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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Kamil Rytarowski + n54 at gmx.com +
+ Fri Dec 9 04:31:20 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+> I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody having no
+> apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+> I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+>
+> Oliver
+Hello!
+Some people like me more care about their wallets than patents.
+
+Regards!
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Olav Dahlum + odahlum at gmail.com +
+ Fri Dec 9 06:17:44 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 09/12/11 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+> W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+>> I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody
+>> having no
+>> apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+>> I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+>>
+>> Oliver
+
+And personal grudges like that won't make Mageia better or the
+user base larger … Ignoring these suggestion will leave
+Mageia as just another hobbyist distribution with no roadmap.
+
+– Olav
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Johnny A. Solbu + cooker at solbu.net +
+ Fri Dec 9 06:35:03 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On Friday 09 December 2011 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+> Some people like me more care about their wallets than patents.
+
+If you don't care about patents you don't care about your wallet either. They are more closely linked that most people will admit.
+
+-- 
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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Kamil Rytarowski + n54 at gmx.com +
+ Fri Dec 9 06:45:05 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
W dniu 09.12.2011 06:35, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+> On Friday 09 December 2011 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>> Some people like me more care about their wallets than patents.
+> If you don't care about patents you don't care about your wallet either. They are more closely linked that most people will admit.
+>
+And some people should read more precisely. Who and where said that I 
+don't care about patents?
+
+ + + + + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Johnny A. Solbu + cooker at solbu.net +
+ Fri Dec 9 06:49:23 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+> where said that I don't care about patents?
+
+You implied it.
+
+-- 
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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Kamil Rytarowski + n54 at gmx.com +
+ Fri Dec 9 07:16:32 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
W dniu 09.12.2011 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>> where said that I don't care about patents?
+> You implied it.
+>
+No, you impute it.
+
+I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware 
+that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know 
+nobody who uses a MacBook - even if "mac" is _cool_, slim number of 
+people buy it.
+
+ + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Olav Dahlum + odahlum at broadpark.no +
+ Fri Dec 9 06:49:08 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 09/12/11 06:35, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+> On Friday 09 December 2011 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>> Some people like me more care about their wallets than patents.
+> 
+> If you don't care about patents you don't care about your wallet either. They are more closely linked that most people will admit.
+> 
+
+Yep, but let's not get too religious over this and count everyone
+holding software patents (I guess you meant those Johnny)
+as trolls. Software patents are in most cases used as bargaining chips
+or protection to avoid being caught in lengthy legal
+disputes with other holders of software patents. And these agreements
+might reflect in the cost of the products, as Johnny points out.
+If we do give in and are reluctant to implement functions covered by
+some US patents, then we're in fact validating the current situation and
+playing by their rules.
+
+– Olav
+
+ + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Olav Dahlum + odahlum at broadpark.no +
+ Fri Dec 9 08:08:17 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 09/12/11 07:16, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+> W dniu 09.12.2011 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+>> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>>> where said that I don't care about patents?
+>> You implied it.
+>>
+> No, you impute it.
+> 
+> I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware
+> that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know
+> nobody who uses a MacBook - even if "mac" is _cool_, slim number of
+> people buy it.
+
+Er, you might want to revise the whole personal computer statement.
+
+http://inventors.about.com/library/blcoindex.htm
+
+ + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Oliver Burger + oliver.bgr at googlemail.com +
+ Fri Dec 9 10:05:13 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Am Freitag, 9. Dezember 2011, 06:17:44 schrieb Olav Dahlum:
+> On 09/12/11 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+> > W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+> >> I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody
+> >> having no
+> >> apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+> >> I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+> >> 
+> >> Oliver
+> 
+> And personal grudges like that won't make Mageia better or the
+> user base larger … Ignoring these suggestion will leave
+> Mageia as just another hobbyist distribution with no roadmap.
+> 
+I did not speak about adding that package to Mageia, as long as it's possible 
+to do this (it's either OpenSource or at least redistributable).
+
+I just said, I personally don't care and won't do it, since I don't have an 
+apple device and will never buy one for (mostly) "political" reasons.
+Although I have to admit, they are just too expensive as well.
+
+For me this discussion is closed, Shlomi did import it, so it's all right for 
+the OP and nobody got hurt.
+My - rather rude - statement was just an answer to the claim of the OP that 
+"almost everybody owns an Apple device".
+
+And please, let's remember, although our core values include making the life 
+easy for the end user (as Romain has pointed out), they also include the 
+support for the larger OpenSource community - which in my eyes is the more 
+important!
+
+Oliver
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop

+ Florian Hubold + doktor5000 at arcor.de +
+ Fri Dec 9 11:01:49 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Am 07.12.2011 09:40, schrieb Kira:
+> One of the user from Taiwan reported that he can't
+>
+> get keyboard working with xrdp/tigervnc-server.
+>
+> Mouse works, Some keys like Enter works, but
+>
+> a~z, 1~0 don't.Any help?
+>
+Should be looked at, and could be fixed together when fixing
+tigervnc build, as we have an open security issue for it:
+https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963
+
+Which was reported more than 5 months ago :(
+
+ + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop

+ Kira + elegant.pegasus at gmail.com +
+ Fri Dec 9 14:19:20 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
在 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:01:49 +0800, Florian Hubold  
+<doktor5000 at arcor.de>寫道:
+
+> Am 07.12.2011 09:40, schrieb Kira:
+>> One of the user from Taiwan reported that he can't
+>>
+>> get keyboard working with xrdp/tigervnc-server.
+>>
+>> Mouse works, Some keys like Enter works, but
+>>
+>> a~z, 1~0 don't.Any help?
+>>
+> Should be looked at, and could be fixed together when fixing
+> tigervnc build, as we have an open security issue for it:
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963
+>
+> Which was reported more than 5 months ago :(
+So any progress about that?
+
+ + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ TJ + andrewsfarm at gmail.com +
+ Fri Dec 9 15:24:18 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 12/09/2011 01:16 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+> W dniu 09.12.2011 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+>> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>>> where said that I don't care about patents?
+>> You implied it.
+>>
+> No, you impute it.
+>
+> I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware
+> that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know
+> nobody who uses a MacBook - even if "mac" is _cool_, slim number of
+> people buy it.
+>
+Gee, you should get out more. I know at least four here locally, and I 
+spend most of my time isolated on a farm. One is a cousin, another a 
+neighbor, and the other two are longtime fiends.
+
+One used to be a PC guy, then Linux, and now is an Apple fan. He still 
+likes Linux OK, but likes Apple better these days. (Shrug.) His choice. 
+He keeps trying to get me to buy a Mac. When I plead expense, he points 
+out that there are used/refurbished ones available, and that there's a 
+LOT of low-cost/free Apple software around.
+
+Aside from the above former Linux user and my brother, who uses what I 
+set up for him, I don't know any other local Linux users personally. And 
+quite frankly, I don't have a clue as to what most of the people I know 
+use, or even if many use a computer at all.
+
+TJ
+
+
+ + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop

+ Marja van Waes + marja11 at xs4all.nl +
+ Fri Dec 9 15:42:30 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 09/12/11 14:19, Kira wrote:
+> 在 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:01:49 +0800, Florian Hubold 
+> <doktor5000 at arcor.de>寫道:
+>
+>> Am 07.12.2011 09:40, schrieb Kira:
+>>> One of the user from Taiwan reported that he can't
+>>>
+>>> get keyboard working with xrdp/tigervnc-server.
+>>>
+>>> Mouse works, Some keys like Enter works, but
+>>>
+>>> a~z, 1~0 don't.Any help?
+>>>
+>> Should be looked at, and could be fixed together when fixing
+>> tigervnc build, as we have an open security issue for it:
+>> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963
+>>
+>> Which was reported more than 5 months ago :(
+> So any progress about that?
+>
+atm, Dexter Morgan, the assignee, maintains 1111 packages, and he has 66 
+bugs assigned to him that aren't resolved.
+
+I don't think he would object if someone offered to solve this bug for him.
+
+
+ + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Olav Dahlum + odahlum at broadpark.no +
+ Fri Dec 9 16:38:55 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 09/12/11 10:05, Oliver Burger wrote:
+> Am Freitag, 9. Dezember 2011, 06:17:44 schrieb Olav Dahlum:
+>> On 09/12/11 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>>> W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+>>>> I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody
+>>>> having no
+>>>> apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+>>>> I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+>>>>
+>>>> Oliver
+>>
+>> And personal grudges like that won't make Mageia better or the
+>> user base larger … Ignoring these suggestion will leave
+>> Mageia as just another hobbyist distribution with no roadmap.
+>>
+> I did not speak about adding that package to Mageia, as long as it's possible 
+> to do this (it's either OpenSource or at least redistributable).
+> 
+> I just said, I personally don't care and won't do it, since I don't have an 
+> apple device and will never buy one for (mostly) "political" reasons.
+> Although I have to admit, they are just too expensive as well.
+> 
+> For me this discussion is closed, Shlomi did import it, so it's all right for 
+> the OP and nobody got hurt.
+> My - rather rude - statement was just an answer to the claim of the OP that 
+> "almost everybody owns an Apple device".
+> 
+> And please, let's remember, although our core values include making the life 
+> easy for the end user (as Romain has pointed out), they also include the 
+> support for the larger OpenSource community - which in my eyes is the more 
+> important!
+> 
+> Oliver
+
+Thanks Oliver. I'm also a strong supporter of FLOSS, but also accepts
+the world
+as being far from perfect. ;-)
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Olav Dahlum + odahlum at gmail.com +
+ Fri Dec 9 16:40:54 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 09/12/11 16:38, Olav Dahlum wrote:
+> On 09/12/11 10:05, Oliver Burger wrote:
+>> Am Freitag, 9. Dezember 2011, 06:17:44 schrieb Olav Dahlum:
+>>> On 09/12/11 04:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>>>> W dniu 05.12.2011 15:15, Oliver Burger pisze:
+>>>>> I personally don't care because I seem not to be almost everybody
+>>>>> having no
+>>>>> apple device and having no intent to ever buy one.
+>>>>> I'm not about to give money to the worst patent troll out there...
+>>>>>
+>>>>> Oliver
+>>>
+>>> And personal grudges like that won't make Mageia better or the
+>>> user base larger … Ignoring these suggestion will leave
+>>> Mageia as just another hobbyist distribution with no roadmap.
+>>>
+>> I did not speak about adding that package to Mageia, as long as it's possible 
+>> to do this (it's either OpenSource or at least redistributable).
+>>
+>> I just said, I personally don't care and won't do it, since I don't have an 
+>> apple device and will never buy one for (mostly) "political" reasons.
+>> Although I have to admit, they are just too expensive as well.
+>>
+>> For me this discussion is closed, Shlomi did import it, so it's all right for 
+>> the OP and nobody got hurt.
+>> My - rather rude - statement was just an answer to the claim of the OP that 
+>> "almost everybody owns an Apple device".
+>>
+>> And please, let's remember, although our core values include making the life 
+>> easy for the end user (as Romain has pointed out), they also include the 
+>> support for the larger OpenSource community - which in my eyes is the more 
+>> important!
+>>
+>> Oliver
+> 
+> Thanks Oliver. I'm also a strong supporter of FLOSS, but also accepts
+> the world
+> as being far from perfect. ;-)
+
+A bit like Thunderbird …
+
+ + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Kamil Rytarowski + n54 at gmx.com +
+ Fri Dec 9 16:40:02 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
W dniu 09.12.2011 15:24, TJ pisze:
+> On 12/09/2011 01:16 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>> W dniu 09.12.2011 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+>>> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>>>> where said that I don't care about patents?
+>>> You implied it.
+>>>
+>> No, you impute it.
+>>
+>> I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware
+>> that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know
+>> nobody who uses a MacBook - even if "mac" is _cool_, slim number of
+>> people buy it.
+>>
+> Gee, you should get out more. I know at least four here locally, and I 
+> spend most of my time isolated on a farm. One is a cousin, another a 
+> neighbor, and the other two are longtime fiends.
+>
+> One used to be a PC guy, then Linux, and now is an Apple fan. He still 
+> likes Linux OK, but likes Apple better these days. (Shrug.) His 
+> choice. He keeps trying to get me to buy a Mac. When I plead expense, 
+> he points out that there are used/refurbished ones available, and that 
+> there's a LOT of low-cost/free Apple software around.
+>
+> Aside from the above former Linux user and my brother, who uses what I 
+> set up for him, I don't know any other local Linux users personally. 
+> And quite frankly, I don't have a clue as to what most of the people I 
+> know use, or even if many use a computer at all.
+>
+> TJ
+>
+I see, well in my country mainly some artists (like graphic designers or 
+movie makers) use Macs - I met 3 persons (but I'm not a friend of them) 
+who had these computers, one was a designer of web sites, the second a 
+graphic designer and the third.. an eccentric.
+
+http://ranking.pl/pl/rankings/operating-systems.html shows that around 
+0,8% computers with internet access in my country run under MacOS.. and 
+this is nothing (I can simply point maybe 100 PCs with MS Windows 
+without internet access.. and I don't think that if someone has some 
+money to spend, and buys Mac hasn't access to internet). Also I don't 
+know the current situation very well nowadays on the market, but some 
+years ago there was totally no software for Macs.. and this eccentric 
+proffessor had to run everything under a virtual machine with Windows...
+
+Well but this is a general off-topic here, my thesis is simple: usually 
+people who don't have what to do with their wallets choose Macs. 
+Probably in other countries Macs are relative cheaper and the situation 
+is much different.
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Why Mageia isn't a "Lion Friendly" distribution?

+ Olav Dahlum + odahlum at broadpark.no +
+ Fri Dec 9 17:20:40 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 09/12/11 16:40, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+> W dniu 09.12.2011 15:24, TJ pisze:
+>> On 12/09/2011 01:16 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>>> W dniu 09.12.2011 06:49, Johnny A. Solbu pisze:
+>>>> On Friday 09 December 2011 06:45, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+>>>>> where said that I don't care about patents?
+>>>> You implied it.
+>>>>
+>>> No, you impute it.
+>>>
+>>> I more prefer classic PC for its price than corresponding Apple hardware
+>>> that is twice more expensive. And I'm not alone, I personally know
+>>> nobody who uses a MacBook - even if "mac" is _cool_, slim number of
+>>> people buy it.
+>>>
+>> Gee, you should get out more. I know at least four here locally, and I
+>> spend most of my time isolated on a farm. One is a cousin, another a
+>> neighbor, and the other two are longtime fiends.
+>>
+>> One used to be a PC guy, then Linux, and now is an Apple fan. He still
+>> likes Linux OK, but likes Apple better these days. (Shrug.) His
+>> choice. He keeps trying to get me to buy a Mac. When I plead expense,
+>> he points out that there are used/refurbished ones available, and that
+>> there's a LOT of low-cost/free Apple software around.
+>>
+>> Aside from the above former Linux user and my brother, who uses what I
+>> set up for him, I don't know any other local Linux users personally.
+>> And quite frankly, I don't have a clue as to what most of the people I
+>> know use, or even if many use a computer at all.
+>>
+>> TJ
+>>
+> I see, well in my country mainly some artists (like graphic designers or
+> movie makers) use Macs - I met 3 persons (but I'm not a friend of them)
+> who had these computers, one was a designer of web sites, the second a
+> graphic designer and the third.. an eccentric.
+> 
+> http://ranking.pl/pl/rankings/operating-systems.html shows that around
+> 0,8% computers with internet access in my country run under MacOS.. and
+> this is nothing (I can simply point maybe 100 PCs with MS Windows
+> without internet access.. and I don't think that if someone has some
+> money to spend, and buys Mac hasn't access to internet). Also I don't
+> know the current situation very well nowadays on the market, but some
+> years ago there was totally no software for Macs.. and this eccentric
+> proffessor had to run everything under a virtual machine with Windows...
+> 
+> Well but this is a general off-topic here, my thesis is simple: usually
+> people who don't have what to do with their wallets choose Macs.
+> Probably in other countries Macs are relative cheaper and the situation
+> is much different.
+
+You forgot the professional musician. After all, Microsoft Windows
+only became interesting for them in the recent years, as most
+software was MacOS only before that, or they was still on their
+Atari's (both Steinberg's Cubase and Emagic (former Notator Logic) Logic
+was originally only available on Atari. So to state that there was no
+software for MacOS are a bit daft.
+
+– Olav
+
+ + +
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[Mageia-discuss] No keyboard using xrdp when using remote desktop

+ Florian Hubold + doktor5000 at arcor.de +
+ Fri Dec 9 18:39:29 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Am 09.12.2011 15:42, schrieb Marja van Waes:
+> On 09/12/11 14:19, Kira wrote:
+>> 在 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:01:49 +0800, Florian Hubold <doktor5000 at arcor.de>寫道:
+>>
+>>> Am 07.12.2011 09:40, schrieb Kira:
+>>>> One of the user from Taiwan reported that he can't
+>>>>
+>>>> get keyboard working with xrdp/tigervnc-server.
+>>>>
+>>>> Mouse works, Some keys like Enter works, but
+>>>>
+>>>> a~z, 1~0 don't.Any help?
+>>>>
+>>> Should be looked at, and could be fixed together when fixing
+>>> tigervnc build, as we have an open security issue for it:
+>>> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1963
+>>>
+>>> Which was reported more than 5 months ago :(
+>> So any progress about that?
+>>
+> atm, Dexter Morgan, the assignee, maintains 1111 packages, and he has 66 bugs
+> assigned to him that aren't resolved.
+>
+> I don't think he would object if someone offered to solve this bug for him.
+>
+>
+Already looked at it and tried to fix it. The problem is, the package
+doesn't build at all as-is, because presumably it has been built last
+time against X-server 1.9 or 1.10, but it won't build against 1.11,
+even when adding the relevant patches.
+Somebody with more X-server knowledge should take a look at it ...
+
+ + +
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