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One of +the girls, Eline, was a foundling from Chongqing. She was very concerned +about her biological parents, always asking her adoptive mother, Wilma, +questions about them. + +Then Remi had to transfer work to Jocelyn. When he heard she came from +Chongqing, he told her about Eline. + +Jocelyn then said she'd try to find them. She did a tremendous job, she +contacted local media and even found a local television station that was +willing to broadcast the story about Eline at prime time. Later she put +up posters. Then she got help from a journalist who continued searching +and contacted her later, to tell her he though he'd found them. DNA +tests have proven he was right. + +Later when Eline's adoptive mother Wilma talked to Jocelyn, she was +amazed to hear that Jocelyn said that Remi had *asked* her to help find +the girl's parents, while Remi had always said that Jocelyn had +spontaneously *offered* her help. + +So Wilma inquired further. In fact, both told the same story: Remi had +told about Eline and Jocelyn had said she'd help find her Chinese parents. + +The only difference was in the interpretation: When Remi told about +Eline's wish to see her biological parents, Jocelyn interpreted that as +a request to go look for them, while for Remi it was just something he +told because of the coincidence that she came from the same region, +without expecting her to do anything. + +Wilma told us that in China it is normal to ask for things in an +indirect way. It is also what I read here: +<A HREF="http://www.chinainfo.nl/chpleaseE.html">http://www.chinainfo.nl/chpleaseE.html</A> +"When Chinese intend to ask a favor.........the most discrete, indirect +approach is used." + +For Eline the misunderstanding between Remi and Jocelyn turned out +really well, though. She is thriving a lot better since she met her +biological parents and stays in touch with them. :-D + +Oh, by the way: Jocelyn had studied in England, she knew the Western +culture. + +I don't know how long it would take me to learn to recognise indirect +requests or to ask for a favour in an indirect way, if I moved to China +today + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008227.html">[Mageia-discuss] Reusing ancient names ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008234.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: indirect request <---> direct request +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8233">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8233">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8233">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8233">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |