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+ <H1>[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.</H1>
+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.">alien at rmail.be
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+ <I>Wed Sep 21 20:05:50 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 21 september 2011 11:32:24 schreef Claire Robinson:
+&gt;<i> On 21/09/11 02:52, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hey folks,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I do not know if it could be seen as a kind of a contribution...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I installed Mageia 1 almost as soon as it was released for evaluation
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; purposes on Dell Latitude d820. Mine is a multiboot environment with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; several distros like Ubuntu Lucid, Fedora 15, Arch, SL 6.1, and a couple
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of others installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I kept playing with it from time to time (my main systems for now are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ubuntu Lucid on laptop, and Debian Squeeze on my workstation). I should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; say I was quite impressed, especially considering short time Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exists.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then troubles started. On one of next system updates I had these:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry, the following packages cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-1.1.mga1.i586 (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - task-kde4-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - task-kde4-minimal-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; google provided with one link only. It was Mageia forum, not exactly my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; case but had enough to be considered helpful.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 'rpm -e --nodeps soprano-plugin-virtuoso' revealled the plugin was not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installed at all. A little weird, update conflicting with a not installed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages, &quot;never mind&quot; I said.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; After run 'urpmi soprano-plugin-virtuoso' and installing the plugin I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; happily get get rid of almost all the above warnings. But still had this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; one:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well, that was quite a progress.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I run 'urpmi kipi-plugins-expoblending' and on the next update attempt I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; did not get any restricting warnings/errors. So far so good. Finally I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could proceed with the update.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It seemed to complete well: no warnings, no errors. Except one little
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dirty thing - the system failed to boot after restart. It stuck at GRUB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; prompt with no errors displayed, just a word &quot;GRUB&quot;. No reaction on any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; key, not 'e', not 'c', not 'shift' button, not any others. Not even Ctl-
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Alt-Del. The only way to get out of there was pressing Power Off button.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Booting from SystemRescueCD and reinstalling grub helped nothing. Plain
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dead system.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But this was a climax. I get to the Mageia forum, trying to search for a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; clue and get this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; minutes.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And no, folks, I've not reported any bugs. Sorry, far to many... :-( At
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the end I did not try to anything funny here. Just a regular system
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a known bug, it *should* be solved now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a bug report at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was quite a bad bug as it did break the update but it brought to
+</I>&gt;<i> light the now infamous bug 2317 -
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A> - which all updates have to
+</I>&gt;<i> be checked against.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have begun linking any required packages into updates media to
+</I>&gt;<i> prevent any recurrence of that unfortunate incident. If any do slip
+</I>&gt;<i> through the net then the affect you will see is that MageiaUpdate will
+</I>&gt;<i> give an error saying a certain package cannot be selected. Please do
+</I>&gt;<i> report this if you experience it!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This only affects MageiaUpdate, so you can still perform the update from
+</I>&gt;<i> the command line as root (urpmi --auto-update) or by installing the
+</I>&gt;<i> updated packages in rpmdrake instead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hopefully we are on top of this now though and a permanent solution is
+</I>&gt;<i> being worked on behind the scenes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry if you had a bad experience with this.
+</I>
+Also <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2070">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2070</A>
+
+again, if there is bugs, try to confirm or give help.
+
+btw: with the grub issue it would be interesting if you could report it and
+post the /root/drakx/install.log file in it. perhaps something odd happened
+during the install.
+
+btw: was it installed using DVD or liveCD?
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