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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>2012/6/28 Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">manuel at hiebel.eu</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le 28/06/2012 03:58, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why are the archives for this mailing list broken down by day?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It makes them very difficult to use. &#160;This list isn't high-volume enough
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to warrant that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It would be much nicer if they were broken down by month.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3289">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3289</A>
+</I>
+Fixed now
+
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</PRE>
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+ <B>James Kerr</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity">jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk
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+<PRE>On 28/06/2012 08:31, andre999 wrote:
+&gt;<i> David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why are the archives for this mailing list broken down by day?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It makes them very difficult to use. This list isn't high-volume
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> enough to warrant that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It would be much nicer if they were broken down by month.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree.
+</I>&gt;<i> It has the option to view by day if that is wanted, and view by thread
+</I>&gt;<i> or subject isn't as useful when it is divided by day.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think that the intention is to move the mailman lists to sympa:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/ML_Migration">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/ML_Migration</A>
+
+Jim
+
+
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+<PRE>On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:37:50 +0100
+James Kerr
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk</A>&gt;
+wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 28/06/2012 08:31, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Why are the archives for this mailing list broken down by day?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It makes them very difficult to use. This list isn't high-volume
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; enough to warrant that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It would be much nicer if they were broken down by month.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I agree.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It has the option to view by day if that is wanted, and view by thread
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; or subject isn't as useful when it is divided by day.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that the intention is to move the mailman lists to sympa:
+</I>
+Really? Sympa has the most awful Web UI ever. I cringe every time I see
+it.
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
+
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+ <B>blind Pete</B>
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+<PRE>Claire Robinson wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On 22/06/12 19:35, Linux User wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am trying Mageia 2 with Ubuntu. Everything is fine but when I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed Ubuntu 12.04 I can't boot into Mageia 2? It throws kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> panic error. It seems like the old bug.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/779213">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/779213</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any suggestion?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ~ BL
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was something about this in the errata.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I><A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Installing_Mageia_next_to_a_GRUB2_based_distribution">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Installing_Mageia_next_to_a_GRUB2_based_distribution</A>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope it helps
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire
+</I>
+Different problem. Grub 1 can not be expected to know about
+Grub 2. Grub 2 should know how to handle a Grub 1 system, but
+doesn't.
+
+There are many many ways to get around this, so many that it
+gets confusing sorting out which method to choose. One of the
+more explainable methods is to make a habit of installing
+systems with boot loaders in their own root partition rather
+than in the mbr. Then you are left with the comparatively
+simple problem of having something in the mbr be able to find
+all of the other boot loaders.
+
+eg. Starting with one distibution on your system, let's call
+it A, with a boot loader in the mbr. Install distribution B
+with its own boot loader in its own root partion. Reconfigure
+A's boot loader so that it can chain B's boot loader. Next
+time you reboot you should see A's Lilo/Grub1/Grub2 screen
+with a menu item for B (plus all of the original A options)
+select B and then you should see a second boot loader, for B.
+
+You might need to look up &quot;chain&quot;.
+
+In Lilo you want something like:
+
+other=/dev/sda11
+ label=&quot;sda11_test&quot;
+ optional
+
+In Grub 1 you want something like:
+
+title m1_grub
+root (hd0,8)
+chainloader +1
+
+You might get what you want by using Mageia's Control Center
+and selecting &quot;Other&quot; operating systems - assuming that the
+other installations already have a boot loader in their
+respective root directories.
+
+--
+blind Pete
+Sig goes here...
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+blind Pete &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">0123peter at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Different problem. Grub 1 can not be expected to know about
+</I>&gt;<i> Grub 2. Grub 2 should know how to handle a Grub 1 system, but
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't.
+</I>
+The docs for GRUB 2 say to chainload. If you install Mandriva then
+Ubuntu, the Ubuntu bootloader, will be in your MBR and useable. You can
+then customise it to boot into Mageia by default. Perhaps not the
+desired outcome.
+
+There is a full tutorial in a series I have found very good on other
+topics, although I haven't looked at this one, at
+<A HREF="http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html">http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html</A>
+
+It covers additional topics, like theming your Grub2 menu (perhaps make
+it look as though it is Mageia?)
+
+FWIW,
+
+Doug.
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:03:22 +1000
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug Laidlaw&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 23:41:22 +0200
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Linux User&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">bootinglinux at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 06/22/2012 10:59 PM, Claire Robinson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 22/06/12 19:35, Linux User wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am trying Mageia 2 with Ubuntu. Everything is fine but when I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed Ubuntu 12.04 I can't boot into Mageia 2? It throws
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kernel panic error. It seems like the old bug.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/779213">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/779213</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any suggestion?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ~ BL
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There was something about this in the errata.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Installing_Mageia_next_to_a_GRUB2_based_distribution">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Installing_Mageia_next_to_a_GRUB2_based_distribution</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks. I will test that and report back.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> BL
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ubuntu uses Grub 2. There was a statement somewhere that Mageia using
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Grub 1 can't dual boot with any distro using Grub 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Doug.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> !DSPAM:4fe516b5208959799860622!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just waking up. It should be possible to boot from the Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader screen. Make that the main bootloader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> HTH,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug.
+</I>
+
+The other way around is possible too, although not officially supported
+ by Mageia.
+
+Read
+<A HREF="http://doc.mageia.org/content/setupBootloaderBeginner.html#usingMageiaBootloader">http://doc.mageia.org/content/setupBootloaderBeginner.html#usingMageiaBootloader</A>
+and the section it links to for adding a GRUB2 based system to your
+Mageia GRUB bootloader
+
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+
+Some of you may be aware of the current shortage of contributors in QA.
+Since the release of Mageia 2 our workload has doubled and we are
+struggling to stay on top of it.
+
+I'd like to appeal to you all, if you can find some time, to consider
+joining the QA team and helping to make Mageia!
+
+You don't have to be a guru to do useful QA so it is a good way for
+people of all experience levels to contribute to the community. We are
+all ages and from all over the world, united by a common cause.
+
+We have a documented procedure to follow and are more than willing to
+offer some informal mentoring until you feel comfortable with what you
+are doing. We have people of all abilities and it is a welcoming and
+friendly, albeit small, team - so please don't be shy or think your
+contribution would be meaningless. We need all the help we can get!
+
+As you may know, the long rumoured backport medias will be opening
+before too long (hopefully!) and it will be our job in QA to test
+backported packages then, aswell as the regular updates. If you like to
+test new stuff before it is released or like to learn about old stuff
+you maybe never knew existed before then QA is definitely for you.
+
+We want to ensure updates are processed in a timely fashion but our
+backlog is growing longer at the moment instead of shorter. So Please,
+if you would like to help, take a moment and read our wiki pages. There
+is a wealth of information there. If you do decide to join then please
+say Hi on the qa-discuss mailing list or on IRC, we'd be very grateful
+and glad to see you!
+
+Wiki: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team</A>
+IRC: #mageia-qa on irc.freenode.net
+
+We will be holding regular meetings now on the IRC channel on Thursdays
+at 19UTC. You are more than welcome to come and join in.
+
+If you need any more info or guidance then please don't hesitate to ask
+either on list or off.
+
+Hope to see you soon!
+
+Thanks
+Claire (MrsB)
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+<PRE>On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:45:49 +0100
+Claire Robinson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some of you may be aware of the current shortage of contributors in
+</I>&gt;<i> QA. Since the release of Mageia 2 our workload has doubled and we are
+</I>&gt;<i> struggling to stay on top of it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to appeal to you all, if you can find some time, to consider
+</I>&gt;<i> joining the QA team and helping to make Mageia!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You don't have to be a guru to do useful QA so it is a good way for
+</I>&gt;<i> people of all experience levels to contribute to the community. We
+</I>&gt;<i> are all ages and from all over the world, united by a common cause.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have a documented procedure to follow and are more than willing to
+</I>&gt;<i> offer some informal mentoring until you feel comfortable with what
+</I>&gt;<i> you are doing. We have people of all abilities and it is a welcoming
+</I>&gt;<i> and friendly, albeit small, team - so please don't be shy or think
+</I>&gt;<i> your contribution would be meaningless. We need all the help we can
+</I>&gt;<i> get!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you may know, the long rumoured backport medias will be opening
+</I>&gt;<i> before too long (hopefully!) and it will be our job in QA to test
+</I>&gt;<i> backported packages then, aswell as the regular updates. If you like
+</I>&gt;<i> to test new stuff before it is released or like to learn about old
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff you maybe never knew existed before then QA is definitely for
+</I>&gt;<i> you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We want to ensure updates are processed in a timely fashion but our
+</I>&gt;<i> backlog is growing longer at the moment instead of shorter. So
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, if you would like to help, take a moment and read our wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> pages. There is a wealth of information there. If you do decide to
+</I>&gt;<i> join then please say Hi on the qa-discuss mailing list or on IRC,
+</I>&gt;<i> we'd be very grateful and glad to see you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wiki: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC: #mageia-qa on irc.freenode.net
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We will be holding regular meetings now on the IRC channel on
+</I>&gt;<i> Thursdays at 19UTC. You are more than welcome to come and join in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you need any more info or guidance then please don't hesitate to
+</I>&gt;<i> ask either on list or off.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope to see you soon!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire (MrsB)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I will think about it, but at the moment I am too old (haven't started
+my countdown,) too heavy with the flu and too inclined to be abrasive.
+
+Doug.
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+<PRE>On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:45:49 +0100
+Claire Robinson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> We will be holding regular meetings now on the IRC channel on
+</I>&gt;<i> Thursdays at 19UTC. You are more than welcome to come and join in.
+</I>
+19 UTC works out at 29 or 05 UTC here (GMT + 10) or 06 UTC summer
+time. Even the updates take days to arrive here. I was born on the
+wrong side of the world.
+
+Doug.
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+Doug Laidlaw &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> 19 UTC works out at 29 or 05 UTC here (GMT + 10) or 06 UTC summer
+</I>&gt;<i> time.
+</I>
+Of course, that should have read:
+
+&gt;<i> 19 UTC works out at 29 or 05 EAST here (GMT + 10) or 06 EADT summer
+</I>&gt;<i> time.
+</I>
+Only Einstein can fiddle with UTC.
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+Doug.
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+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some of you may be aware of the current shortage of contributors in QA.
+</I>&gt;<i> Since the release of Mageia 2 our workload has doubled and we are struggling
+</I>&gt;<i> to stay on top of it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to appeal to you all, if you can find some time, to consider
+</I>&gt;<i> joining the QA team and helping to make Mageia!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You don't have to be a guru to do useful QA so it is a good way for people
+</I>&gt;<i> of all experience levels to contribute to the community. We are all ages and
+</I>&gt;<i> from all over the world, united by a common cause.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have a documented procedure to follow and are more than willing to offer
+</I>&gt;<i> some informal mentoring until you feel comfortable with what you are doing.
+</I>&gt;<i> We have people of all abilities and it is a welcoming and friendly, albeit
+</I>&gt;<i> small, team - so please don't be shy or think your contribution would be
+</I>&gt;<i> meaningless. We need all the help we can get!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you may know, the long rumoured backport medias will be opening before
+</I>&gt;<i> too long (hopefully!) and it will be our job in QA to test backported
+</I>&gt;<i> packages then, aswell as the regular updates. If you like to test new stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> before it is released or like to learn about old stuff you maybe never knew
+</I>&gt;<i> existed before then QA is definitely for you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We want to ensure updates are processed in a timely fashion but our backlog
+</I>&gt;<i> is growing longer at the moment instead of shorter. So Please, if you would
+</I>&gt;<i> like to help, take a moment and read our wiki pages. There is a wealth of
+</I>&gt;<i> information there. If you do decide to join then please say Hi on the
+</I>&gt;<i> qa-discuss mailing list or on IRC, we'd be very grateful and glad to see
+</I>&gt;<i> you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wiki: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC: &#160;#mageia-qa on irc.freenode.net
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We will be holding regular meetings now on the IRC channel on Thursdays at
+</I>&gt;<i> 19UTC. You are more than welcome to come and join in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you need any more info or guidance then please don't hesitate to ask
+</I>&gt;<i> either on list or off.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope to see you soon!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire (MrsB)
+</I>
+I'm in. But I am away from now pretty much until then end of August or
+so. So I will apply and make it more formal then.
+
+Schults
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+ <B>isadora</B>
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+<PRE>Claire,
+
+Would you like to have your call placed into the forum as well?
+If so, i would suggest to copy your message into a topic in the
+&quot;Testing : Alpha, Beta, RC and Cauldron&quot;-subforum.
+I can make it sticky for a while if you agree.
+
+
+~isadora
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+&gt;<i> I'm in. But I am away from now pretty much until then end of August or
+</I>&gt;<i> so. So I will apply and make it more formal then.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Schults
+</I>
+Thanks Schults it'll be great to have you with us. We start ISO testing
+on the first alpha of Mageia 3 on 4th September so that will be just in
+the nick of time :)
+
+Please subscribe to the mailing lists, or at least qa-discuss anyway so
+we can keep in touch until then.
+
+Thankyou!
+
+Claire
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:03:07 +1000
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug Laidlaw&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 19 UTC works out at 29 or 05 UTC here (GMT + 10) or 06 UTC summer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, that should have read:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 19 UTC works out at 29 or 05 EAST here (GMT + 10) or 06 EADT summer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Only Einstein can fiddle with UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug.
+</I>
+
+There is no such thing as too old or far away :D
+
+All meetings are minuted and logged by a meetbot (our secretary) so you
+won't miss anything and everything can be discussed on qa-discuss ML aswell.
+
+I hope you'll decide to join us Doug!
+
+Claire
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+<PRE>On 28/06/12 16:09, isadora wrote:
+&gt;<i> Claire,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would you like to have your call placed into the forum as well?
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, i would suggest to copy your message into a topic in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Testing : Alpha, Beta, RC and Cauldron&quot;-subforum.
+</I>&gt;<i> I can make it sticky for a while if you agree.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ~isadora
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Absolutely, yes please Isadora, we need to spread the message far and
+wide :)
+
+I don't see much of the forum but I'll post it there certainly and try
+to keep an eye on it. Please give me a poke if I miss anybody though :)
+
+Thankyou
+Claire
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+&gt;<i> On 28/06/12 16:09, isadora wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Claire,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Would you like to have your call placed into the forum as well?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If so, i would suggest to copy your message into a topic in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Testing : Alpha, Beta, RC and Cauldron&quot;-subforum.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can make it sticky for a while if you agree.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ~isadora
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Absolutely, yes please Isadora, we need to spread the message far and
+</I>&gt;<i> wide :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see much of the forum but I'll post it there certainly and try
+</I>&gt;<i> to keep an eye on it. Please give me a poke if I miss anybody though :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thankyou
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'll keep an eye on it.
+
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:33:16 +1000
+</I>&gt;<i> blind Pete &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">0123peter at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Different problem. Grub 1 can not be expected to know about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Grub 2. Grub 2 should know how to handle a Grub 1 system, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The docs for GRUB 2 say to chainload. If you install Mandriva then
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu, the Ubuntu bootloader, will be in your MBR and useable. You can
+</I>&gt;<i> then customise it to boot into Mageia by default. Perhaps not the
+</I>&gt;<i> desired outcome.
+</I>
+No there is a bug in the Ubuntu installer, that does not work. It
+should. Possibly if Mageia was installed with its boot loader in
+its root partition it might work, but I strongly suspect that it
+would not, without intervention. My knowledge of Grub 2 is not
+suffeicient to give details.
+
+&gt;<i> There is a full tutorial in a series I have found very good on other
+</I>&gt;<i> topics, although I haven't looked at this one, at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html">http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It covers additional topics, like theming your Grub2 menu (perhaps make
+</I>&gt;<i> it look as though it is Mageia?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FWIW,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug.
+</I>
+--
+blind Pete
+Sig goes here...
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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+My laptop has the usual tinny sound system, so I bought a Creative
+X-Fi USB 5.1 gadget. Some time back, Coling helped me to get that
+working, and that is what I normally use for music. However, I can't
+get the audio in/output sockets to work, so I can't use that for a
+Hangout.
+
+My problem is the number of places that seem related to sound issues.
+ I normally test the speaker setup in System Settings when using the
+USB setup. However, if I need to use the internal audio sockets I
+have to switch back to the Intel HDA card. This is where I come
+unstuck. No matter what I do I can't get sound out, although after a
+lot of experimentation I have managed to hear others speak.
+
+Aslamixergui simply shows the PulseAudio channel - so no adjustment is
+possible there. Alsamixer on Konsole shows that channel by default.
+Pulling up the Intel channel I can set everything, including mic gain,
+to a relatively high setting. The X-Fi channel says that no
+adjustment is possible.
+
+It's possible that there is a microphone problem, but I've tried both
+a stand-along mic and a headset, so I'm inclined to rule that out.
+
+What have I missed? The ideal would be to have everything working on
+the X-Fi, but anything at all that can work will be an improvement :-)
+
+Anne
+- --
+Need KDE help? Try
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+Anne Wilson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Aslamixergui simply shows the PulseAudio channel
+</I>
+Have you looked at the Pulse Audio Volume Control on the menu
+(pavucontrol on a command line?) That is where I sorted out my issues
+about multiple sound cards. According to the recommended config,
+Alsamixer hands the whole job to Pulse. I couldn't get anywhere with
+KDE's selector for output devices.
+
+And have you looked at the Sound section in the Forum? That was where
+tech queries were intended to go. Early on, there was a whisper that
+the Answer Men looked only here, but I haven't found that.
+
+Otherwise, it is too deep for me. I used to have a USB headset (mic &amp;
+phones) and I would simply plug it in. Its own volume control would
+pop up on the desktop when I least expected it.
+
+Something I printed out a while back was all about what you say: too
+many control programs wanting to have a go at your audio setup.
+
+Regards,
+
+Doug.
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+On 29/06/12 15:12, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:56:49 +0100 Anne Wilson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Aslamixergui simply shows the PulseAudio channel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have you looked at the Pulse Audio Volume Control on the menu
+</I>&gt;<i> (pavucontrol on a command line?) That is where I sorted out my
+</I>&gt;<i> issues about multiple sound cards. According to the recommended
+</I>&gt;<i> config, Alsamixer hands the whole job to Pulse. I couldn't get
+</I>&gt;<i> anywhere with KDE's selector for output devices.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I don't see anything in pavucontrol - IIRC there is another
+similarly-named package for PA, but I can't find it.
+
+&gt;<i> And have you looked at the Sound section in the Forum? That was
+</I>&gt;<i> where tech queries were intended to go. Early on, there was a
+</I>&gt;<i> whisper that the Answer Men looked only here, but I haven't found
+</I>&gt;<i> that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>After some poor results from various Forums, I never got into the Forum
+habit. I know I need to re-train myself on that. I'm used to general
+searching, but a Forum rarely crosses my mind :-)
+
+&gt;<i> Otherwise, it is too deep for me. I used to have a USB headset
+</I>&gt;<i> (mic &amp; phones) and I would simply plug it in. Its own volume
+</I>&gt;<i> control would pop up on the desktop when I least expected it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something I printed out a while back was all about what you say:
+</I>&gt;<i> too many control programs wanting to have a go at your audio
+</I>&gt;<i> setup.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>It's one of those frustrating things where you feel that it only needs
+something simple for everything to work well - but you can't remember
+what that thing is. I know there will be those that say turn of PA,
+but it has always worked OK for me - at least, for a very long time -
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+something will ring a bell - a penny will drop - and suddenly all will
+be well :-D
+
+An ne
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+<PRE>Hi Xfce users,
+
+as I've received some questions/wishes/requires about Xfce 4.10 update
+for Mageia 2, I've pushed Xfce 4.10 core pkgs to core/updates_testing.
+If you want to help testing the new release, please enable
+core/updates_testing and install pkgs and report possible issues and/or
+successes.
+
+If you don't want other than Xfce 4.10 pkgs from core/updates_testing,
+you must cherry pick only the needed ones.
+
+Currently updated pkgs:
+libxfce4util
+xfconf
+libxfce4ui
+garcon
+libxfcegui4
+exo
+xfce4-panel
+thunar
+thunar-volman
+xfce4-settings
+xfce4-session
+xfdesktop
+xfwm4
+xfce4-appfinder
+gtk-xfce-engine
+xfce4-power-manager
+tumbler
+
+I'll update plugins and other pkgs later..
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+<PRE>On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:55:37 +0300
+Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi Xfce users,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as I've received some questions/wishes/requires about Xfce 4.10 update
+</I>&gt;<i> for Mageia 2, I've pushed Xfce 4.10 core pkgs to core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to help testing the new release, please enable
+</I>&gt;<i> core/updates_testing and install pkgs and report possible issues
+</I>&gt;<i> and/or successes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you don't want other than Xfce 4.10 pkgs from core/updates_testing,
+</I>&gt;<i> you must cherry pick only the needed ones.
+</I>
+Thanks. I am one of the &quot;wishes.&quot;
+
+Doug.
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+On 29/06/12 15:12, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:56:49 +0100 Anne Wilson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Aslamixergui simply shows the PulseAudio channel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have you looked at the Pulse Audio Volume Control on the menu
+</I>&gt;<i> (pavucontrol on a command line?) That is where I sorted out my
+</I>&gt;<i> issues about multiple sound cards. According to the recommended
+</I>&gt;<i> config, Alsamixer hands the whole job to Pulse. I couldn't get
+</I>&gt;<i> anywhere with KDE's selector for output devices.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And have you looked at the Sound section in the Forum? That was
+</I>&gt;<i> where tech queries were intended to go. Early on, there was a
+</I>&gt;<i> whisper that the Answer Men looked only here, but I haven't found
+</I>&gt;<i> that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Otherwise, it is too deep for me. I used to have a USB headset
+</I>&gt;<i> (mic &amp; phones) and I would simply plug it in. Its own volume
+</I>&gt;<i> control would pop up on the desktop when I least expected it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something I printed out a while back was all about what you say:
+</I>&gt;<i> too many control programs wanting to have a go at your audio
+</I>&gt;<i> setup.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yesterday I finally got time to set up postfix correctly to handle
+internal messages, and installed logwatch. It seems that Mageia's
+version of logwatch has a section that I never had in Fedora - passing
+messages from my router's firewall! Yes, that's all it was - a port,
+ 3225, that needs to be fowarded for sound to work.
+
+Anne
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+<PRE>On 28/06/12 15:45, Claire Robinson wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some of you may be aware of the current shortage of contributors in QA.
+</I>&gt;<i> Since the release of Mageia 2 our workload has doubled and we are
+</I>&gt;<i> struggling to stay on top of it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to appeal to you all, if you can find some time, to consider
+</I>&gt;<i> joining the QA team and helping to make Mageia!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You don't have to be a guru to do useful QA so it is a good way for
+</I>&gt;<i> people of all experience levels to contribute to the community. We are
+</I>&gt;<i> all ages and from all over the world, united by a common cause.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have a documented procedure to follow and are more than willing to
+</I>&gt;<i> offer some informal mentoring until you feel comfortable with what you
+</I>&gt;<i> are doing. We have people of all abilities and it is a welcoming and
+</I>&gt;<i> friendly, albeit small, team - so please don't be shy or think your
+</I>&gt;<i> contribution would be meaningless. We need all the help we can get!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you may know, the long rumoured backport medias will be opening
+</I>&gt;<i> before too long (hopefully!) and it will be our job in QA to test
+</I>&gt;<i> backported packages then, aswell as the regular updates. If you like to
+</I>&gt;<i> test new stuff before it is released or like to learn about old stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> you maybe never knew existed before then QA is definitely for you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We want to ensure updates are processed in a timely fashion but our
+</I>&gt;<i> backlog is growing longer at the moment instead of shorter. So Please,
+</I>&gt;<i> if you would like to help, take a moment and read our wiki pages. There
+</I>&gt;<i> is a wealth of information there. If you do decide to join then please
+</I>&gt;<i> say Hi on the qa-discuss mailing list or on IRC, we'd be very grateful
+</I>&gt;<i> and glad to see you!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wiki: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC: #mageia-qa on irc.freenode.net
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We will be holding regular meetings now on the IRC channel on Thursdays
+</I>&gt;<i> at 19UTC. You are more than welcome to come and join in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you need any more info or guidance then please don't hesitate to ask
+</I>&gt;<i> either on list or off.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope to see you soon!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire (MrsB)
+</I>
+
+Ping :)
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+ <B>Sandro CAZZANIGA</B>
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+<PRE>Le 30 juin 2012 16:49, &quot;Claire Robinson&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 28/06/12 15:45, Claire Robinson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some of you may be aware of the current shortage of contributors in QA.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Since the release of Mageia 2 our workload has doubled and we are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> struggling to stay on top of it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd like to appeal to you all, if you can find some time, to consider
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> joining the QA team and helping to make Mageia!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You don't have to be a guru to do useful QA so it is a good way for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people of all experience levels to contribute to the community. We are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> all ages and from all over the world, united by a common cause.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have a documented procedure to follow and are more than willing to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> offer some informal mentoring until you feel comfortable with what you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are doing. We have people of all abilities and it is a welcoming and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> friendly, albeit small, team - so please don't be shy or think your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contribution would be meaningless. We need all the help we can get!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As you may know, the long rumoured backport medias will be opening
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> before too long (hopefully!) and it will be our job in QA to test
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> backported packages then, aswell as the regular updates. If you like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> test new stuff before it is released or like to learn about old stuff
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you maybe never knew existed before then QA is definitely for you.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We want to ensure updates are processed in a timely fashion but our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> backlog is growing longer at the moment instead of shorter. So Please,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if you would like to help, take a moment and read our wiki pages. There
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is a wealth of information there. If you do decide to join then please
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> say Hi on the qa-discuss mailing list or on IRC, we'd be very grateful
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and glad to see you!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wiki: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IRC: #mageia-qa on irc.freenode.net
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We will be holding regular meetings now on the IRC channel on Thursdays
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> at 19UTC. You are more than welcome to come and join in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you need any more info or guidance then please don't hesitate to ask
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> either on list or off.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hope to see you soon!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Claire (MrsB)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping :)
+</I>
+Ashiqur Rahman Angel (pseudo angel) would like to contribute...
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+<PRE>On 30/06/12 15:53, Sandro CAZZANIGA wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 30 juin 2012 16:49, &quot;Claire Robinson&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 28/06/12 15:45, Claire Robinson wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Some of you may be aware of the current shortage of contributors in QA.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Since the release of Mageia 2 our workload has doubled and we are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; struggling to stay on top of it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'd like to appeal to you all, if you can find some time, to consider
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; joining the QA team and helping to make Mageia!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; You don't have to be a guru to do useful QA so it is a good way for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; people of all experience levels to contribute to the community. We are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; all ages and from all over the world, united by a common cause.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We have a documented procedure to follow and are more than willing to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; offer some informal mentoring until you feel comfortable with what you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; are doing. We have people of all abilities and it is a welcoming and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; friendly, albeit small, team - so please don't be shy or think your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; contribution would be meaningless. We need all the help we can get!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As you may know, the long rumoured backport medias will be opening
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; before too long (hopefully!) and it will be our job in QA to test
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; backported packages then, aswell as the regular updates. If you like to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; test new stuff before it is released or like to learn about old stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; you maybe never knew existed before then QA is definitely for you.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We want to ensure updates are processed in a timely fashion but our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; backlog is growing longer at the moment instead of shorter. So Please,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; if you would like to help, take a moment and read our wiki pages. There
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; is a wealth of information there. If you do decide to join then please
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; say Hi on the qa-discuss mailing list or on IRC, we'd be very grateful
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and glad to see you!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Wiki: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; IRC: #mageia-qa on irc.freenode.net &lt;<A HREF="http://irc.freenode.net">http://irc.freenode.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We will be holding regular meetings now on the IRC channel on Thursdays
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; at 19UTC. You are more than welcome to come and join in.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If you need any more info or guidance then please don't hesitate to ask
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; either on list or off.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hope to see you soon!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Claire (MrsB)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ping :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ashiqur Rahman Angel (pseudo angel) would like to contribute...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thats great Sandro, please show them how :)
+
+We still need more though please, anybody else?
+
+Thankyou!
+Claire
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+We have finished testing in BDK repository for Mageia 2.
+
+To add just visit this link
+<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/blog/drakedalfa/blogdrake">http://blogdrake.net/blog/drakedalfa/blogdrake</A>
+
+or using the tool GetRepoDrake (can be used in different languages clicking
+top right corner)
+
+<A HREF="http://ftp.blogdrake.net/RPMS/GetRepoDrake/">http://ftp.blogdrake.net/RPMS/GetRepoDrake/</A>
+
+We never had taken so much time and work to prepare our repo, like at this
+time. We have reached a number of packages unthinkable 3 years ago when we
+began this adventure.
+&gt;<i>From my personal point of view, I am pleased to tell you that the vast
+</I>majority of people BDK packagers team has been supporting for different
+tasks or ideas and has been very rewarding to work together this time.
+
+I must say that now the idea is move all packages as possible to mageia
+official repos , before mageia 3 release .We are working with this now.It
+is not our intention be a indispensable repository, just to have a
+learning platform for future packagers for mandriva / mageia Spanish
+speakers.
+
+I want to thank all who have put their two cents, packaging, managing
+server, or testing from the Blogdrake forum.
+
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+ <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B>
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+<PRE>On 30.06.2012 12:55, Jani V&#228;limaa wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Xfce users,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as I've received some questions/wishes/requires about Xfce 4.10 update
+</I>&gt;<i> for Mageia 2, I've pushed Xfce 4.10 core pkgs to core/updates_testing.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to help testing the new release, please enable
+</I>&gt;<i> core/updates_testing and install pkgs and report possible issues and/or
+</I>&gt;<i> successes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Just fixed one conflict in libxfce4util, so the update should be smooth now.
+
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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: SHA1
+
+The context menu options, &quot;Extract here, Autodetect subfolder&quot; and
+siblings don't seem to be working very well - although the simpler
+&quot;Extract to&quot; seems fine. Anyone able to confirm?
+
+Anne
+- --
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+ <B>RICHARD WALKER</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Ark%20extraction%20from%20context%20menu&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BGqQo-sgdPpx-Tms2OhMncPNZ-eZbsverAjpBT%2BwPbAOw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Ark extraction from context menu">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com
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+ <I>Sat Jun 30 22:38:05 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Is this just a KDE thing? My context menus in pcmanfm under LXDE are
+similar looking, if not an exact match. I do not get the &quot;Extract
+here, Autodetect subfolder&quot; option, although that is exactly(?) what
+happens when I use &quot;Extract here&quot;. My &quot;Extract to...&quot; option also
+works as expected, though I am having difficulties with &quot;Compress...&quot;.
+
+Could it be something to do with the underlying archiver program. My
+desktop appears to use Xarchiver.
+
+Richard
+
+On 30/06/2012, Anne Wilson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> The context menu options, &quot;Extract here, Autodetect subfolder&quot; and
+</I>&gt;<i> siblings don't seem to be working very well - although the simpler
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Extract to&quot; seems fine. Anyone able to confirm?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i> Need KDE help? Try
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+<LI><A HREF="008093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
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+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
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+
+<LI><A HREF="008095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blogdrake repository for mageia 2 ready
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+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
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+<LI><A HREF="008070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity
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+<I>James Kerr
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+<LI><A HREF="008073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
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+<I>Doug Laidlaw
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+<LI><A HREF="008076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
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+<LI><A HREF="008077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
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+<I>Doug Laidlaw
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+<LI><A HREF="008087.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
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+<LI><A HREF="008090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
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+<I>Doug Laidlaw
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+<LI><A HREF="008072.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
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+<I>blind Pete
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+<LI><A HREF="008085.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
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+<I>Antoine Pitrou
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+<LI><A HREF="008075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
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+
+<LI><A HREF="008081.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
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+<I>Claire Robinson
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+<LI><A HREF="008089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
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+</A><A NAME="8096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
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+
+<LI><A HREF="008098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Ark extraction from context menu
+</A><A NAME="8098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>RICHARD WALKER
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+<LI><A HREF="008074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="008086.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
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+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="008091.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout - SOLVED!
+</A><A NAME="8091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
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+<LI><A HREF="008097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Ark extraction from context menu
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+<I>Anne Wilson
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+<I>Anne nicolas
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+<LI><A HREF="008070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity
+</A><A NAME="8070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="008071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity
+</A><A NAME="8071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008072.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
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+<LI><A HREF="008073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="008074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
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+<I>Marja van Waes
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+<LI><A HREF="008075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
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+<I>Claire Robinson
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+<LI><A HREF="008076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
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+<I>Doug Laidlaw
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+<I>Donald Stewart
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+<LI><A HREF="008078.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
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+<I>Doug Laidlaw
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+<LI><A HREF="008080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
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+<I>Claire Robinson
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+<I>Claire Robinson
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+<LI><A HREF="008083.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
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+<I>Claire Robinson
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+
+<LI><A HREF="008084.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
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+<I>isadora
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+<LI><A HREF="008085.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
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+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008086.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008087.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008088.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008091.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout - SOLVED!
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+<I>Anne Wilson
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+<LI><A HREF="008092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
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+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
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+
+<LI><A HREF="008094.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blogdrake repository for mageia 2 ready
+</A><A NAME="8095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Ark extraction from context menu
+</A><A NAME="8097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
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+
+<LI><A HREF="008098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Ark extraction from context menu
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+<I>RICHARD WALKER
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+<LI><A HREF="008075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008079.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008078.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008081.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008082.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008083.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008084.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008094.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Ark extraction from context menu
+</A><A NAME="8097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Ark extraction from context menu
+</A><A NAME="8098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>RICHARD WALKER
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blogdrake repository for mageia 2 ready
+</A><A NAME="8095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008072.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008085.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity
+</A><A NAME="8069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity
+</A><A NAME="8070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity
+</A><A NAME="8071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008086.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008087.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008088.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008091.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout - SOLVED!
+</A><A NAME="8091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Jun 30 22:38:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Jun 30 22:38:11 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <hr>
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+ <h1>June 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Jun 28 11:06:21 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Jun 30 22:38:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 30<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01340874381- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008069.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity
+</A><A NAME="8069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340876270- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity
+</A><A NAME="8070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>James Kerr
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01340876270-01340878910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008071.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailing list archive insanity
+</A><A NAME="8071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01340886796- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008072.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01340886796-01340889624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008073.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01340886796-01340889624-01340922032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008085.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01340893103- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008074.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't Dual Boot With Ubuntu
+</A><A NAME="8074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340894749- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008075.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01340894749-01340895503- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008076.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01340894749-01340895787- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008077.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01340894749-01340895787-01340896067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008078.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01340894749-01340895787-01340896067-01340896474- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008082.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01340894749-01340896050- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008079.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01340894749-01340896050-01340896291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008081.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01340894749-01340896151- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008080.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01340894749-01340896151-01340896636- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008083.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01340894749-01340896151-01340896636-01340896753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008084.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>isadora
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01340894749-01341067703- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008092.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01340894749-01341067703-01341068023- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008093.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01340894749-01341067703-01341068023-01341071503- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008094.html">[Mageia-discuss] Appeal for people - QA Needs You
+</A><A NAME="8094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01340978209- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008086.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01340978209-01340979123- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008087.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01340978209-01340979123-01340980620- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008088.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout
+</A><A NAME="8088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01340978209-01340979123-01341066009- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008091.html">[Mageia-discuss] No sound for Google Hangout - SOLVED!
+</A><A NAME="8091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01341050137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008089.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341050137-01341050833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008090.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01341050137-01341073988- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008096.html">[Mageia-discuss] Xfce 4.10 in core/updates_testing for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="8096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01341072637- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008095.html">[Mageia-discuss] Blogdrake repository for mageia 2 ready
+</A><A NAME="8095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gonzalo Igartua
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01341082740- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008097.html">[Mageia-discuss] Ark extraction from context menu
+</A><A NAME="8097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01341082740-01341088685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008098.html">[Mageia-discuss] Ark extraction from context menu
+</A><A NAME="8098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>RICHARD WALKER
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Jun 30 22:38:05 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Jun 30 22:38:11 CEST 2012</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
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