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+ <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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+ <I>Fri Dec 9 04:31:20 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+&gt;<i> I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody having no
+</I>&gt;<i> apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>Hello!
+Some people like me more care about their wallets than patents.
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+ <B>Olav Dahlum</B>
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+<PRE>On 09/12/11 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> having no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+And personal grudges like that won't make Mageia better or the
+user base larger &#8230; Ignoring these suggestion will leave
+Mageia as just another hobbyist distribution with no roadmap.
+
+&#8211; Olav
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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Friday 09 December 2011 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> Some people like me more care about their wallets than patents.
+</I>
+If you don't care about patents you don't care about your wallet either. They are more closely linked that most people will admit.
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+<PRE>W dniu 09.12.2011 06:35, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+&gt;<i> On Friday 09 December 2011 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some people like me more care about their wallets than patents.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you don't care about patents you don't care about your wallet either. They are more closely linked that most people will admit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>And some people should read more precisely. Who and where said that I
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+You implied it.
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+&gt;<i> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> where said that I don't care about patents?
+</I>&gt;<i> You implied it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>No, you impute it.
+
+I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware
+that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know
+nobody who uses a MacBook - even if &quot;mac&quot; is _cool_, slim number of
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+&gt;<i> On Friday 09 December 2011 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some people like me more care about their wallets than patents.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you don't care about patents you don't care about your wallet either. They are more closely linked that most people will admit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yep, but let's not get too religious over this and count everyone
+holding software patents (I guess you meant those Johnny)
+as trolls. Software patents are in most cases used as bargaining chips
+or protection to avoid being caught in lengthy legal
+disputes with other holders of software patents. And these agreements
+might reflect in the cost of the products, as Johnny points out.
+If we do give in and are reluctant to implement functions covered by
+some US patents, then we're in fact validating the current situation and
+playing by their rules.
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+&#8211; Olav
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+&gt;<i> W dniu 09.12.2011 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> where said that I don't care about patents?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You implied it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, you impute it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware
+</I>&gt;<i> that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know
+</I>&gt;<i> nobody who uses a MacBook - even if &quot;mac&quot; is _cool_, slim number of
+</I>&gt;<i> people buy it.
+</I>
+Er, you might want to revise the whole personal computer statement.
+
+<A HREF="http://inventors.about.com/library/blcoindex.htm">http://inventors.about.com/library/blcoindex.htm</A>
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+<PRE>Am Freitag, 9. Dezember 2011, 06:17:44 schrieb Olav Dahlum:
+&gt;<i> On 09/12/11 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; having no
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And personal grudges like that won't make Mageia better or the
+</I>&gt;<i> user base larger &#8230; Ignoring these suggestion will leave
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia as just another hobbyist distribution with no roadmap.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I did not speak about adding that package to Mageia, as long as it's possible
+to do this (it's either OpenSource or at least redistributable).
+
+I just said, I personally don't care and won't do it, since I don't have an
+apple device and will never buy one for (mostly) &quot;political&quot; reasons.
+Although I have to admit, they are just too expensive as well.
+
+For me this discussion is closed, Shlomi did import it, so it's all right for
+the OP and nobody got hurt.
+My - rather rude - statement was just an answer to the claim of the OP that
+&quot;almost everybody owns an Apple device&quot;.
+
+And please, let's remember, although our core values include making the life
+easy for the end user (as Romain has pointed out), they also include the
+support for the larger OpenSource community - which in my eyes is the more
+important!
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+Oliver
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+&gt;<i> One of the user from Taiwan reported that he can't
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+</I>&gt;<i> get keyboard working with xrdp/tigervnc-server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mouse works, Some keys like Enter works, but
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> a~z, 1~0 don't.Any help?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Should be looked at, and could be fixed together when fixing
+tigervnc build, as we have an open security issue for it:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963</A>
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+Which was reported more than 5 months ago :(
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+&gt;<i> Am 07.12.2011 09:40, schrieb Kira:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One of the user from Taiwan reported that he can't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> get keyboard working with xrdp/tigervnc-server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mouse works, Some keys like Enter works, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a~z, 1~0 don't.Any help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Should be looked at, and could be fixed together when fixing
+</I>&gt;<i> tigervnc build, as we have an open security issue for it:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which was reported more than 5 months ago :(
+</I>So any progress about that?
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+<PRE>On 12/09/2011 01:16 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> W dniu 09.12.2011 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> where said that I don't care about patents?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You implied it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, you impute it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware
+</I>&gt;<i> that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know
+</I>&gt;<i> nobody who uses a MacBook - even if &quot;mac&quot; is _cool_, slim number of
+</I>&gt;<i> people buy it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Gee, you should get out more. I know at least four here locally, and I
+spend most of my time isolated on a farm. One is a cousin, another a
+neighbor, and the other two are longtime fiends.
+
+One used to be a PC guy, then Linux, and now is an Apple fan. He still
+likes Linux OK, but likes Apple better these days. (Shrug.) His choice.
+He keeps trying to get me to buy a Mac. When I plead expense, he points
+out that there are used/refurbished ones available, and that there's a
+LOT of low-cost/free Apple software around.
+
+Aside from the above former Linux user and my brother, who uses what I
+set up for him, I don't know any other local Linux users personally. And
+quite frankly, I don't have a clue as to what most of the people I know
+use, or even if many use a computer at all.
+
+TJ
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+<PRE>On 09/12/11 14:19, Kira wrote:
+&gt;<i> &#22312; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:01:49 +0800, Florian Hubold
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.12.2011 09:40, schrieb Kira:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> One of the user from Taiwan reported that he can't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> get keyboard working with xrdp/tigervnc-server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mouse works, Some keys like Enter works, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a~z, 1~0 don't.Any help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should be looked at, and could be fixed together when fixing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tigervnc build, as we have an open security issue for it:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which was reported more than 5 months ago :(
+</I>&gt;<i> So any progress about that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>atm, Dexter Morgan, the assignee, maintains 1111 packages, and he has 66
+bugs assigned to him that aren't resolved.
+
+I don't think he would object if someone offered to solve this bug for him.
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+&gt;<i> Am Freitag, 9. Dezember 2011, 06:17:44 schrieb Olav Dahlum:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/12/11 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> having no
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And personal grudges like that won't make Mageia better or the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> user base larger &#8230; Ignoring these suggestion will leave
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia as just another hobbyist distribution with no roadmap.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did not speak about adding that package to Mageia, as long as it's possible
+</I>&gt;<i> to do this (it's either OpenSource or at least redistributable).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just said, I personally don't care and won't do it, since I don't have an
+</I>&gt;<i> apple device and will never buy one for (mostly) &quot;political&quot; reasons.
+</I>&gt;<i> Although I have to admit, they are just too expensive as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For me this discussion is closed, Shlomi did import it, so it's all right for
+</I>&gt;<i> the OP and nobody got hurt.
+</I>&gt;<i> My - rather rude - statement was just an answer to the claim of the OP that
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;almost everybody owns an Apple device&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And please, let's remember, although our core values include making the life
+</I>&gt;<i> easy for the end user (as Romain has pointed out), they also include the
+</I>&gt;<i> support for the larger OpenSource community - which in my eyes is the more
+</I>&gt;<i> important!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+Thanks Oliver. I'm also a strong supporter of FLOSS, but also accepts
+the world
+as being far from perfect. ;-)
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+&gt;<i> On 09/12/11 10:05, Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am Freitag, 9. Dezember 2011, 06:17:44 schrieb Olav Dahlum:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/12/11 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> having no
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And personal grudges like that won't make Mageia better or the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> user base larger &#8230; Ignoring these suggestion will leave
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia as just another hobbyist distribution with no roadmap.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I did not speak about adding that package to Mageia, as long as it's possible
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to do this (it's either OpenSource or at least redistributable).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just said, I personally don't care and won't do it, since I don't have an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> apple device and will never buy one for (mostly) &quot;political&quot; reasons.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Although I have to admit, they are just too expensive as well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For me this discussion is closed, Shlomi did import it, so it's all right for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the OP and nobody got hurt.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My - rather rude - statement was just an answer to the claim of the OP that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;almost everybody owns an Apple device&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And please, let's remember, although our core values include making the life
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> easy for the end user (as Romain has pointed out), they also include the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> support for the larger OpenSource community - which in my eyes is the more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> important!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Oliver. I'm also a strong supporter of FLOSS, but also accepts
+</I>&gt;<i> the world
+</I>&gt;<i> as being far from perfect. ;-)
+</I>
+A bit like Thunderbird &#8230;
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+<PRE>W dniu 09.12.2011 15:24, TJ pisze:
+&gt;<i> On 12/09/2011 01:16 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> W dniu 09.12.2011 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> where said that I don't care about patents?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You implied it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, you impute it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nobody who uses a MacBook - even if &quot;mac&quot; is _cool_, slim number of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people buy it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Gee, you should get out more. I know at least four here locally, and I
+</I>&gt;<i> spend most of my time isolated on a farm. One is a cousin, another a
+</I>&gt;<i> neighbor, and the other two are longtime fiends.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One used to be a PC guy, then Linux, and now is an Apple fan. He still
+</I>&gt;<i> likes Linux OK, but likes Apple better these days. (Shrug.) His
+</I>&gt;<i> choice. He keeps trying to get me to buy a Mac. When I plead expense,
+</I>&gt;<i> he points out that there are used/refurbished ones available, and that
+</I>&gt;<i> there's a LOT of low-cost/free Apple software around.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Aside from the above former Linux user and my brother, who uses what I
+</I>&gt;<i> set up for him, I don't know any other local Linux users personally.
+</I>&gt;<i> And quite frankly, I don't have a clue as to what most of the people I
+</I>&gt;<i> know use, or even if many use a computer at all.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I see, well in my country mainly some artists (like graphic designers or
+movie makers) use Macs - I met 3 persons (but I'm not a friend of them)
+who had these computers, one was a designer of web sites, the second a
+graphic designer and the third.. an eccentric.
+
+<A HREF="http://ranking.pl/pl/rankings/operating-systems.html">http://ranking.pl/pl/rankings/operating-systems.html</A> shows that around
+0,8% computers with internet access in my country run under MacOS.. and
+this is nothing (I can simply point maybe 100 PCs with MS Windows
+without internet access.. and I don't think that if someone has some
+money to spend, and buys Mac hasn't access to internet). Also I don't
+know the current situation very well nowadays on the market, but some
+years ago there was totally no software for Macs.. and this eccentric
+proffessor had to run everything under a virtual machine with Windows...
+
+Well but this is a general off-topic here, my thesis is simple: usually
+people who don't have what to do with their wallets choose Macs.
+Probably in other countries Macs are relative cheaper and the situation
+is much different.
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+<PRE>On 09/12/11 16:40, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> W dniu 09.12.2011 15:24, TJ pisze:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 12/09/2011 01:16 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> W dniu 09.12.2011 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> where said that I don't care about patents?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You implied it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No, you impute it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nobody who uses a MacBook - even if &quot;mac&quot; is _cool_, slim number of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> people buy it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Gee, you should get out more. I know at least four here locally, and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> spend most of my time isolated on a farm. One is a cousin, another a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> neighbor, and the other two are longtime fiends.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One used to be a PC guy, then Linux, and now is an Apple fan. He still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> likes Linux OK, but likes Apple better these days. (Shrug.) His
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> choice. He keeps trying to get me to buy a Mac. When I plead expense,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> he points out that there are used/refurbished ones available, and that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there's a LOT of low-cost/free Apple software around.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Aside from the above former Linux user and my brother, who uses what I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> set up for him, I don't know any other local Linux users personally.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And quite frankly, I don't have a clue as to what most of the people I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know use, or even if many use a computer at all.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see, well in my country mainly some artists (like graphic designers or
+</I>&gt;<i> movie makers) use Macs - I met 3 persons (but I'm not a friend of them)
+</I>&gt;<i> who had these computers, one was a designer of web sites, the second a
+</I>&gt;<i> graphic designer and the third.. an eccentric.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ranking.pl/pl/rankings/operating-systems.html">http://ranking.pl/pl/rankings/operating-systems.html</A> shows that around
+</I>&gt;<i> 0,8% computers with internet access in my country run under MacOS.. and
+</I>&gt;<i> this is nothing (I can simply point maybe 100 PCs with MS Windows
+</I>&gt;<i> without internet access.. and I don't think that if someone has some
+</I>&gt;<i> money to spend, and buys Mac hasn't access to internet). Also I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> know the current situation very well nowadays on the market, but some
+</I>&gt;<i> years ago there was totally no software for Macs.. and this eccentric
+</I>&gt;<i> proffessor had to run everything under a virtual machine with Windows...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well but this is a general off-topic here, my thesis is simple: usually
+</I>&gt;<i> people who don't have what to do with their wallets choose Macs.
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably in other countries Macs are relative cheaper and the situation
+</I>&gt;<i> is much different.
+</I>
+You forgot the professional musician. After all, Microsoft Windows
+only became interesting for them in the recent years, as most
+software was MacOS only before that, or they was still on their
+Atari's (both Steinberg's Cubase and Emagic (former Notator Logic) Logic
+was originally only available on Atari. So to state that there was no
+software for MacOS are a bit daft.
+
+&#8211; Olav
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+<PRE>Am 09.12.2011 15:42, schrieb Marja van Waes:
+&gt;<i> On 09/12/11 14:19, Kira wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#22312; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:01:49 +0800, Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.12.2011 09:40, schrieb Kira:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> One of the user from Taiwan reported that he can't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> get keyboard working with xrdp/tigervnc-server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mouse works, Some keys like Enter works, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a~z, 1~0 don't.Any help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Should be looked at, and could be fixed together when fixing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tigervnc build, as we have an open security issue for it:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Which was reported more than 5 months ago :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So any progress about that?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> atm, Dexter Morgan, the assignee, maintains 1111 packages, and he has 66 bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> assigned to him that aren't resolved.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think he would object if someone offered to solve this bug for him.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Already looked at it and tried to fix it. The problem is, the package
+doesn't build at all as-is, because presumably it has been built last
+time against X-server 1.9 or 1.10, but it won't build against 1.11,
+even when adding the relevant patches.
+Somebody with more X-server knowledge should take a look at it ...
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+ <h1>9 December 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 04:31:20 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 18:39:29 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006035.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006038.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006040.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006044.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006045.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006047.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006048.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006052.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Dec 9 18:39:29 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 18:39:34 CET 2011</i>
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+ <h1>9 December 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 04:31:20 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 18:39:29 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006052.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006047.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006044.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006045.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006035.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006040.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006038.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006048.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Dec 9 18:39:29 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 18:39:34 CET 2011</i>
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+ <ul>
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+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 04:31:20 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 18:39:29 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01323401480- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006035.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01323401480-01323407864- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01323401480-01323407864-01323421513- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01323401480-01323407864-01323421513-01323445135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006048.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323401480-01323407864-01323421513-01323445135-01323445254- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01323401480-01323408903- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01323401480-01323408903-01323409505- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006038.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01323401480-01323408903-01323409505-01323409763- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323401480-01323408903-01323409505-01323409763-01323411392- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006040.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323401480-01323408903-01323409505-01323409763-01323411392-01323414497- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323401480-01323408903-01323409505-01323409763-01323411392-01323440658- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323401480-01323408903-01323409505-01323409763-01323411392-01323440658-01323445202- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006050.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01323401480-01323408903-01323409505-01323409763-01323411392-01323440658-01323445202-01323447640- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006051.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01323401480-01323408903-01323409748- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a &quot;Lion Friendly&quot; distribution?
+</A><A NAME="6041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Dahlum
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01323424909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006044.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01323424909-01323436760- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006045.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01323424909-01323436760-01323441750- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006047.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01323424909-01323436760-01323441750-01323452369- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006052.html">[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop
+</A><A NAME="6052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Dec 9 18:39:29 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Dec 9 18:39:34 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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