a bad thing, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something to fear, as long as one differentiate enough from others, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> explore different paths - paths to actually be defined _after_ Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1, during the brainstorming session - so this answer was far from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> convincing, of course.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the answer must be find in the marketing plan, this is one of the reason i want
+</I>&gt;<i> to have it as soon as possible:
+</I>
+Yes, to formally design the goal to reach. But the source of it is in
+the brainstorm session - it does not come out of nowhere, and does not
+come only from marcom.
+
+But don't get me wrong. The role of marcom is still critical to
+gather/educate/make a consistent plan out of the discussed
+ideas/plans.
+
+So far, we can only say &quot;it could be this, it could be that&quot;, because
+Mageia 1 goal is nothing more than: making a cool, working
+distribution all by ourselves. Then, iterate on this.
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing-plan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm starting to work on it, these days there will be many improvements (and
+</I>&gt;<i> lot of thing to be discussed)
+</I>
+Cool, please keep the list regularly updated about this, as you make
+progress. Just a note, about vision/mission, there were notes on
+Graham's wiki.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; q. how many downloads/users have you already? and compared to Mandriva?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; =&gt; very difficult figure to get in general; however, last
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> year, MDV could count about 3M users, all versions included; for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia, we can't count users yet, our finale is not yet released - but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we've experienced about 60k downloads for alpha2/beta1 and we expect
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to aim for 1M downloads for Mageia 1 over the year.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can't we discover how many users has mageia using the updates logs?
+</I>
+Not as easy as that; that requires to consolidate logs from all
+mirrors (not counting mirrors we are not aware of) and to take into
+the fact that behind the same IP address can live several systems.
+
+We need another indicator, like, a single ping to a single Mageia
+server each time an install or update process is started - that's not
+perfect yet, but at least it indicates a figure correlated with the
+number of active systems in the wild (and of which version). We used
+to have such a system at MDV.
+
+There may be other methods (among which some very intrusive ones, that
+are not options for us) - I know other distributions faced the same
+issues - Fedora did publish a summary about this, but I can't find the
+document back.
+
+Romain
+</PRE>
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