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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/2012-July/008202.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/2012-July/008202.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2ed357063 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/2012-July/008202.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: "Let your yes be yes" <---> "It is rude to say no" + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Cultural%20difference%3A%20%22Let%20your%20yes%20be%20yes%22%0A%20%3C---%3E%20%22It%20is%20rude%20to%20say%20no%22&In-Reply-To=%3C4FFF8C41.3020901%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="008195.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="008204.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: "Let your yes be yes" <---> "It is rude to say no"</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Cultural%20difference%3A%20%22Let%20your%20yes%20be%20yes%22%0A%20%3C---%3E%20%22It%20is%20rude%20to%20say%20no%22&In-Reply-To=%3C4FFF8C41.3020901%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: "Let your yes be yes" <---> "It is rude to say no"">andre999mga at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jul 13 04:47:29 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008195.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: "Let your yes be yes" <---> "It is rude to say no" +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: "Let your yes be yes" <---> "It is rude to say no" +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8202">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8202">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8202">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8202">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Marja van Waes a écrit : +><i> On 12/07/2012 21:06, Johnny A. Solbu wrote: +</I>>><i> On Thursday 12 July 2012 18:20, Marja van Waes wrote: +</I>>>><i> Now that is hard, when you grow up in a "no is rude" area and then move +</I>>>><i> to "Holland". You continue to say "yes", because saying "no" feels like +</I>>>><i> a major sin, but now you're expected to *do* all those thing you said +</I>>>><i> you'd do. :-( +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> But ofcorse you're expected to keep your promisses. If you know that +</I>>><i> you ain't goint to, or can't do it, why on earth do you promise to do +</I>>><i> it in the first place? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Excactly, that is what I thought, because I picked that up very fast. +</I>><i> So what I got into, was that I said yes and did yes, even if I +</I>><i> couldn't. So it could happen that I was doing the 100% tasks of 3 +</I>><i> persons at the same time. No, that didn't go well.. one time I was +</I>><i> continually answering the phone and the doorbell for an organisation, +</I>><i> cooking for 35 people at the same time and looking after two very +</I>><i> young children who were in a room that was dangerous to very young +</I>><i> children. At one point I answered the phone and couldn't make words +</I>><i> any more, what I said were senseless sounds +</I> +Yes, that I can believe of Marja ;) +(Which reminds me, my dutch aunt was a bit like that. She was always +hosting the family reunions, spending all her time taking care of +everyone else.) +><i> +</I>><i> It took very many years before I learnt that saying "no" isn't the +</I>><i> very evil thing I thought it was. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The reason I started this thread, is that I sometimes have the +</I>><i> impression that we have some contributors in Mageia, who haven't +</I>><i> really learnt to say "no" or "it is ready when it is ready" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Instead of telling them they are liars, I hope we'll have more +</I>><i> compassion on them. +</I>><i> I hope we'll ask: "Hey, what happened? Were you ill? Did you have too +</I>><i> much to do for your day time job? You said you'd finish this task +</I>><i> before last week and it still isn't finished" +</I>><i> +</I>Or just be more realistic. +Don't forget that often people will say yes because they would like to +do something, without seriously considering the various demands on their +time. They think it is a good idea, and they want to contribute. (I +tend to be somewhat like that.) +So it is not only people saying "yes" when they mean "no". +And once they have said "yes", like almost everyone, they find it more +difficult to say "no" later on. After all, they still think it is +something that should be done. + +So using the concept of "lying", those accusing others of "lying" could +be seen as largely stretching the truth. (Or simply being blind to +reality.) + +-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008195.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: "Let your yes be yes" <---> "It is rude to say no" +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cultural difference: "Let your yes be yes" <---> "It is rude to say no" +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8202">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8202">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8202">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8202">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |