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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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| committer | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb22ed42c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> + On 21/04/12 00:00, William Tracy wrote: + <blockquote +cite="mid:CACSkqzxDXoG=nbq3MFbL8P1kPcq6AFWWNNec-hpt2G4Ls5xHOA@mail.gmail.com" + type="cite"><br> + <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, + Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr"><<a + moz-do-not-send="true" + href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>></span> + wrote:<br> + <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 + .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> + <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> + <div> + <div class="h5">As for the PPA's themselves or the + something like it, would need a website for it like they + have for Ubuntu <a moz-do-not-send="true" + href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas" + target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas</a> + and they should only be offered on the site from people + who have gone through the Mageia packaging process and + become trusted packagers I think.</div> + </div> + <div class="h5"><br> + </div> + </div> + </blockquote> + <div><br> + </div> + <div>My understanding was that part of the attraction of + Ubuntu's PPAs was that any registered user could create one, + making it an easy way for developers to distribute their + software until Ubuntu proper gets around to creating an + official package.</div> + </div> + </blockquote> + <br> + Yes that's correct anyone that knows how can make a PPA for Ubuntu. + As for registration I think that has never been needed to make PPA's + for Ubuntu.<br> + <br> + Users of any PPA have to trust the person or people who made it, + that they aren't getting malicious software from the PPA. So on a + official Mageia PPA's or something like PPA's sub site, they could + be offered, but I think should only be from people who have gone + through the Mageia packaging process and that are trusted, as I + suggested in the other message.<br> + <br> + With Ubuntu Some PPA's used to be sort of supported by the Ubuntu + Community, more recently in general PPA's with Ubuntu are supported + more, because the software centre can install them for example.<br> + <br> + Before PPA's if I remember correctly Wine used to have a special + repo for Ubuntu, but for a rather long time those that want the very + latest final version can install the PPA instead. Pidgin also offers + a PPA and has done for a rather long time for it's latest final + version.<br> + <br> + With Ubuntu 11.04 which uses GNOME 2 with their patches as the fall + back mode, and Unity on top of GNOME 2 as the default, there was + also a PPA made for GNOME 3. I tried the PPA out in both Beta 2 and + the final I think, and it didn't work that well for me, and this + seems to have been the case for a lot of other people as well, but + it was known to be buggy.<br> + <br> + So put simply all a PPA tends to be is a way for users to easily + install later versions of software without having to use a + development version of the distribution that offers a later version + of the software that is wanted. Or without waiting until the next + version of the distribution.<br> + <br> + PPA's are repo's as a result the software in those repo's will be + updated usually at times, and proper updates not just security.<br> + <br> + With PPA's it's ok for them to be buggy as mentioned in my previous + email, because unlike backports they probably haven't gone through a + proper QA process.<br> + <br> + Backports from Cauldron to Mageia 2 it seems will probably start + being offered soon after Mageia 2 has been released, but I don't + know for sure. However I do think that having something like PPA's + as well for Mageia would be quite a good thing indeed! As long as + users understand that they may be buggy, and shouldn't be relied on + to much if wanting loads of later software, than what the current + latest stable version of Mageia at the time is offering. Many + Mageia users who would like a lot of later versions of software than + what the repo's of a final version of Mageia has, should probably be + running Cauldron instead really.<br> + <br> + From Sebastian sebsebseb<br> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb22ed42c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> + On 21/04/12 00:00, William Tracy wrote: + <blockquote +cite="mid:CACSkqzxDXoG=nbq3MFbL8P1kPcq6AFWWNNec-hpt2G4Ls5xHOA@mail.gmail.com" + type="cite"><br> + <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, + Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr"><<a + moz-do-not-send="true" + href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>></span> + wrote:<br> + <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 + .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> + <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> + <div> + <div class="h5">As for the PPA's themselves or the + something like it, would need a website for it like they + have for Ubuntu <a moz-do-not-send="true" + href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas" + target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas</a> + and they should only be offered on the site from people + who have gone through the Mageia packaging process and + become trusted packagers I think.</div> + </div> + <div class="h5"><br> + </div> + </div> + </blockquote> + <div><br> + </div> + <div>My understanding was that part of the attraction of + Ubuntu's PPAs was that any registered user could create one, + making it an easy way for developers to distribute their + software until Ubuntu proper gets around to creating an + official package.</div> + </div> + </blockquote> + <br> + Yes that's correct anyone that knows how can make a PPA for Ubuntu. + As for registration I think that has never been needed to make PPA's + for Ubuntu.<br> + <br> + Users of any PPA have to trust the person or people who made it, + that they aren't getting malicious software from the PPA. So on a + official Mageia PPA's or something like PPA's sub site, they could + be offered, but I think should only be from people who have gone + through the Mageia packaging process and that are trusted, as I + suggested in the other message.<br> + <br> + With Ubuntu Some PPA's used to be sort of supported by the Ubuntu + Community, more recently in general PPA's with Ubuntu are supported + more, because the software centre can install them for example.<br> + <br> + Before PPA's if I remember correctly Wine used to have a special + repo for Ubuntu, but for a rather long time those that want the very + latest final version can install the PPA instead. Pidgin also offers + a PPA and has done for a rather long time for it's latest final + version.<br> + <br> + With Ubuntu 11.04 which uses GNOME 2 with their patches as the fall + back mode, and Unity on top of GNOME 2 as the default, there was + also a PPA made for GNOME 3. I tried the PPA out in both Beta 2 and + the final I think, and it didn't work that well for me, and this + seems to have been the case for a lot of other people as well, but + it was known to be buggy.<br> + <br> + So put simply all a PPA tends to be is a way for users to easily + install later versions of software without having to use a + development version of the distribution that offers a later version + of the software that is wanted. Or without waiting until the next + version of the distribution.<br> + <br> + PPA's are repo's as a result the software in those repo's will be + updated usually at times, and proper updates not just security.<br> + <br> + With PPA's it's ok for them to be buggy as mentioned in my previous + email, because unlike backports they probably haven't gone through a + proper QA process.<br> + <br> + Backports from Cauldron to Mageia 2 it seems will probably start + being offered soon after Mageia 2 has been released, but I don't + know for sure. However I do think that having something like PPA's + as well for Mageia would be quite a good thing indeed! As long as + users understand that they may be buggy, and shouldn't be relied on + to much if wanting loads of later software, than what the current + latest stable version of Mageia at the time is offering. Many + Mageia users who would like a lot of later versions of software than + what the repo's of a final version of Mageia has, should probably be + running Cauldron instead really.<br> + <br> + From Sebastian sebsebseb<br> + </body> +</html> |