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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006718.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006718.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ec3b6a813 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006718.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5Bboard-public%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj4T8MJaRKhZ1XHRXw-6X4it5d5rKMF9fBhJ254J0oRD%3DA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006719.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5Bboard-public%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj4T8MJaRKhZ1XHRXw-6X4it5d5rKMF9fBhJ254J0oRD%3DA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 13 07:06:19 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6718">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6718">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6718">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6718">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/3/12 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> given the fact that we basically never use the board for anything +</I>><i> ( there was no meeting in 1 year, almost no mail, ie, everything was +</I>><i> done by council ), and given the fact that basically, we do not even +</I>><i> respect our own procedure (ie what the use for me to keep track of who +</I>><i> is member of the association if we vote on irc without checking quorum +</I>><i> or anything ), I would suggest that we massively simplify the whole +</I>><i> organisation by removing the board altogether. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ie, we just keep the council, and that's all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We did nothing of what we said we would, no one seems to bother enough +</I>><i> or to understand the difference between board and council, or is +</I>><i> motivated to keep them separate. So that's no use to keep it. +</I>><i> +</I> +Thx Michael. These were the major reasons for me to resign. + - I see no sense in a position which is neither needed nor holds any +power nor task to the name (same reason I resigned as admin from the +German forum). + - I'm not someone who loves to show as many titles as possible in my signature. + +Seeing the way "elections" were done (2 were needed, 2 applied, lets +do that in 10 minutes in next council meeting) adds to the +"importance" of the board. + +Certain positions (president, secretary, treasurer) are needed due to +French regulations (is that true?), so I suggest the board being +reduced to these positions, so the board has exactly what is needed: +organisational power. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6718">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6718">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6718">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6718">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006719.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006719.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c693fb4ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006719.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5EE5D0.5010303%40xs4all.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006718.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006720.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal</H1> + <B>Marja van Waes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5EE5D0.5010303%40xs4all.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal">marja11 at xs4all.nl + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 13 07:14:40 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006718.html">[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006720.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6719">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6719">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6719">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6719">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12/03/12 22:49, Michael Scherer wrote: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> given the fact that we basically never use the board for anything +</I>><i> ( there was no meeting in 1 year, almost no mail, ie, everything was +</I>><i> done by council ), and given the fact that basically, we do not even +</I>><i> respect our own procedure (ie what the use for me to keep track of who +</I>><i> is member of the association if we vote on irc without checking quorum +</I>><i> or anything ), +</I> +The busier people are, the more likely they are to forget things or +overlook things that should not be forgotten, even if they have thought +about them shortly before. + +Sorry for my part in forgetting and overlooking things :( + +Can't de voting(s) you are referring too be reverted and then redone the +proper way? + + + +><i> I would suggest that we massively simplify the whole +</I>><i> organisation by removing the board altogether. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ie, we just keep the council, and that's all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We did nothing of what we said we would, no one seems to bother enough +</I>><i> or to understand the difference between board and council, or is +</I>><i> motivated to keep them separate. So that's no use to keep it. +</I>><i> +</I> + +It is very, very, frustrating when things don't get done, especially +when you work really, really hard. + + + +><i> As a side note, whatever will result of this discussion and due to the +</I>><i> meeting of council tonight, I would like to immediately resign from my +</I>><i> position of secretary, my position on board and on council as packager +</I>><i> representative. +</I>><i> +</I> +You've done tremendous good jobs so far, I can't think of anyone who +could replace you. + +If for health reasons you must stop immediately, then of course stop and +make sure you recover :) + + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006718.html">[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006720.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6719">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6719">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6719">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6719">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006720.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006720.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..509221f6c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006720.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3C20120313080744.GS21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006719.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006721.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3C20120313080744.GS21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 13 09:07:44 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006721.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6720">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6720">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6720">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6720">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Michael Scherer wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> As a side note, whatever will result of this discussion and due to the +</I>><i> meeting of council tonight, I would like to immediately resign from my +</I>><i> position of secretary, my position on board and on council as packager +</I>><i> representative. +</I> +What exactly makes you unhappy in this council meeting so that you want +to immediately resign ? + +Because I'm not sure to understand what the problem is. + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006719.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006721.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6720">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6720">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6720">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6720">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006721.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006721.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..09732115c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006721.html @@ -0,0 +1,140 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5F1582.2080008%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006720.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006722.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5F1582.2080008%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 13 10:38:10 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006720.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006722.html">[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6721">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6721">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6721">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6721">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi there, + +I notice, not everything went all that well in the past, but there are +things I don't understand: +There are two ways to react to things you dislike in any kind of group +of human beings: +First: If there's anything you think is going wrong, to talk to the +people involved. +This would be the board and the association members in this respect. +Discuss the topic at hand with those people and try to sort it out, +keeping in mind, that others might not share your personal opinion and +you might be overruled. +Although, as Marja has told us in another respect, nobody can be forced +to do anything, he thinks it is fundamentaly wrong (which is part of the +fundamental human rights, although I think that's an awfully big +argument in a small group like ours), living together in a democracy +means also having to accept the majorities decision even if you think, +the majority is wrong (which it sometimes is, as history shows us all +too often). +But this way does only make sense, when you react in time and don't wait +for the next and next and next issue to come up. +Second: You can eat all things you don't like and say nothing about it +until the time comes, where you can't do that anymore. At that time, +everything bursts out of you. + +If you ask me, the first way is by far the better solution, because you +don't achieve anything with the second way, except perhaps, do further +damage to some the group you are part of and you are working with. + +As I see it, there are two things, that went wrong: +- The board election (that should not have been done by the council, +better said, in which the council has no vote, which makes the election +of yesterday void. +I know, I was asking for an election, because I do think even if you +only have two candidates for two positions, it's important to vote upon +them, because if you take a position like that, you have to know, you +have some backing up ba the group you represent. Actually I do prefer +elections with more candidates then positions, so there really is a choice. +I did not consider that not all members of the current council are +association members and that not all association members are in council, +so let's do it right, ask the association members (by mail, we don't +need a secret election here, do we?) and get over this. Solved! +- It's not really clear, what the board is for and what it is not for: +well, (saying, that I don't know French law and can only say it as I see +it from my german perspective. +Looking at <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org</A> the board has the following +responsibilities: + - being in charge of the Mageia properties (hardware,...) + - leading the association according to the rules of the law (calling +for the AG, giving reports there,...) + - conflict resolution (mainly conflicts the council can't handle) + - keeping the core values of the project + - council and teams coordination +What the board is not for is the daily work of the project. This is the +council's and the teams' duty. +As I see it the boards duties are more a kind of an oversight commitee, +that has to act, when things go wrong but otherwise doesn't meddle in +the council's work. +When it comes to decisions regarding e.g the finances, the council can +still discuss it but the board has to approve. +What should be done better in the future is having regular reports of +the assciation work done by the board. So people do know what's happening. + +Coming back to the situation at hand, I think Michael is an important +and valuable member of the project and I do remember, there were quite +some issues in the past, he gave us valuable advices, because we did not +see the problems in the first place. E.g. if you think about the tainted +nonfree things. +Next to that he is someone always diving into problems and solving them. +So I would really hate it, if he should really resign from his +positions, since we do need him, being it as sysadmin, as developer or +as someone with a very clear view on the neccesities of a FLOSS project. + +So I ask misc to reconsider his decision. So that all of us may take +some time to adjust some processes and the organization so that we can +improve it for the coming years. + +And I ask any person involved in Mageia to be prepared to accept a +majority decision as well. +The only thing we can improve there is transparency on these decisions. +But for now, except for some private mails, all was done on IRC or +public ML with available archives. + +Oliver +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006720.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006722.html">[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6721">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6721">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6721">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6721">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006722.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006722.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a7edc9632 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006722.html @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5Bboard-public%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwsOK02x1weXkebPd5Q6Wsonifs4457b%3DQ8tZzZrv4maLg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006721.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006723.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5Bboard-public%5D%20Board%20dissolution%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwsOK02x1weXkebPd5Q6Wsonifs4457b%3DQ8tZzZrv4maLg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 13 10:38:45 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006721.html">[Mageia-discuss] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006723.html">[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6722">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6722">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6722">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6722">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Nothing's perfect. Ever. + +On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 22:49, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> given the fact that we basically never use the board for anything +</I>><i> ( there was no meeting in 1 year, almost no mail, ie, everything was +</I>><i> done by council ), +</I> +The board is made of/for the association direction body: president, +secretary, treasurer (all three required for the legal structure), +deputies to help those before, and other specific roles, on proposal. +Now indeed, 3 is a minimum, 6 was good (so there is support available +for the 3 main functions - remember the financial report for +instance?). + +To say that it is useless because it doesn't get much used explicitely +* after only this short time is pretty appalling. And it did got +needed in some occasions, be it only conflict management (ok, we +certainly fucked it up too, but not because of a structural reason +here). + +* for many possible reasons: + - because it happens that all board members are council members, +mostly, at this time - so their action as board members may be +confused with them being council members; + - or because most of its actions are apparently silent; + - or because the focus is not there yet. + +><i> and given the fact that basically, we do not even respect our own procedure +</I>><i> (ie what the use for me to keep track of who is member of the association +</I>><i> if we vote on irc without checking quorum or anything ), +</I> +This is your job, as a secretary, to check quorum, and validate. How +it happens on IRC, mail, with whatever tool, or none, is a practical +matter that's also yours, as a secretary, to take care of. If it +didn't happen as you think it should have, you can oppose it, that's +your right and your role. Or you can resign. + +><i> I would suggest that we massively simplify the whole +</I>><i> organisation by removing the board altogether. +</I>><i> Ie, we just keep the council, and that's all. +</I> +That's disregarding that we designed two bodies for specific reasons: + - council is outside the associative legal structure, with rather +flexible governance and election rules to be enforced and controlled +by the board; this helps coordinating teams and discerning who can +take a lead in the project; + - board is inside and in charge of the legal structure, and of the +actual direction of the project (deciding it, assuming and defending +it). + +Furthermore, these two bodies are meant to avoid a quick, undesired or +too brutal take over of the direction of the project. + +It has been explained since its inception, and repeated. Very +obviously, this failed or is not enough. But that's also board members +tasks to publicize and explain that. It won't just fall on everyone. + +Now, you don't either candidate and join the board to have a title. +You do if you have a clear project in your mind for what you will do, +if you think you can make it happen and if you get elected. + +><i> We did nothing of what we said we would, +</I> +Mageia is still here. 1 got released pretty well. 2 is on its path. So +please be more specific about the rest. + +><i> no one seems to bother enough or to understand the difference +</I>><i> between board and council, or is motivated to keep them separate. +</I> +"no one" is a generality that discards your argument. + +That some may not bother or understand or be motivated is not a reason +to give up in itself. It's a signal that something should change, yes: +education about these, their structure, or the people inside it. It's +not a signal that you should cut a full leg. + +><i> I would like to immediately resign from my position of secretary, +</I>><i> my position on board and on council as packager representative. +</I> +There no "would like to" for that matter. You do, or you don't. No +one's going to forbid you to. 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It's a signal that something should change, yes: +</I>><i>education about these, their structure, or the people inside it. It's +</I>><i>not a signal that you should cut a full leg. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I would like to immediately resign from my position of secretary, +</I>>><i> my position on board and on council as packager representative. +</I>><i> +</I>><i>There no "would like to" for that matter. You do, or you don't. No +</I>><i>one's going to forbid you to. So it is. +</I> +That's very true in a yoda'ish way :-) + +That said, I think I speak on behalf of many when I say that I "would like +to" ask Michael to stay on board in these roles if time and health permit. + +Remmy +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 836 bytes +Desc: Digital signature +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120313/b21144cb/attachment-0001.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006722.html">[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006725.html">[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6723">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6723">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6723">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6723">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006724.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006724.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cb39f9d4a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006724.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] ftp.linuxcabal.org mirror problem + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20ftp.linuxcabal.org%20mirror%20problem&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5F3CF1.90005%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I started with mandrake +and am now using mageia. Along the way some tremendous hard working +people have given me an excellent program and great support/answers for +my problems. I have no technical ability but I do contribute +financially. I certainly hope that this current leadership problem is +resolved peacefully and a great distribution continues to thrive. + +Thanks to all. Gary + + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006723.html">[Mageia-discuss] [board-public] Board dissolution proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006724.html">[Mageia-discuss] ftp.linuxcabal.org mirror problem +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6725">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6725">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6725">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6725">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006726.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006726.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c0b2c708d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/006726.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BHU-MrR-xmMZHnA4QuPhXZNeJzFhg6%2B68cCxPuV9i_0Dg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006724.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>WALKER RICHARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BHU-MrR-xmMZHnA4QuPhXZNeJzFhg6%2B68cCxPuV9i_0Dg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 13 20:01:47 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006724.html">[Mageia-discuss] ftp.linuxcabal.org mirror problem +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6726">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6726">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6726">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6726">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>For completeness; + +<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4889">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4889</A> + +The fixed package, nfs-utils-1.2.3-2.2.mga1, is in core update-testing +so it should hit core updates soon. + +R + +On 11/03/2012, imnotpc <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">imnotpc at rock3d.net</A>> wrote: +><i> On 03/11/2012 05:59 PM, WALKER RICHARD wrote: +</I>>><i> On 10/03/2012, imnotpc<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">imnotpc at rock3d.net</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> You mentioned in an earlier post that the mga1 box worked once after you +</I>>>><i> commented out the RPCMOUNTD_OPTIONS="--port 4003" option in +</I>>>><i> /etc/sysconfig/nfs-server. I just checked the mga1 test server I set up +</I>>>><i> yesterday and this option isn't set at all. Is it possible you are +</I>>>><i> mixing files from different Mandriva/Mageia versions? Perhaps try +</I>>>><i> un-installing nfs-utils and deleting all it's config files and start +</I>>>><i> again with a clean package install. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Hi Jeff, it took a little more time than I thought but I have found +</I>>><i> the cause and the cure for the problem with nfs-server function on +</I>>><i> Mageia 1. In the process I learned how to use an rpm source package to +</I>>><i> patch and rebuild the offending file for the nfs-utils package. +</I>>><i> Tomorrow; the World! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> First up, the problem is well known and of quite some vintage. It only +</I>>><i> affected nfs-utils v1.2.3 so versions just prior and subsequent (as in +</I>>><i> v1.2.5 in Mageia 2 Cauldron) are OK. Hence the Mandriva 2010.2 worked +</I>>><i> as did my MGA2 Beta1 server. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This reference tells the whole story; +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.linux-nfs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190">https://bugzilla.linux-nfs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So the proposed fix was first seen in October 2010. I have used the +</I>>><i> proposed patch to rebuild the nfs-utils-1.2.3-2.1.mga1 package and it +</I>>><i> works perfectly well with the --ports option for rpc.mountd. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Very good. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> In the course of all this I can confirm your observation that in a +</I>>><i> fresh MGA1 install of the nfs server the RPCMOUNTD_OPTIONS= entry is +</I>>><i> blank in /etc/sysconfig/nfs-server. My guess is that it is only set to +</I>>><i> a specific port number when you use the personal firewall with a hole +</I>>><i> for NFS. I don't see how you could configure the firewall if the +</I>>><i> listening port were to be some random value, so I reckon it's a good +</I>>><i> guess. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'll report this bug for the MGA1 package and we should have the fixed +</I>>><i> version out quite soon. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is an age old issue with these tools since they were originally +</I>><i> designed to use random ports prior to the common use of client +</I>><i> firewalls. I've been hacking their config files since I first started +</I>><i> using Linux to force them to use specific ports and it's always been a +</I>><i> PITA. As annoying as these issues are they are at least not as bad as +</I>><i> trying to get Samba to work in a heterogeneous network. Glad you got it +</I>><i> figured out. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Jeff +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006724.html">[Mageia-discuss] ftp.linuxcabal.org mirror problem +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6726">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6726">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6726">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6726">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..04425b46e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120313/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 13 March 2012 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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