From 1be510f9529cb082f802408b472a77d074b394c0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Nicolas Vigier Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 13:46:12 +0000 Subject: Add zarb MLs html archives --- .../20120421/39b59f73/attachment-0001.html | 97 ++++++++++++++++++++++ .../attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment.html | 97 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 194 insertions(+) create mode 100644 zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment-0001.html create mode 100644 zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment.html (limited to 'zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73') diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb22ed42c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ + + + + + + On 21/04/12 00:00, William Tracy wrote: +

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On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, + Sebastian sebsebseb <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> + wrote:
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As for the PPA's themselves or the + something like it, would need a website for it like they + have for Ubuntu https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas + and they should only be offered on the site from people + who have gone through the Mageia packaging process and + become trusted packagers I think.
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My understanding was that part of the attraction of + Ubuntu's PPAs was that any registered user could create one, + making it an easy way for developers to distribute their + software until Ubuntu proper gets around to creating an + official package.
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+ Yes that's correct anyone that knows how can make a PPA for Ubuntu. + As for registration I think that has never been needed to make PPA's + for Ubuntu.
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+ Users of any PPA have to trust the person or people who made it, + that they aren't getting malicious software from the PPA.  So on a + official Mageia PPA's or something like PPA's sub site, they could + be offered, but I think should only be from people who have gone + through the Mageia packaging process and that are trusted, as I + suggested in the other message.
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+ With Ubuntu Some PPA's used to be sort of supported by the Ubuntu + Community, more recently in general PPA's with Ubuntu are supported + more, because the software centre can install them for example.
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+ Before PPA's if I remember correctly Wine used to have a special + repo for Ubuntu, but for a rather long time those that want the very + latest final version can install the PPA instead. Pidgin also offers + a PPA and has done for a rather long time for it's latest final + version.
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+ With Ubuntu 11.04 which uses GNOME 2 with their patches as the fall + back mode, and Unity on top of GNOME 2 as the default, there was + also a PPA made for GNOME 3. I tried the PPA out in both Beta 2 and + the final I think, and it didn't work that well for me, and this + seems to have been the case for a lot of other people as well, but + it was known to be buggy.
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+ So put simply all a PPA tends to be is a way for users to easily + install later versions of software without having to use a + development version of the distribution that offers a later version + of the software that is wanted.  Or without waiting until the next + version of the distribution.
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+ PPA's are repo's as a result the software in those repo's will be + updated usually at times, and proper updates not just security.
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+ With PPA's it's ok for them to be buggy as mentioned in my previous + email, because unlike backports they probably haven't gone through a + proper QA process.
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+ Backports from Cauldron to Mageia 2  it seems will probably start + being offered soon after Mageia 2 has been released, but I don't + know for sure. However I do think that having something like PPA's + as well for Mageia would be quite a good thing indeed! As long as + users understand that they may be buggy, and shouldn't be relied on + to much if wanting loads of later software, than what the current + latest stable version of Mageia at the time is offering.  Many + Mageia users who would like a lot of later versions of software than + what the repo's of a final version of Mageia has, should probably be + running Cauldron instead really.
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+ + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb22ed42c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120421/39b59f73/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ + + + + + + On 21/04/12 00:00, William Tracy wrote: +

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On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, + Sebastian sebsebseb <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> + wrote:
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As for the PPA's themselves or the + something like it, would need a website for it like they + have for Ubuntu https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas + and they should only be offered on the site from people + who have gone through the Mageia packaging process and + become trusted packagers I think.
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+
My understanding was that part of the attraction of + Ubuntu's PPAs was that any registered user could create one, + making it an easy way for developers to distribute their + software until Ubuntu proper gets around to creating an + official package.
+
+
+
+ Yes that's correct anyone that knows how can make a PPA for Ubuntu. + As for registration I think that has never been needed to make PPA's + for Ubuntu.
+
+ Users of any PPA have to trust the person or people who made it, + that they aren't getting malicious software from the PPA.  So on a + official Mageia PPA's or something like PPA's sub site, they could + be offered, but I think should only be from people who have gone + through the Mageia packaging process and that are trusted, as I + suggested in the other message.
+
+ With Ubuntu Some PPA's used to be sort of supported by the Ubuntu + Community, more recently in general PPA's with Ubuntu are supported + more, because the software centre can install them for example.
+
+ Before PPA's if I remember correctly Wine used to have a special + repo for Ubuntu, but for a rather long time those that want the very + latest final version can install the PPA instead. Pidgin also offers + a PPA and has done for a rather long time for it's latest final + version.
+
+ With Ubuntu 11.04 which uses GNOME 2 with their patches as the fall + back mode, and Unity on top of GNOME 2 as the default, there was + also a PPA made for GNOME 3. I tried the PPA out in both Beta 2 and + the final I think, and it didn't work that well for me, and this + seems to have been the case for a lot of other people as well, but + it was known to be buggy.
+
+ So put simply all a PPA tends to be is a way for users to easily + install later versions of software without having to use a + development version of the distribution that offers a later version + of the software that is wanted.  Or without waiting until the next + version of the distribution.
+
+ PPA's are repo's as a result the software in those repo's will be + updated usually at times, and proper updates not just security.
+
+ With PPA's it's ok for them to be buggy as mentioned in my previous + email, because unlike backports they probably haven't gone through a + proper QA process.
+
+ Backports from Cauldron to Mageia 2  it seems will probably start + being offered soon after Mageia 2 has been released, but I don't + know for sure. However I do think that having something like PPA's + as well for Mageia would be quite a good thing indeed! As long as + users understand that they may be buggy, and shouldn't be relied on + to much if wanting loads of later software, than what the current + latest stable version of Mageia at the time is offering.  Many + Mageia users who would like a lot of later versions of software than + what the repo's of a final version of Mageia has, should probably be + running Cauldron instead really.
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+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
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