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+ <B>Juan R. de Silva</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.">juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com
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+ <I>Wed Sep 21 03:52:21 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hey folks,
+
+I do not know if it could be seen as a kind of a contribution...
+
+I installed Mageia 1 almost as soon as it was released for evaluation
+purposes on Dell Latitude d820. Mine is a multiboot environment with
+several distros like Ubuntu Lucid, Fedora 15, Arch, SL 6.1, and a couple
+of others installed.
+
+I kept playing with it from time to time (my main systems for now are
+Ubuntu Lucid on laptop, and Debian Squeeze on my workstation). I should
+say I was quite impressed, especially considering short time Mageia
+exists.
+
+Then troubles started. On one of next system updates I had these:
+
+Sorry, the following packages cannot be selected:
+
+- kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-1.1.mga1.i586 (due to conflicts with soprano-
+plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+- kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+- task-kde4-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch
+- task-kde4-minimal-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch (due to conflicts with soprano-
+plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+
+google provided with one link only. It was Mageia forum, not exactly my
+case but had enough to be considered helpful.
+
+'rpm -e --nodeps soprano-plugin-virtuoso' revealled the plugin was not
+installed at all. A little weird, update conflicting with a not installed
+packages, &quot;never mind&quot; I said.
+
+After run 'urpmi soprano-plugin-virtuoso' and installing the plugin I
+happily get get rid of almost all the above warnings. But still had this
+one:
+
+Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+
+- kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+
+Well, that was quite a progress.
+
+I run 'urpmi kipi-plugins-expoblending' and on the next update attempt I
+did not get any restricting warnings/errors. So far so good. Finally I
+could proceed with the update.
+
+It seemed to complete well: no warnings, no errors. Except one little
+dirty thing - the system failed to boot after restart. It stuck at GRUB
+prompt with no errors displayed, just a word &quot;GRUB&quot;. No reaction on any
+key, not 'e', not 'c', not 'shift' button, not any others. Not even Ctl-
+Alt-Del. The only way to get out of there was pressing Power Off button.
+
+Booting from SystemRescueCD and reinstalling grub helped nothing. Plain
+dead system.
+
+But this was a climax. I get to the Mageia forum, trying to search for a
+clue and get this:
+
+&quot;Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few
+minutes.&quot;
+
+And no, folks, I've not reported any bugs. Sorry, far to many... :-( At
+the end I did not try to anything funny here. Just a regular system
+update.
+
+
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+<PRE>Hello - just as a &quot;dont giveup&quot; message: My production system on my Dell
+Latidude D820 (also multi-boot) is Mageia 1 - no hicks whatever (all
+updates installed up to yesterday).
+
+However, I use a particular install procedure: start with a minimal KDE
+install and post-install (script) all the additional packages needed
+once the minimal system is up - evidently my mix of &quot;needed&quot; packages is
+different from yours (though: I have all the packages your error
+messages documents as fighting each other - same release - peacefully
+coexisting).
+
+Others can probably give you more competent advice how to get out of the
+update mess. If I would have these error messages, I would completely
+dis-install and newly install KDE - or even do a fresh install, might be
+less time consuming than trying to understand and correct what really
+happened to your system.
+
+Juergen
+</PRE>
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+ <B>blind Pete</B>
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+<PRE>on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:26
+in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.user
+Florian Hubold wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Am 19.09.2011 08:06, schrieb blind Pete:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:08
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 18.09.2011 07:01, schrieb blind Pete:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:15
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.user
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> TJ wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/16/2011 06:56 AM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [snip]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did you check that the printer itself prints a testpage correct
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and not that maybe the ink cardridge is dried in?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Agreed. If you haven't checked it, try making a black copy. I know that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if I don't use my Officejet for 2-3 months, the black can stop flowing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Generally, removing the cartridge and dabbing the nozzle area with a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> damp paper towel is all that's needed to get it going again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How could I test that the printer itself is working? That is what the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Test Page&quot; is for.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> From some distributions (Fedora 14, I think) it does print black, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that was missing something else - text I think.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Look at the manual, normally you hold down one key during powerup of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the printer, and it starts to print a selftest, which is builtin to the printer
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> itself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can also print a diagnosis page with supply materials information
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and how many pages the printer already did and such. Should be in the manual.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you can't find it, report back here and i'll find it for you.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are two &quot;manuals&quot;. One is a sheet of paper and the other is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> slightly better. Also, there is a CD. I can't even get an alignment
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> page printed. :-(
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Check:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I><A HREF="http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&amp;cc=us&amp;taskId=110&amp;">http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&amp;cc=us&amp;taskId=110&amp;</A>
+prodSeriesId=4027462&amp;prodTypeId=18972&amp;prodSeriesId=4027462&amp;objectID=c02061863
+
+Mentions both Windows and Mac.
+
+&gt;<i> Method one: From the product control panel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Make sure there is plain white, letter-size paper loaded in the input tray.
+</I>
+I hope that A4 is near enough.
+
+&gt;<i> 2. On the product control panel, hold down the Power button (O), and then
+</I>&gt;<i> press the Cancel button (X) once.
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Release the Power button.
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. The self-test report prints.
+</I>
+No success on that sequence.
+
+&gt;<i> The link i gave also explains which cartridge prints what on that self-test page
+</I>&gt;<i> and common printing defects.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But IIRC you should also be able to do some maintenance (cleaning nozzles,
+</I>&gt;<i> align ink cartridges) from one of the hplip tools (hp-toolbox or so)
+</I>
+I have no idea which rpm it is in, or what the executable files are
+called, but there is a HP tool in the main menu structure.
+
+It would appear that the black cartridge _partially_ works. I have
+tried to clean it. Everything _might_ be fine if I just buy another
+black cartridge. ...then again, the printer as a whole has not
+been proved to work.
+
+The local pricing structure is that the manufacturers give away
+low end printers when you buy two cartridges. So, it is time
+to print some &quot;ordinary&quot; stuff and if it works well enough
+buy a black cartridge, or a printer.
+
+&gt;<i> If all doesn't work: Can you copy a page with colors and black directly on your
+</I>&gt;<i> printer?
+</I>&gt;<i> Does the copy come out OK?
+</I>
+Color photocopies look OK, black ones (sometimes) come out white.
+
+
+--
+blind Pete
+Sig goes here...
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+ <B>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m</B>
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+<PRE>onsdagen den 21 september 2011 03.52.21 skrev Juan R. de Silva:
+
+&gt;<i> 'rpm -e --nodeps soprano-plugin-virtuoso' revealled the plugin was not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed at all. A little weird, update conflicting with a not installed
+</I>&gt;<i> packages,
+</I>
+try rebuilding the rpm database. IIRC it is:
+
+rpm --rebuilddb
+
+Some years ago i too ended up in some unsolvable circular knot on rpm
+dependencies, and then I managed to use smart package manager to solve it.
+
+That is all I can say, I om no whiz at rpm problems
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+<PRE>Am 21.09.2011 07:24, schrieb blind Pete:
+&gt;<i> on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:26
+</I>&gt;<i> in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.user
+</I>&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 19.09.2011 08:06, schrieb blind Pete:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:08
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.user
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 18.09.2011 07:01, schrieb blind Pete:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:15
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.user
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> TJ wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 09/16/2011 06:56 AM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [snip]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did you check that the printer itself prints a testpage correct
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and not that maybe the ink cardridge is dried in?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Agreed. If you haven't checked it, try making a black copy. I know that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if I don't use my Officejet for 2-3 months, the black can stop flowing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Generally, removing the cartridge and dabbing the nozzle area with a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> damp paper towel is all that's needed to get it going again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How could I test that the printer itself is working? That is what the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Test Page&quot; is for.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> From some distributions (Fedora 14, I think) it does print black, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that was missing something else - text I think.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Look at the manual, normally you hold down one key during powerup of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the printer, and it starts to print a selftest, which is builtin to the printer
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> itself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can also print a diagnosis page with supply materials information
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and how many pages the printer already did and such. Should be in the manual.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you can't find it, report back here and i'll find it for you.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There are two &quot;manuals&quot;. One is a sheet of paper and the other is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> slightly better. Also, there is a CD. I can't even get an alignment
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> page printed. :-(
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Check:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&amp;cc=us&amp;taskId=110&amp;">http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&amp;cc=us&amp;taskId=110&amp;</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> prodSeriesId=4027462&amp;prodTypeId=18972&amp;prodSeriesId=4027462&amp;objectID=c02061863
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mentions both Windows and Mac.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Method one: From the product control panel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Make sure there is plain white, letter-size paper loaded in the input tray.
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope that A4 is near enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. On the product control panel, hold down the Power button (O), and then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> press the Cancel button (X) once.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. Release the Power button.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4. The self-test report prints.
+</I>&gt;<i> No success on that sequence.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The link i gave also explains which cartridge prints what on that self-test page
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and common printing defects.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But IIRC you should also be able to do some maintenance (cleaning nozzles,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> align ink cartridges) from one of the hplip tools (hp-toolbox or so)
+</I>&gt;<i> I have no idea which rpm it is in, or what the executable files are
+</I>&gt;<i> called, but there is a HP tool in the main menu structure.
+</I>It's inside hp-gui, which is always installed for an HP printer.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would appear that the black cartridge _partially_ works. I have
+</I>&gt;<i> tried to clean it. Everything _might_ be fine if I just buy another
+</I>&gt;<i> black cartridge. ...then again, the printer as a whole has not
+</I>&gt;<i> been proved to work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The local pricing structure is that the manufacturers give away
+</I>&gt;<i> low end printers when you buy two cartridges. So, it is time
+</I>&gt;<i> to print some &quot;ordinary&quot; stuff and if it works well enough
+</I>&gt;<i> buy a black cartridge, or a printer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If all doesn't work: Can you copy a page with colors and black directly on your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> printer?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Does the copy come out OK?
+</I>&gt;<i> Color photocopies look OK, black ones (sometimes) come out white.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Then you definitely got a problem with the black cartridge or the printhead.
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+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+<PRE>On 21/09/11 02:52, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hey folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not know if it could be seen as a kind of a contribution...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I installed Mageia 1 almost as soon as it was released for evaluation
+</I>&gt;<i> purposes on Dell Latitude d820. Mine is a multiboot environment with
+</I>&gt;<i> several distros like Ubuntu Lucid, Fedora 15, Arch, SL 6.1, and a couple
+</I>&gt;<i> of others installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I kept playing with it from time to time (my main systems for now are
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu Lucid on laptop, and Debian Squeeze on my workstation). I should
+</I>&gt;<i> say I was quite impressed, especially considering short time Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> exists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then troubles started. On one of next system updates I had these:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, the following packages cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-1.1.mga1.i586 (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> - task-kde4-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> - task-kde4-minimal-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> google provided with one link only. It was Mageia forum, not exactly my
+</I>&gt;<i> case but had enough to be considered helpful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 'rpm -e --nodeps soprano-plugin-virtuoso' revealled the plugin was not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed at all. A little weird, update conflicting with a not installed
+</I>&gt;<i> packages, &quot;never mind&quot; I said.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After run 'urpmi soprano-plugin-virtuoso' and installing the plugin I
+</I>&gt;<i> happily get get rid of almost all the above warnings. But still had this
+</I>&gt;<i> one:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that was quite a progress.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I run 'urpmi kipi-plugins-expoblending' and on the next update attempt I
+</I>&gt;<i> did not get any restricting warnings/errors. So far so good. Finally I
+</I>&gt;<i> could proceed with the update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seemed to complete well: no warnings, no errors. Except one little
+</I>&gt;<i> dirty thing - the system failed to boot after restart. It stuck at GRUB
+</I>&gt;<i> prompt with no errors displayed, just a word &quot;GRUB&quot;. No reaction on any
+</I>&gt;<i> key, not 'e', not 'c', not 'shift' button, not any others. Not even Ctl-
+</I>&gt;<i> Alt-Del. The only way to get out of there was pressing Power Off button.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Booting from SystemRescueCD and reinstalling grub helped nothing. Plain
+</I>&gt;<i> dead system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this was a climax. I get to the Mageia forum, trying to search for a
+</I>&gt;<i> clue and get this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And no, folks, I've not reported any bugs. Sorry, far to many... :-( At
+</I>&gt;<i> the end I did not try to anything funny here. Just a regular system
+</I>&gt;<i> update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is a known bug, it *should* be solved now.
+
+There is a bug report at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097</A>
+
+It was quite a bad bug as it did break the update but it brought to
+light the now infamous bug 2317 -
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A> - which all updates have to
+be checked against.
+
+We have begun linking any required packages into updates media to
+prevent any recurrence of that unfortunate incident. If any do slip
+through the net then the affect you will see is that MageiaUpdate will
+give an error saying a certain package cannot be selected. Please do
+report this if you experience it!
+
+This only affects MageiaUpdate, so you can still perform the update from
+the command line as root (urpmi --auto-update) or by installing the
+updated packages in rpmdrake instead.
+
+Hopefully we are on top of this now though and a permanent solution is
+being worked on behind the scenes.
+
+Sorry if you had a bad experience with this.
+
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+ <B>Marja van Waes</B>
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+ <I>Wed Sep 21 11:48:48 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi David,
+
+Do you have a FAQ about testing, or a How-to?
+
+Regards,
+Marja
+
+
+Op 20-09-11 10:01, David W. Hodgins schreef:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need help testing siproxd on both i586 and x86-64.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2444">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2444</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To test it, it's best if you have a system with two interface
+</I>&gt;<i> cards. One connected to the internet, and the other to a lan.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then, after installing siproxd, have a computer on the lan
+</I>&gt;<i> use the host with siproxd installed as a sip: proxy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you need help figuring out out to test it, reply here, or
+</I>&gt;<i> in the bug report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, Dave Hodgins
+</I>
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Juergen Harms</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> did you check the md5sum of the iso after downloading it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>No, in truth have never checked iso images; if it doesn't work, I try
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+On 09/20/2011 04:27 PM, Gary Montalbine wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&gt;<i> I played some more. My printer is now working. At least I was able to
+</I>&gt;<i> print a test page. Print ass't was present
+</I>&gt;<i> in gwenview. I did not try it yet because I need to import the samples I
+</I>&gt;<i> used before. I am going to try the minimum install as you suggested, and
+</I>&gt;<i> then try gwenview.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, Gary
+</I>
+I have installed mageia on a USB flash drive. I tried to access my hard
+drive with my ML2010.2 /home directory. However I was unable to so so. I
+got unknown url. How can I access my files in my home directory on the
+hard drive?
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+Montalbine who wrote:
+&gt;<i> I have installed mageia on a USB flash drive. I tried to access my hard
+</I>&gt;<i> drive with my ML2010.2 /home directory. However I was unable to so so. I
+</I>&gt;<i> got unknown url. How can I access my files in my home directory on the
+</I>&gt;<i> hard drive?
+</I>
+Run (as root) diskdrake in expert mode;
+find your /home or ~ partition on the HD, choose Mount point, give it a name
+like /home/MyOtherHome and mount it; you may have to run (again as root) a
+chown -r mylogn:mylogin /home/MyOtherHome to be able to access it
+(and remember to chown it back when finished, to access it in ML)
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket
+ and rejoices that the system works.
+
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 21 september 2011 11:32:24 schreef Claire Robinson:
+&gt;<i> On 21/09/11 02:52, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hey folks,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I do not know if it could be seen as a kind of a contribution...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I installed Mageia 1 almost as soon as it was released for evaluation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; purposes on Dell Latitude d820. Mine is a multiboot environment with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; several distros like Ubuntu Lucid, Fedora 15, Arch, SL 6.1, and a couple
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of others installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I kept playing with it from time to time (my main systems for now are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ubuntu Lucid on laptop, and Debian Squeeze on my workstation). I should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; say I was quite impressed, especially considering short time Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exists.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then troubles started. On one of next system updates I had these:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry, the following packages cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-1.1.mga1.i586 (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - task-kde4-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - task-kde4-minimal-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; google provided with one link only. It was Mageia forum, not exactly my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; case but had enough to be considered helpful.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 'rpm -e --nodeps soprano-plugin-virtuoso' revealled the plugin was not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installed at all. A little weird, update conflicting with a not installed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages, &quot;never mind&quot; I said.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; After run 'urpmi soprano-plugin-virtuoso' and installing the plugin I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; happily get get rid of almost all the above warnings. But still had this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; one:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well, that was quite a progress.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I run 'urpmi kipi-plugins-expoblending' and on the next update attempt I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; did not get any restricting warnings/errors. So far so good. Finally I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could proceed with the update.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It seemed to complete well: no warnings, no errors. Except one little
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dirty thing - the system failed to boot after restart. It stuck at GRUB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; prompt with no errors displayed, just a word &quot;GRUB&quot;. No reaction on any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; key, not 'e', not 'c', not 'shift' button, not any others. Not even Ctl-
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Alt-Del. The only way to get out of there was pressing Power Off button.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Booting from SystemRescueCD and reinstalling grub helped nothing. Plain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dead system.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But this was a climax. I get to the Mageia forum, trying to search for a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; clue and get this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; minutes.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And no, folks, I've not reported any bugs. Sorry, far to many... :-( At
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the end I did not try to anything funny here. Just a regular system
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a known bug, it *should* be solved now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a bug report at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was quite a bad bug as it did break the update but it brought to
+</I>&gt;<i> light the now infamous bug 2317 -
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A> - which all updates have to
+</I>&gt;<i> be checked against.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have begun linking any required packages into updates media to
+</I>&gt;<i> prevent any recurrence of that unfortunate incident. If any do slip
+</I>&gt;<i> through the net then the affect you will see is that MageiaUpdate will
+</I>&gt;<i> give an error saying a certain package cannot be selected. Please do
+</I>&gt;<i> report this if you experience it!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This only affects MageiaUpdate, so you can still perform the update from
+</I>&gt;<i> the command line as root (urpmi --auto-update) or by installing the
+</I>&gt;<i> updated packages in rpmdrake instead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hopefully we are on top of this now though and a permanent solution is
+</I>&gt;<i> being worked on behind the scenes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry if you had a bad experience with this.
+</I>
+Also <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2070">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2070</A>
+
+again, if there is bugs, try to confirm or give help.
+
+btw: with the grub issue it would be interesting if you could report it and
+post the /root/drakx/install.log file in it. perhaps something odd happened
+during the install.
+
+btw: was it installed using DVD or liveCD?
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+ <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B>
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+ <I>Wed Sep 21 20:37:31 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+As suggested by this mail's object, I am looking for contributors to
+the Mageia project who live near Rennes, in France.
+Actually, a friend of mine from the CS school Supinfo would like to
+organise some kind of informal Free/Open-Source event with talks from
+Free software developers/contributors, to raise awareness of this wide
+world. There could also be an install party at the same time.
+
+This is still a project, but we'd like to see if there are Mageia
+people in this area.
+
+Regards,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ <I>Wed Sep 21 21:38:35 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/9/21 R&#233;mi Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remi at verschelde.fr</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> As suggested by this mail's object, I am looking for contributors to
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mageia project who live near Rennes, in France.
+</I>
+I just moved to Nantes, it's not &quot;just next to&quot; Rennes, but I may jump
+there occasionally.
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Balcaen John</B>
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+<PRE>Le Mercredi 21 Septembre 2011 21:38:35 Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2011/9/21 R&#233;mi Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remi at verschelde.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As suggested by this mail's object, I am looking for contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to the Mageia project who live near Rennes, in France.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just moved to Nantes, it's not &quot;just next to&quot; Rennes, but I may jump
+</I>&gt;<i> there occasionally.
+</I>Don't forget to buy an umbrella ;o)
+
+--
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 21 Sep 2011 16:01 my mailbox was graced by a message from Balcaen
+John who wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; As suggested by this mail's object, I am looking for contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to the Mageia project who live near Rennes, in France.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> &gt; I just moved to Nantes, it's not &quot;just next to&quot; Rennes, but I may jump
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there occasionally.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Don't forget to buy an umbrella ;o)
+</I>
+Dont exagerate, weather in Rennes is a lot drier than in nearby Ploermel ;-3)
+
+I know, I spent years in Prepa at Lycee Chateaubriand, before moving on the
+Coetquidan !
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Et vivre la lumi&#232;re
+ Suppose d'ombre
+ Une morne moiti&#233;.
+ -- Paul Val&#233;ry
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 21 septembre 2011 22:01:02, Balcaen John a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le Mercredi 21 Septembre 2011 21:38:35 Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/9/21 R&#233;mi Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">remi at verschelde.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; As suggested by this mail's object, I am looking for contributors
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to the Mageia project who live near Rennes, in France.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I just moved to Nantes, it's not &quot;just next to&quot; Rennes, but I may jump
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there occasionally.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't forget to buy an umbrella ;o)
+</I>Umbrella is certainlly for Nantes as said Barbara not for Rennes :-)
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+<LI><A HREF="005422.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
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+<LI><A HREF="005428.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
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+<LI><A HREF="005425.html">[Mageia-discuss] HP all in one DeskJet 1050 J410
+</A><A NAME="5425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
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+<LI><A HREF="005435.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005424.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
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+<LI><A HREF="005430.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia minimal install
+</A><A NAME="5430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005431.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia minimal install
+</A><A NAME="5431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005436.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="005423.html">[Mageia-discuss] HP all in one DeskJet 1050 J410
+</A><A NAME="5423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
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+<LI><A HREF="005426.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
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+<LI><A HREF="005421.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
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+<LI><A HREF="005432.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
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+</A><A NAME="5433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
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+
+<LI><A HREF="005427.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5427">&nbsp;</A>
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+</A><A NAME="5434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="005429.html">[Mageia-discuss] installation failures
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+<I>e-letter
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+<I>jeanbernard.jacquet at free.fr
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 21 03:52:21 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 21 23:10:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 17<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005421.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005423.html">[Mageia-discuss] HP all in one DeskJet 1050 J410
+</A><A NAME="5423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005422.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005424.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005425.html">[Mageia-discuss] HP all in one DeskJet 1050 J410
+</A><A NAME="5425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005426.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005427.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005428.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005429.html">[Mageia-discuss] installation failures
+</A><A NAME="5429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>e-letter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005430.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia minimal install
+</A><A NAME="5430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005431.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia minimal install
+</A><A NAME="5431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005432.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005433.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005434.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005435.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005436.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jeanbernard.jacquet at free.fr
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 21 23:10:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 21 03:52:21 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 21 23:10:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 17<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005423.html">[Mageia-discuss] HP all in one DeskJet 1050 J410
+</A><A NAME="5423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005425.html">[Mageia-discuss] HP all in one DeskJet 1050 J410
+</A><A NAME="5425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005429.html">[Mageia-discuss] installation failures
+</A><A NAME="5429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>e-letter
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005433.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005434.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005435.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005436.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jeanbernard.jacquet at free.fr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005430.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia minimal install
+</A><A NAME="5430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005431.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia minimal install
+</A><A NAME="5431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005427.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005421.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005424.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005432.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005422.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005426.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="005428.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 21 23:10:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Oct 2 12:14:52 CEST 2011</i>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 21 03:52:21 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 21 23:10:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 17<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01316569941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005421.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan R. de Silva
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01316569941-01316583793- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005422.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01316569941-01316590129- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005424.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01316569941-01316597544- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005426.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01316569941-01316597544-01316598646- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005428.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01316569941-01316597544-01316628350- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005432.html">[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.
+</A><A NAME="5432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01316582683- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005423.html">[Mageia-discuss] HP all in one DeskJet 1050 J410
+</A><A NAME="5423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>blind Pete
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01316582683-01316592602- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005425.html">[Mageia-discuss] HP all in one DeskJet 1050 J410
+</A><A NAME="5425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01316598528- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005427.html">[Mageia-discuss] Testers needed for siproxd.
+</A><A NAME="5427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01316598825- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005429.html">[Mageia-discuss] installation failures
+</A><A NAME="5429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>e-letter
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01316621085- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005430.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia minimal install
+</A><A NAME="5430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Gary Montalbine
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01316621085-01316623691- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005431.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia minimal install
+</A><A NAME="5431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01316630251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005433.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01316630251-01316633915- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005434.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01316630251-01316633915-01316635262- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005435.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01316630251-01316633915-01316635262-01316637850- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005436.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01316630251-01316633915-01316635262-01316639405- -->
+<LI><A HREF="005518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Looking for Mageia contributors around Rennes, France
+</A><A NAME="5518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>jeanbernard.jacquet at free.fr
+</I>
+
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Sep 21 23:10:05 CEST 2011</i><br>
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