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I was long gone previous year. Now back to work and +</I>>><i> begin to contribute. I have missed the Transifex issue. As i read from +</I>>><i> mailing list archives, the problem was our transifex installation and +</I>>><i> as i +</I>>><i> see from bug reports there are few to maintain mageia transifex. So, we +</I>>><i> abandoned Tx. But now there is no other web interface for i18n tasks. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I' m Turkish coordinator of Transifex, Archlinux AUR translation +</I>>><i> projects +</I>>><i> and contributor to others as well. I do not see issues for them those we +</I>>><i> had with our tx, So, i want to ask; can't we use transifex.net +</I>>><i> instead of +</I>>><i> installing and trying to maintain our tx? Is it hard or impossible? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As a Fedora Ukrainian team coordinator I have to say that there is no +</I>><i> problems with tx.net instance from the translator side. It is just +</I>><i> problematic for developers. They constantly forget to do tx pull/tx +</I>><i> push in Fedora which leads to untranslated apps. Moreover, to be able +</I>><i> to run such commands it is necessary to have the last versions of tx +</I>><i> packages in Mageia. So we need a maintainer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To sum up: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. Transifex cannot commit directly into SVN and Pootle can. +</I>><i> 2. We have Friedel Wolff to help us with Pootle and no maintainer for +</I>><i> tx packages now. +</I>><i> 3. Developers have not said anything about if they can or want to add +</I>><i> "tx pull" into Makefiles. So we first need to hear from them and the +</I>><i> Board to switch to tx.net. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I know, Pootle is an alternative but if we try to install it under +</I>>><i> mageia.org domain and try to maintain it i think it would be hard. I +</I>>><i> mean, +</I>>><i> few people to maintain and lack of time may be problem. What do you +</I>>><i> think? +</I>>><i> Or i missed too much about this particular issue? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So it is just a question on what packages will be maintained, Pootle +</I>><i> or Transifex. So it is again a question of maintainership. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Also, did Launchpad be considered for this? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. Launchpad needs the whole project directly synced/hosted into +</I>><i> Bazaar in LP itself. +</I>><i> 2. Launchpad needs the POTs to be build during general make cycle (now +</I>><i> they are updated/build by specialized Perl scripts). +</I>><i> 3. Launchpad builds Debian-format packages only and Mageia is a Red +</I>><i> Hat-type distribution (RPM). +</I>><i> 4. Launchpad does not allow direct downloading/uploading translation. +</I>><i> You have to wait for several hours just to download/upload a +</I>><i> translated file. +</I>><i> 4. Launchpad Rosetta module is unmaintained (see the constant "Timed +</I>><i> out" errors that appears everywhere). +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I think, at least our Turkish team needs such an interface. I was sole +</I>>><i> Turkish translator for 4 years with Mandriva and it was a real pain. +</I>>><i> Without such a web interface most people do not want to use svn, git +</I>>><i> etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ok. If we can find a maintainer for +</I>><i> Pootle/Transifex/Weblate/what-so-ever packages we can talk about web +</I>><i> translation. And if we (as a translation team) failed to do so, it is +</I>><i> better to leave things as is and do not push on the current +</I>><i> maintainers. They are already too overloaded. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Just my 2 cents. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards, +</I>><i> Yuri +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Thanks Yuri and Atilla, it 's clearer now. +Lebarhon +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004170.html">[Mageia-i18n] What was wrong with Transifex? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004172.html">[Mageia-i18n] What was wrong with Transifex? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4171">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4171">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4171">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4171">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">More information about the Mageia-i18n +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |