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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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I was long gone previous year. Now back to work and +</I>><i> begin to contribute. I have missed the Transifex issue. As i read from +</I>><i> mailing list archives, the problem was our transifex installation and as +</I>><i> i +</I>><i> see from bug reports there are few to maintain mageia transifex. So, we +</I>><i> abandoned Tx. But now there is no other web interface for i18n tasks. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I' m Turkish coordinator of Transifex, Archlinux AUR translation projects +</I>><i> and contributor to others as well. I do not see issues for them those we +</I>><i> had with our tx, So, i want to ask; can't we use transifex.net instead of +</I>><i> installing and trying to maintain our tx? Is it hard or impossible? +</I> +As a Fedora Ukrainian team coordinator I have to say that there is no +problems with tx.net instance from the translator side. It is just +problematic for developers. They constantly forget to do tx pull/tx push +in Fedora which leads to untranslated apps. Moreover, to be able to run +such commands it is necessary to have the last versions of tx packages in +Mageia. So we need a maintainer. + +To sum up: + +1. Transifex cannot commit directly into SVN and Pootle can. +2. We have Friedel Wolff to help us with Pootle and no maintainer for tx +packages now. +3. Developers have not said anything about if they can or want to add "tx +pull" into Makefiles. So we first need to hear from them and the Board to +switch to tx.net. + +><i> I know, Pootle is an alternative but if we try to install it under +</I>><i> mageia.org domain and try to maintain it i think it would be hard. I +</I>><i> mean, +</I>><i> few people to maintain and lack of time may be problem. What do you +</I>><i> think? +</I>><i> Or i missed too much about this particular issue? +</I> +So it is just a question on what packages will be maintained, Pootle or +Transifex. So it is again a question of maintainership. + +><i> Also, did Launchpad be considered for this? +</I> +1. Launchpad needs the whole project directly synced/hosted into Bazaar in +LP itself. +2. Launchpad needs the POTs to be build during general make cycle (now +they are updated/build by specialized Perl scripts). +3. Launchpad builds Debian-format packages only and Mageia is a Red +Hat-type distribution (RPM). +4. Launchpad does not allow direct downloading/uploading translation. You +have to wait for several hours just to download/upload a translated file. +4. Launchpad Rosetta module is unmaintained (see the constant "Timed out" +errors that appears everywhere). + +><i> I think, at least our Turkish team needs such an interface. I was sole +</I>><i> Turkish translator for 4 years with Mandriva and it was a real pain. +</I>><i> Without such a web interface most people do not want to use svn, git etc. +</I> +Ok. If we can find a maintainer for Pootle/Transifex/Weblate/what-so-ever +packages we can talk about web translation. And if we (as a translation +team) failed to do so, it is better to leave things as is and do not push +on the current maintainers. They are already too overloaded. + +Just my 2 cents. + +Best regards, +Yuri +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004169.html">[Mageia-i18n] Update Russian +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004171.html">[Mageia-i18n] What was wrong with Transifex? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4170">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4170">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4170">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4170">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">More information about the Mageia-i18n +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |