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+ <B>Bradley D. Thornton</B>
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+On 04/06/2011 05:25 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/4/6 Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Comments inline:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Announcement for forum, blog and mailing lists has/have to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> written (who does this?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ennael appears to have written the one for Alpha 1. Whether or not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> she actually wrote it is beside the point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think she's the logical spokesperson for, lack of a better term,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the corporate face of Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now, having said that, perhaps it is time to bring up how
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> grammatically atrocious the English version of that blog
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> announcement was. It's obvious that even the wind of that release
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> announcement never came through this committee - which is an
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obvious case in point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yep - and the current one's not a lot better. Lots of opportunities
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are also being missed to put a communication-type wrapper around it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that speaks about what kind of community we are - must be fixed for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Final, if not for Beta2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I already wrote in this thread:
+</I>&gt;<i> The current announcement is a simple information to the community of
+</I>&gt;<i> testers and all interested people that Beta1 is out,
+</I>
+The 'current announcement' was a public announcement - As Patricia
+pointed out, it wasn't much better than the first announcement. As I
+pointed out it not even the odor of a draft of this announcement made it
+here to this list.
+
+Finally, it was arbitrarily published, is a hackjob write up, and should
+have come through here.
+
+It doesn't matter who the authors &quot;Think&quot; it is intended for - it is
+public, and a reflection of the marcom group - even though we were
+blindsighted by it.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Role account; also advisory to the board on presenting Mageia outside
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the core community.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That would be nice and important whenever the time allows to ask for
+</I>&gt;<i> this advice, i.e. in situations where announcements and other docs are
+</I>&gt;<i> planned some time before they are needed.
+</I>
+
+I think we've waited six months long enough Wolfgang. I do not concur
+with your thoughts regarding situations that take longer than six months.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can we have some server space and a CRM, and who do we ask for that?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What I'd like to be able to tell new marcom people is: go to here
+</I>
+&gt;<i> You can have all the space you need in the existing wiki right now.
+</I>&gt;<i> Just log in and create it.
+</I>
+Why yes we can have the server space and a CRM :) Not only that, but
+until such time as whomever it is that we keep asking about that
+apparently doesn't exist gets around to it and finally does this for us,
+I'll create a hosted account for the marcom and other teams since we
+can't get a straight answer otherwise. The wiki is [still] temporary I
+believe, has uses, but not acceptable for what we've already discussed for.
+
+Hopefully, someone will get a clue.
+
+&quot;Who do we ask for????&quot; - &quot;Oh just do this instead&quot;. No! That is
+cojmpletely unacceptable! If we can't have the answers to the questions,
+If the resources we, as a team decided upon, aren't being delivered now
+that all of the pieces we've been waiting on have been put in place to
+do so, then we just need to not bother asking anymore.
+
+I haven't worked on this project for months and months and waited for
+the bootstrapping process to be completed, just so this team can be
+obviated or marginalized by whimsical and arbitrary decision making
+contrary to how this organization is established.
+
+NO. We'll just do it ourselves and when this invisible and anonymous
+person who has the power to set up the tools we've asked for actually
+does it, then they can also take a dump of the database we've built and
+we can have it hosted at megeia.org when it is mature enough an
+infrastructure to host such things.
+
+&quot;USE THE WIKI&quot; Was NOT not appreciated, nor was it an acceptable answer!
+
+
+- --
+Bradley D. Thornton
+Manager Network Services
+NorthTech Computer
+TEL: +1.760.666.2703 (US)
+TEL: +44.702.405.1909 (UK)
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