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The server gets +backed-up to a removable hard-drive. + + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mageia - <A HREF="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</A> + +iF4EAREIAAYFAk4iO+cACgkQspwAgUSFJCx55AD/aFdhIIHR0q4H9XDK+EgMs+ec +HHe4BhhAJDXRGTrKNSkA/iJvcuNu0hAC9BkdnmuOYZ6gdaagm4CadP2Ms4j/OyM+ +=kpvx +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004943.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4942">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4942">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4942">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4942">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004943.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004943.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b74a6ca1e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004943.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C201107162259.08415.terraagua%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004942.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004951.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup</H1> + <B>Macxi</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C201107162259.08415.terraagua%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup">terraagua at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 03:59:08 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004942.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004951.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4943">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4943">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4943">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4943">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Em sáb 16 jul 2011, às 22:33:27, Jeff Robins escreveu: +><i> What backup program(s) does everyone else use? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have multiple computers that backup to a server. The server gets +</I>><i> backed-up to a removable hard-drive. +</I> +Jeff Robins, + +I like Luckybackup. + +I send a list of backup software that I organized with packages ​​for +Mandriva and Mageia: + +Mageia Forum: +<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=697&p=5112&hilit=backup#p4895">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=697&p=5112&hilit=backup#p4895</A> + +Tools for backup - security copies (with GUI - with interface graphics) +1 - BackupPC - ok -> Mageia-1 (server) +2 - Bacula - ok -> Mageia-1 (server) +3 - Drakbackup ---------- no ---------------- +4 - TimeVault ---------- no ---------------- +5 - Luckybackup - ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop user) +6 - Fwbackup - Feature-rich user backup program​ - ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop +user) +7 - Deja-dup - simple backup- ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop user) + +Tools for backup - security copies (text mode / command with the console) +1 - afbackup - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +2 - AMANDA - ---------- no ---------------- +3 - Duplicity - ok ->> Mageia-1 +4 - Dump / restore - - ok ->>Mageia-1 +5 - tar - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +6 - dd - - ok ->> Mageia-1 (ddrescue) +7 - DAr - Disk Archiver - ---------- no ---------------- +8 - rdiff-backup - - ok ->> Mageia-1 + +Synchronization Software +1 - Rsnapshot - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +2 - Rsync - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +3 - Unison - - ok ->> Mageia-1 + +Software Disaster Recovery / Disk Cloning +1 - Mondo Rescue - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +2 - PartImage - - ok ->> Mageia-1 + + +Note 1: The default program for backup in Mageia 1 is Draksnapshot, based on +"rsnapshot": + +Note 2: backup software in MandrivaBrasil Forum ( +<A HREF="http://www.mandrivabrasil.org/site/forum/index.php?topic=11431.msg79629#msg79629">http://www.mandrivabrasil.org/site/forum/index.php?topic=11431.msg79629#msg79629</A> +) +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004942.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004951.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4943">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4943">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4943">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4943">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004944.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004944.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6cec77659 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004944.html @@ -0,0 +1,127 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3CCAC7LmnsUFWP%2BsHAedx5H6vNof%2BrYb6odj%2BXR-5t32aveCTkzGQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004955.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004949.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup</H1> + <B>Eugeni Dodonov</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3CCAC7LmnsUFWP%2BsHAedx5H6vNof%2BrYb6odj%2BXR-5t32aveCTkzGQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup">eugeni at dodonov.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 04:41:21 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004955.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004949.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4944">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4944">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4944">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4944">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 22:33, Jeff Robins <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jeffrobinssae at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> What backup program(s) does everyone else use? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have multiple computers that backup to a server. The server gets +</I>><i> backed-up to a removable hard-drive. +</I>><i> +</I> +If you are looking for a big and scalable solution, suitable for any case, +and you have a dedicated server, bacula is certainly the best out there. But +it is also very, very non-end-user-friendly and requires lots of config file +editing to get started. But when you master it, it will save you life at +each step and will do magic with your backups. + +If you are thinking about simple backup solution for some common directories +(say, /etc/, /home/, ...), there are drakbackup and draksnapshot in +Mandriva/Mageia. Each has its peculiarities, but they do the job fine in +most cases. + +If you want to go deeper and manage your own backups and syncronization, you +cannot escape much from rsync, unison, rsnapshot and tar - and its variants. +There are plenty of alternatives and UIs for each of them. + +If you are thinking on hard-disk backup solutions, and system imaging, there +are many options to choose from - ghost4linux, dd+rdiff :), dump/restore, +unirecovery (but this one is still proprietary I think, and is mostly +available for OEMs), and now carbono [1], which is developed by the same +guys (me included, but without much time to play with it unfortunately) who +developed unirecovery application at mstech. + +And finally, if you just want to backup some subset of files in a +space-efficient manner, +<A HREF="http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~sxanth/ungit.htmlgives">http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~sxanth/ungit.htmlgives</A> a nice +overview about how to use git for that. Basically, it can be +done with the following trivial script: + +#!/bin/sh +for backup in /home/eugeni /etc/ /var/config; do + pushd $backup + git add . + git commit -a -m "Backed up on %d.%m.%y" + git push server + popd +done + +(Of course, you must setup initial git infra with 'git init', and setup +remote branches for each of backup'able directories, but I'll skip those +instructions as they are available in any git tutorial - just yell if you +need some help with that). + +Besides those tricks, there are also hundreds of other backup applications +and solutions. I tried to describe the most common scenarios, but it all +depends on your needs of course. + +P.S.: Real hackers don't backup configs and applications, they commit their +settings upstream and just reinstall the packages when needed :). + +[1] <A HREF="https://github.com/umago/carbono">https://github.com/umago/carbono</A> + +-- +Eugeni Dodonov +<A HREF="http://eugeni.dodonov.net/">http://eugeni.dodonov.net/</A> +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110716/31098ee7/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004955.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004949.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4944">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4944">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4944">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4944">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004945.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004945.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fa65e0144 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004945.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3C201107170011.02023.luanlx.louie%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004970.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004948.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kmail</H1> + <B>Louie Pham</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3C201107170011.02023.luanlx.louie%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kmail">luanlx.louie at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 06:11:01 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004970.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4945">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4945">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4945">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4945">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>How do you backup kmail data like e-mail and setting? 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+</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not answering your question, but is there a Web page that explains the +</I>><i> differences between the -desktop and -server flavours? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (for the record, I'm successfully using a -desktop kernel on a +</I>><i> 64-bit machine with 8GB RAM) +</I>><i> +</I> +Off-topic, but shocked at the ram capacities these days; still using +mandriva2008, on an old computer with ... wait for it ... 256mb! Can +make a cup of tea while Writer is loading! :) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Release cycle, support and planning +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004956.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4947">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4947">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4947">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4947">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004948.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004948.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aae62336c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004948.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCALK7e_M6tp%2BiPAe%2BXZ7uHk-1sjQvr_3E%3D7A2nbfS8uHt1SPomQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004945.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004953.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kmail</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCALK7e_M6tp%2BiPAe%2BXZ7uHk-1sjQvr_3E%3D7A2nbfS8uHt1SPomQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kmail">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 10:38:57 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4948">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4948">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4948">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4948">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/7/17 Louie Pham <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">luanlx.louie at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> How do you backup kmail data like e-mail and setting? +</I> +KMail saves its mails and settings in ~/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/ and +.kde4/share/config/kmailrc + +Saving those should do the trick... + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4948">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4948">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4948">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4948">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004949.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004949.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d74cdae7e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004949.html @@ -0,0 +1,131 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3CCANDORXaTrfBNnL048aXCYtPaaDM_ux_23LwfmY-PC8PPFyeLGA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004944.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004950.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup</H1> + <B>Andres Kaaber</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3CCANDORXaTrfBNnL048aXCYtPaaDM_ux_23LwfmY-PC8PPFyeLGA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup">andres.kaaber at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 10:49:07 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004944.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004950.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4949">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4949">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4949">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4949">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Once my friend, Oracle DBA, told me that backup is for weak, when he +was restoring a lost database, manually ;) + +2011/7/17 Eugeni Dodonov <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">eugeni at dodonov.net</A>>: +><i> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 22:33, Jeff Robins <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jeffrobinssae at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What backup program(s) does everyone else use? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I have multiple computers that backup to a server.  The server gets +</I>>><i> backed-up to a removable hard-drive. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you are looking for a big and scalable solution, suitable for any case, +</I>><i> and you have a dedicated server, bacula is certainly the best out there. But +</I>><i> it is also very, very non-end-user-friendly and requires lots of config file +</I>><i> editing to get started. But when you master it, it will save you life at +</I>><i> each step and will do magic with your backups. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you are thinking about simple backup solution for some common directories +</I>><i> (say, /etc/, /home/, ...), there are drakbackup and draksnapshot in +</I>><i> Mandriva/Mageia. Each has its peculiarities, but they do the job fine in +</I>><i> most cases. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you want to go deeper and manage your own backups and syncronization, you +</I>><i> cannot escape much from rsync, unison, rsnapshot and tar - and its variants. +</I>><i> There are plenty of alternatives and UIs for each of them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you are thinking on hard-disk backup solutions, and system imaging, there +</I>><i> are many options to choose from - ghost4linux, dd+rdiff :), dump/restore, +</I>><i> unirecovery (but this one is still proprietary I think, and is mostly +</I>><i> available for OEMs), and now carbono [1], which is developed by the same +</I>><i> guys (me included, but without much time to play with it unfortunately) who +</I>><i> developed unirecovery application at mstech. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And finally, if you just want to backup some subset of files in a +</I>><i> space-efficient manner, <A HREF="http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~sxanth/ungit.html">http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~sxanth/ungit.html</A> +</I>><i> gives a nice overview about how to use git for that. Basically, it can be +</I>><i> done with the following trivial script: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> #!/bin/sh +</I>><i> for backup in /home/eugeni /etc/ /var/config; do +</I>><i>   pushd $backup +</I>><i>   git add . +</I>><i>   git commit -a -m "Backed up on %d.%m.%y" +</I>><i>   git push server +</I>><i>   popd +</I>><i> done +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (Of course, you must setup initial git infra with 'git init', and setup +</I>><i> remote branches for each of backup'able directories, but I'll skip those +</I>><i> instructions as they are available in any git tutorial - just yell if you +</I>><i> need some help with that). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Besides those tricks, there are also hundreds of other backup applications +</I>><i> and solutions. I tried to describe the most common scenarios, but it all +</I>><i> depends on your needs of course. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> P.S.: Real hackers don't backup configs and applications, they commit their +</I>><i> settings upstream and just reinstall the packages when needed :). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [1] <A HREF="https://github.com/umago/carbono">https://github.com/umago/carbono</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Eugeni Dodonov +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://eugeni.dodonov.net/">http://eugeni.dodonov.net/</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +A. 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Each has its peculiarities, but they do the job fine in +</I>><i> most cases. +</I>><i> +</I> +Eugeni, + +I was using drakbackup in Mandriva for the backups to the server, but it +isn't available on Mageia. I was saving the files to a mounted nfs +share. Each computer has it's own directory on the share. I was using +DAR to archive the backup directories on the server and save them on a +removable hard-drive, which was kept at a separate location. This is +only for our computers at home, 3, and not a business. + +I am going to take a closer look at draksnapshot later on. I guess I +just looked at the name '*snapshot' and figured it was basically an +image of the entire system and not just specific folders and files. + +I added the requirements below for completeness. + +My current requirements/preferences for the desktops are as follows: +1) Ability to include only specific directories and subdirectories. +2) Ability to easily exclude specific directories. +3) Saves compressed copies in easy to use archive formats (tar, dar, +zip, etc) +4) Ability to do incremental backups +5) Ability to schedule backups +6) Ability to easily get files out of a backup using a livecd and any +computer + - I should not need a database running to get files + - I should not need a full Linux install + +My current requirements/preferences for the server's backup folders are +as follows: +1) Saves compressed copies in easy to use archive formats (tar, dar, +zip, etc) +2) Ability to do incremental backups + +I will probably just continue to use DAR to do the backups from the +server to the removable hard-drive. I created a statically linked +version of DAR and text-mode only Truecrypt. The external drive is +encrypted because it lives off-site. + +Thank you, + +Jeff + + + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mageia - <A HREF="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</A> + +iF4EAREIAAYFAk4iookACgkQspwAgUSFJCzLAAD/fYYcgciqBYhrvO2l3nMY2x94 +ROvzntW6ePbYwL7H0AUBAJeX9Cg4W/J/fC0mWINma8WaOnbFIJ6OJ+BFAH5dh07q +=1qe2 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004949.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004970.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4950">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4950">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4950">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4950">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004951.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004951.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..443033532 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004951.html @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E22A374.2000502%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004943.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004952.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup</H1> + <B>Jeff Robins</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E22A374.2000502%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup">jeffrobinssae at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 10:55:16 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004943.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004952.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4951">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4951">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4951">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4951">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA256 + +><i> Tools for backup - security copies (with GUI - with interface graphics) +</I>><i> 1 - BackupPC - ok -> Mageia-1 (server) +</I>><i> 2 - Bacula - ok -> Mageia-1 (server) +</I>><i> 3 - Drakbackup ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> 4 - TimeVault ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> 5 - Luckybackup - ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop user) +</I>><i> 6 - Fwbackup - Feature-rich user backup program​ - ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop +</I>><i> user) +</I>><i> 7 - Deja-dup - simple backup- ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop user) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Tools for backup - security copies (text mode / command with the console) +</I>><i> 1 - afbackup - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 2 - AMANDA - ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> 3 - Duplicity - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 4 - Dump / restore - - ok ->>Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 5 - tar - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 6 - dd - - ok ->> Mageia-1 (ddrescue) +</I>><i> 7 - DAr - Disk Archiver - ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> 8 - rdiff-backup - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> +</I> +Macxi, + +Thank you for the list. I will start to go through them later, probably +next weekend. + +I have a couple of questions on your ratings though. + +1) Why did you eliminate Drakbackup? + +2) Why did you eliminate DAR? I almost eliminated it from my current +backup solution do to its odd command line usage and options, but I +struggled through it until I understood them. They are still a pain in +the ass, especially when you have to specify file names without the +".dar". + +Thank you, + +Jeff + + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mageia - <A HREF="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</A> + +iF4EAREIAAYFAk4io3QACgkQspwAgUSFJCyZqwD+L4BgdbH9lye0rizK3CVMRFm7 +/jJXgYBUBoDPCSy/EqUA/3y8mOdQJuYnt14WkAyUeXpGiloaleEQPIBsCRS4k6/v +=9y5A +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004943.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004952.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4951">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4951">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4951">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4951">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004952.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004952.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f7c3839f1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004952.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E22ABB9.4070909%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004951.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004963.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup</H1> + <B>Xuo</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%20/%0A%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E22ABB9.4070909%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup">xuoy at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 11:30:33 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004951.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004963.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4952">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4952">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4952">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4952">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +To my point of view, BackupPC is really a good backup tool. It is not +easy to install (if there is a rpm, it should be easier) and to +configure, but it is very interesting. + +Xuo. + +Le 17/07/2011 10:55, Jeff Robins a écrit : +><i> > Tools for backup - security copies (with GUI - with interface graphics) +</I>><i> > 1 - BackupPC - ok -> Mageia-1 (server) +</I>><i> > 2 - Bacula - ok -> Mageia-1 (server) +</I>><i> > 3 - Drakbackup ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> > 4 - TimeVault ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> > 5 - Luckybackup - ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop user) +</I>><i> > 6 - Fwbackup - Feature-rich user backup program​ - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> (desktop +</I>><i> > user) +</I>><i> > 7 - Deja-dup - simple backup- ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop user) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Tools for backup - security copies (text mode / command with the +</I>><i> console) +</I>><i> > 1 - afbackup - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> > 2 - AMANDA - ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> > 3 - Duplicity - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> > 4 - Dump / restore - - ok ->>Mageia-1 +</I>><i> > 5 - tar - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> > 6 - dd - - ok ->> Mageia-1 (ddrescue) +</I>><i> > 7 - DAr - Disk Archiver - ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> > 8 - rdiff-backup - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Macxi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thank you for the list. I will start to go through them later, probably +</I>><i> next weekend. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have a couple of questions on your ratings though. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) Why did you eliminate Drakbackup? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2) Why did you eliminate DAR? I almost eliminated it from my current +</I>><i> backup solution do to its odd command line usage and options, but I +</I>><i> struggled through it until I understood them. They are still a pain in +</I>><i> the ass, especially when you have to specify file names without the +</I>><i> ".dar". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thank you, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Jeff +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004951.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004963.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4952">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4952">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4952">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4952">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004953.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004953.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a787386c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004953.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCAC0LJT9tvcu8o-eC2jw-sNFcbOC%2B8kevER%3DqnyU8QCk%3D5DGLjw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004948.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004954.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kmail</H1> + <B>Marek Laane</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCAC0LJT9tvcu8o-eC2jw-sNFcbOC%2B8kevER%3DqnyU8QCk%3D5DGLjw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kmail">bald at smail.ee + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 11:44:16 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4953">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4953">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4953">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4953">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/7/17 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> + +><i> 2011/7/17 Louie Pham <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">luanlx.louie at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > How do you backup kmail data like e-mail and setting? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> KMail saves its mails and settings in ~/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/ and +</I>><i> .kde4/share/config/kmailrc +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Saving those should do the trick... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> +</I> +New KMail (KMail2) should have some archiving options, though I've not tried +it myself, just know because I've translated strings indicating to the +possibility. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110717/54913664/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4953">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4953">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4953">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4953">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004954.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004954.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..892cd67dd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004954.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3C201107171201.20419.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004953.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004960.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kmail</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3C201107171201.20419.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kmail">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 12:01:20 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004960.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4954">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4954">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4954">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4954">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zondag 17 juli 2011 11:44:16 schreef Marek Laane: +><i> 2011/7/17 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > 2011/7/17 Louie Pham <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">luanlx.louie at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > > How do you backup kmail data like e-mail and setting? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > KMail saves its mails and settings in ~/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/ and +</I>><i> > .kde4/share/config/kmailrc +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Saving those should do the trick... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Oliver +</I>><i> +</I>><i> New KMail (KMail2) should have some archiving options, though I've not +</I>><i> tried it myself, just know because I've translated strings indicating to +</I>><i> the possibility. +</I> +does it have some nice blocking options? + +I'd like to block complete threads that are started by a specific person on the +-dev ML + +also if he would reply to a thread, all threading further down that chain... +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004960.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4954">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4954">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4954">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4954">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004955.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004955.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..946ed1317 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004955.html @@ -0,0 +1,127 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%0A%09/%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E22BA7D.2090106%40marcpare.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004972.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004944.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%0A%09/%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E22BA7D.2090106%40marcpare.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 12:33:33 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004972.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004944.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4955">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4955">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4955">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4955">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2011-07-16 21:59, Macxi a écrit : +><i> Em sáb 16 jul 2011, às 22:33:27, Jeff Robins escreveu: +</I>>><i> What backup program(s) does everyone else use? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I have multiple computers that backup to a server. The server gets +</I>>><i> backed-up to a removable hard-drive. +</I>><i> Jeff Robins, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I like Luckybackup. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I send a list of backup software that I organized with packages ​​for +</I>><i> Mandriva and Mageia: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mageia Forum: +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=697&p=5112&hilit=backup#p4895">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=697&p=5112&hilit=backup#p4895</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Tools for backup - security copies (with GUI - with interface graphics) +</I>><i> 1 - BackupPC - ok -> Mageia-1 (server) +</I>><i> 2 - Bacula - ok -> Mageia-1 (server) +</I>><i> 3 - Drakbackup ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> 4 - TimeVault ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> 5 - Luckybackup - ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop user) +</I>><i> 6 - Fwbackup - Feature-rich user backup program​ - ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop +</I>><i> user) +</I>><i> 7 - Deja-dup - simple backup- ok ->> Mageia-1 (desktop user) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Tools for backup - security copies (text mode / command with the console) +</I>><i> 1 - afbackup - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 2 - AMANDA - ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> 3 - Duplicity - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 4 - Dump / restore - - ok ->>Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 5 - tar - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 6 - dd - - ok ->> Mageia-1 (ddrescue) +</I>><i> 7 - DAr - Disk Archiver - ---------- no ---------------- +</I>><i> 8 - rdiff-backup - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Synchronization Software +</I>><i> 1 - Rsnapshot - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 2 - Rsync - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 3 - Unison - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Software Disaster Recovery / Disk Cloning +</I>><i> 1 - Mondo Rescue - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> 2 - PartImage - - ok ->> Mageia-1 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Note 1: The default program for backup in Mageia 1 is Draksnapshot, based on +</I>><i> "rsnapshot": +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Note 2: backup software in MandrivaBrasil Forum ( +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivabrasil.org/site/forum/index.php?topic=11431.msg79629#msg79629">http://www.mandrivabrasil.org/site/forum/index.php?topic=11431.msg79629#msg79629</A> +</I>><i> ) +</I>><i> +</I>I use LuckyBackup which is really just a front-end for Rsync. The lucky +backup in the Mageia MCC is v.0.4.5 but if you go to the LuckyBackup +website[1] you can download the latest version v.0.4.6 which installs +correctly on my Mageia box. It's a nice backup tool. Does pretty well +all the type of backups that you can imagine and the GUI is quite user +friendly. + +Cheers, + +Marc + +[1] <A HREF="http://luckybackup.sourceforge.net/">http://luckybackup.sourceforge.net/</A> + +-- +Marc Paré +<A HREF="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</A> + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004972.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004944.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4955">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4955">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4955">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4955">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004956.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004956.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..11a916f2e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004956.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201107172158.05274.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004947.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004957.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201107172158.05274.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 13:58:05 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4956">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4956">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4956">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4956">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:00:03 PM <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +><i> Message: 2 +</I>><i> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:45:43 +0100 +</I>><i> From: Maurice Batey <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>> +</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No +</I>><i> choice? +</I>><i> Message-ID: <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pan.2011.07.15.17.45.42.391789 at bcs.org.uk</A>> +</I>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-jp +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Having installed Mageia-1 (from DVD), I find it has installed the +</I>><i> server kernels, rather than the desktop kernels. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Presumably that's because my PC has 4GB RAM, but - on this 1-user system +</I>><i> - I would have preferred the desktop kernels to be installed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Did I miss an installation option, to choose server v. desktop? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If not, could the installer be given such an option - perhaps in +</I>><i> some 'Advanced' tab? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That would avoid having to swap kernels with: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> urpmi kernel-desktop-latest +</I>><i> urpmi kernel-desktop-devel-latest +</I>><i> urpmi nvidia-current-kernel-desktop-latest +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (assuming that will do the trick here). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> /\/\aurice +</I>><i> (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649 +</I>><i> +</I>I raised this one on the Mandriva list. I was told that it was because I had +a 32-bit version installed on a 64-bit capable machine. Sure enough, when I +installed the 64-bit version, I got the desktop kernel by default. + +Doug. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4956">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4956">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4956">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4956">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004957.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004957.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..77be7dd3a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004957.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2011.07.17.12.39.53.269865%40bcs.org.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004956.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004958.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?</H1> + <B>Maurice Batey</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cpan.2011.07.17.12.39.53.269865%40bcs.org.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?">maurice at bcs.org.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 14:39:53 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004956.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4957">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4957">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4957">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4957">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:58:05 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote: + +><i> I was told that it was because I had +</I>><i> a 32-bit version installed on a 64-bit capable machine. Sure enough, when I +</I>><i> installed the 64-bit version, I got the desktop kernel by default. +</I> + OIC. Interesting! +I've been steering clear of 64-bit installs, until there a less +problems with 64-bit apps. + +Pro tem I have converted to desktop kernels via urpmi. + +I still think the installter should have a 'server v. desktop' choice. + +-- +/\/\aurice + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004956.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4957">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4957">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4957">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4957">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004958.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004958.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ba0b5df48 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004958.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1107171447440.8562%40zem.cjw.nep%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004957.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004967.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?</H1> + <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1107171447440.8562%40zem.cjw.nep%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 14:51:48 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004967.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4958">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4958">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4958">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4958">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Maurice Batey wrote: + +><i> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:58:05 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> I was told that it was because I had +</I>>><i> a 32-bit version installed on a 64-bit capable machine. Sure enough, when I +</I>>><i> installed the 64-bit version, I got the desktop kernel by default. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OIC. Interesting! +</I>><i> I've been steering clear of 64-bit installs, until there a less +</I>><i> problems with 64-bit apps. +</I> +It is quite normal and useful to have a 64-bit kernel with only 32-bit +apps. But I don't know if this is supported by mageia tools (like the +installer). In theory you can always switch to a 32-bit version of any app +in a full 64-bit install, but I've found some potential problems in that +area recently. + + + Christiaan +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004967.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4958">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4958">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4958">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4958">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004959.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004959.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c98496fca --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004959.html @@ -0,0 +1,127 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Civum8e%249ol%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004967.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004964.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?</H1> + <B>TJ</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Civum8e%249ol%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?">andrewsfarm at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 14:57:45 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004967.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004964.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4959">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4959">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4959">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4959">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 07/17/2011 07:58 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +><i> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:00:03 PM <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +</I>>><i> Message: 2 +</I>>><i> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:45:43 +0100 +</I>>><i> From: Maurice Batey<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maurice at bcs.org.uk</A>> +</I>>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> Subject: [Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No +</I>>><i> choice? +</I>>><i> Message-ID:<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pan.2011.07.15.17.45.42.391789 at bcs.org.uk</A>> +</I>>><i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-jp +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Having installed Mageia-1 (from DVD), I find it has installed the +</I>>><i> server kernels, rather than the desktop kernels. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Presumably that's because my PC has 4GB RAM, but - on this 1-user system +</I>>><i> - I would have preferred the desktop kernels to be installed. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Did I miss an installation option, to choose server v. desktop? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If not, could the installer be given such an option - perhaps in +</I>>><i> some 'Advanced' tab? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That would avoid having to swap kernels with: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> urpmi kernel-desktop-latest +</I>>><i> urpmi kernel-desktop-devel-latest +</I>>><i> urpmi nvidia-current-kernel-desktop-latest +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> (assuming that will do the trick here). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> /\/\aurice +</I>>><i> (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649 +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I raised this one on the Mandriva list. I was told that it was because I had +</I>><i> a 32-bit version installed on a 64-bit capable machine. Sure enough, when I +</I>><i> installed the 64-bit version, I got the desktop kernel by default. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Doug. +</I>><i> +</I>Well, that explains it. Mandriva has been insisting on installing the +server kernel since I bought this Sempron 3100+ cpu/motherboard combo +from a recycler on Ebay a couple of years ago, even though the +motherboard supports a maximum of 2GB of DDR RAM. (I chose it because I +needed a new mobo, was, as always, strapped for cash, and wanted to use +my existing RAM modules.) With Mandriva, I switched to the desktop +kernel manually, but with Mageia I decided to stick with the server +kernel just to see how it worked out. Frankly, I see little if any +difference in speed or operation from a user's perspective between the +two 32-bit kernels on my machine, so when I finally get the time to +switch to Mageia as my production install I'll continue with the server +kernel. + +I looked into installing the 64-bit version of Mandriva when I +discovered my cpu was 64-bit capable, but concluded at the time that +there was no real advantage on this machine since the maximum RAM is +less than 4 GB. So far, I've been happy with that, but in light of +recent development, is there any reason why I should reconsider? + +TJ + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004967.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004964.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4959">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4959">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4959">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4959">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004960.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004960.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c78786351 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004960.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj47%2B4Kr5B9zCn6pr-cZnxd_OtqzPVG0ou3-PeyN26%3Dc5Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004954.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004961.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kmail</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj47%2B4Kr5B9zCn6pr-cZnxd_OtqzPVG0ou3-PeyN26%3Dc5Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kmail">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 16:55:07 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004961.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4960">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4960">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4960">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4960">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/7/17 Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Op zondag 17 juli 2011 11:44:16 schreef Marek Laane: +</I>>><i> 2011/7/17 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> > 2011/7/17 Louie Pham <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">luanlx.louie at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> > > How do you backup kmail data like e-mail and setting? +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > KMail saves its mails and settings in ~/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/ and +</I>>><i> > .kde4/share/config/kmailrc +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Saving those should do the trick... +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Oliver +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> New KMail (KMail2) should have some archiving options, though I've not +</I>>><i> tried it myself, just know because I've translated strings indicating to +</I>>><i> the possibility. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> does it have some nice blocking options? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'd like to block complete threads that are started by a specific person on the +</I>><i> -dev ML +</I>><i> +</I>><i> also if he would reply to a thread, all threading further down that chain... +</I> +Ok, it's OT but what would you gain by that? You would not have to +read the mails of this specific person, fine, but you will also miss +all other mails by all other people participating in such threads. And +what makes you believe that neither this spcific person nor all others +will not say anything of interest for you in such threads? + +In an environment like this here - especially the -dev list - I regard +this way as counter-productive for yourself but also for all others, +to say the least. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004961.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4960">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4960">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4960">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4960">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004961.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004961.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..18bd69d92 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004961.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCALK7e_Mhhjk-hnYZgF5-L_WwCoZNOnfUw6rp3PLOznhXpw2HMA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004960.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004962.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kmail</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCALK7e_Mhhjk-hnYZgF5-L_WwCoZNOnfUw6rp3PLOznhXpw2HMA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kmail">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 17:08:49 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004960.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4961">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4961">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4961">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4961">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/7/17 Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> 2011/7/17 Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> I'd like to block complete threads that are started by a specific person on the +</I>>><i> -dev ML +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> also if he would reply to a thread, all threading further down that chain... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ok, it's OT but what would you gain by that? You would not have to +</I>><i> read the mails of this specific person, fine, but you will also miss +</I>><i> all other mails by all other people participating in such threads. And +</I>><i> what makes you believe that neither this spcific person nor all others +</I>><i> will not say anything of interest for you in such threads? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In an environment like this here - especially the -dev list - I regard +</I>><i> this way as counter-productive for yourself but also for all others, +</I>><i> to say the least. +</I>><i> +</I>Wobo, of course you are right, but as I wrote in of of those threads +in dev yesterday, when people start to +- calling other people names (and people who have worked for years on +all kinds of FLOSS projects) +- discredit other people's work +- affront other people + +I have to ignore them before I tell them what I do think of them... +I do not and that's not really good for my health :/ + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004960.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4961">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4961">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4961">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4961">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004962.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004962.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6a06331e2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004962.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vyrrfaohct0cxl%40kira-notebook.kirayao%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I will start to go through them later, probably +</I>><i> next weekend. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have a couple of questions on your ratings though. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) Why did you eliminate Drakbackup? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2) Why did you eliminate DAR? I almost eliminated it from my current +</I>><i> backup solution do to its odd command line usage and options, but I +</I>><i> struggled through it until I understood them. They are still a pain in +</I>><i> the ass, especially when you have to specify file names without the +</I>><i> ".dar". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thank you, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Jeff +</I> + +Jeff, + +This table that I organized, I just listed the packages of "Mageia 1" and +"Mandriva 2010.2" + +The packages that have "---- no ----" I not found in the official repository of +"Mageia 1" (default repository: Media 1, 3, 11, 13, 21 and 23). + +The package "Drakbackup" is default in "Mandriva 2010.2", but i didn't find in +official repository of "Mageia 1", + +The same happened with the packages: + +4 - TimeVault ---------- no ---------------- +2 - AMANDA - ---------- no ---------------- +7 - DAr - Disk Archiver - ---------- no ---------------- + +I'm using Luckybackup because it is easy to use, very user-friendly. +The others I don't know, I think they are complexes to configure, as Bacula, as +commented by Eugeni Dononov. + +The table only lists, I didn't evaluate the backup software. + +Fortunately, Eugeni Dononov presented us with an excellent evaluation of the +various backup software. + +Hugs + +Macxi + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004952.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004972.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4963">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4963">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4963">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4963">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004964.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004964.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6b5bd4213 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004964.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCR.l%25B%40r78.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004959.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004968.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CCR.l%25B%40r78.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 17:44:22 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004959.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4964">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4964">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4964">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4964">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 08:57:45AM -0400, TJ wrote: +><i>I looked into installing the 64-bit version of Mandriva when I +</I>><i>discovered my cpu was 64-bit capable, but concluded at the time that +</I>><i>there was no real advantage on this machine since the maximum RAM is +</I>><i>less than 4 GB. So far, I've been happy with that, but in light of +</I>><i>recent development, is there any reason why I should reconsider? +</I> +Outside of the large memory support on 64 bit, it also uses the additional +registers a x86_64 processor has available. This should result in a +performance improvement on your computer, though I'm unsure how noticable +this is. + +Remco +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 836 bytes +Desc: Digital signature +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110717/119bbb05/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004959.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4964">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4964">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4964">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4964">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004965.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004965.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a2ea68063 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004965.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCS.UvU%40r78.nl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004966.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004971.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kmail</H1> + <B>Remco Rijnders</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCS.UvU%40r78.nl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kmail">remco at webconquest.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 17:51:53 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004966.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4965">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4965">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4965">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4965">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 04:55:07PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: +><i>2011/7/17 Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>>><i> New KMail (KMail2) should have some archiving options, though I've not +</I>>>><i> tried it myself, just know because I've translated strings indicating to +</I>>>><i> the possibility. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> does it have some nice blocking options? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'd like to block complete threads that are started by a specific person on the +</I>>><i> -dev ML +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> also if he would reply to a thread, all threading further down that chain... +</I>><i> +</I>><i>Ok, it's OT but what would you gain by that? You would not have to +</I>><i>read the mails of this specific person, fine, but you will also miss +</I>><i>all other mails by all other people participating in such threads. And +</I>><i>what makes you believe that neither this spcific person nor all others +</I>><i>will not say anything of interest for you in such threads? +</I>><i> +</I>><i>In an environment like this here - especially the -dev list - I regard +</I>><i>this way as counter-productive for yourself but also for all others, +</I>><i>to say the least. +</I> +I think said person has disqualified himself completely in the eyes of +many. Without an apology from their side, I can well understand that +Oliver and Maarten have no desire in reading further any posts by this +person and to have low expectations on the quality and constructiveness of +any threads this person participates in. + +Remco +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 836 bytes +Desc: Digital signature +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110717/7c0aa281/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004966.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4965">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4965">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4965">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4965">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004966.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004966.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5d71b3947 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004966.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj5gQkZbBx6os4wRenbt_OWTq9__nDQU9196Yh4u82HVmg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004962.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004965.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kmail</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj5gQkZbBx6os4wRenbt_OWTq9__nDQU9196Yh4u82HVmg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kmail">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 18:17:36 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4966">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4966">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4966">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4966">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/7/17 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> 2011/7/17 Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> 2011/7/17 Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>>><i> I'd like to block complete threads that are started by a specific person on the +</I>>>><i> -dev ML +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> also if he would reply to a thread, all threading further down that chain... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Ok, it's OT but what would you gain by that? You would not have to +</I>>><i> read the mails of this specific person, fine, but you will also miss +</I>>><i> all other mails by all other people participating in such threads. And +</I>>><i> what makes you believe that neither this spcific person nor all others +</I>>><i> will not say anything of interest for you in such threads? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> In an environment like this here - especially the -dev list - I regard +</I>>><i> this way as counter-productive for yourself but also for all others, +</I>>><i> to say the least. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Wobo, of course you are right, but as I wrote in of of those threads +</I>><i> in dev yesterday, when people start to +</I>><i> - calling other people names (and people who have worked for years on +</I>><i> all kinds of FLOSS projects) +</I>><i> - discredit other people's work +</I>><i> - affront other people +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have to ignore them before I tell them what I do think of them... +</I>><i> I do not and that's not really good for my health :/ +</I> +Ok, I can see the reason and I must admit that this thread was kind of +a shock to me - I would not have thought that we would experience such +a disgusting behavior in a technical mailing list. It went very fast +beyond a limit so I refreined from giving my opinion there. + +That said, I would still think twice about a general block like +Maarten wrote, the disadvantage may be too much and I think I would +not let one or two bad guys stand in my way of information. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4966">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4966">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4966">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4966">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004967.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004967.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6fc582f82 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004967.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? 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So far, I've been happy with that, but in light of +</I>><i> >recent development, is there any reason why I should reconsider? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Outside of the large memory support on 64 bit, it also uses the +</I>><i> additional registers a x86_64 processor has available. This should +</I>><i> result in a performance improvement on your computer, though I'm unsure +</I>><i> how noticable this is. +</I> +And also, the 32bits are actually compiled for i586, so you don't have the +optimizations and newer instructions sets that are available for i686 and +newer. +x86_64 include all those goodies and so you get all those optimizations when +you compile for x86_64. + +-- +Renaud Michel +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004964.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4968">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4968">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4968">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4968">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004969.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004969.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dee163bf2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004969.html @@ -0,0 +1,83 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201107180246.50778.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004968.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Installer%3A%20Server%20v.%20desktop%20kernel%3A%20No%20choice%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201107180246.50778.laidlaws%40hotkey.net.au%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice?">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 18:46:50 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4969">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4969">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4969">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4969">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 01:08:53 AM <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> wrote: +><i> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:58:05 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +</I>><i> > I was told that it was because I had +</I>><i> > a 32-bit version installed on a 64-bit capable machine. Sure enough, +</I>><i> > when I installed the 64-bit version, I got the desktop kernel by +</I>><i> > default. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OIC. Interesting! +</I>><i> I've been steering clear of 64-bit installs, until there a less +</I>><i> problems with 64-bit apps. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Pro tem I have converted to desktop kernels via urpmi. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I still think the installter should have a 'server v. desktop' choice. +</I> +Maurice, the reason given was memory, as mentioned by a couple of others. I +would have to check the thread again, but the thrust of it was: + +With a 32-bit distro on a 64-bit computer, the only kernel that can handle +your RAM properly is the server kernel. You would actually be worse off with +the desktop kernel. I queried whether the server kernel would be slower, and +was told that it wasn't. I haven't tried to verify any of this. + +So, if you want to stay with 32-bit (I went back to it) the server kernel is +your best choice. + +Doug. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4969">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4969">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4969">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4969">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004970.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004970.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..485f46946 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004970.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%0A%09/%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E234688.6090206%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004950.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004945.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%0A%09/%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E234688.6090206%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 22:31:04 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004950.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4970">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4970">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4970">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4970">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I am using BackupPC, no problems. Original reasons for my choice: + - allows to back up a mix of Linux and Windows systems + - is well supported and has a lively ML where advice can be sought + - is easy to maintain and operate + +The user interface / control-facilities are nice, a good compromise +between simplicity and choice of features, restoring (selecting sources, +getting them) is easy. + +As already said, installation is not quite easy - but there is +experience in the Mageia and Mandriva community (though, documentation +of Mageia-specific issues has not yet made its way into the wiki or +README files). Installation on windows machines is yet somewhat more +complicated - you need Cygwin to make rsync run on the windows platform, +but again, there is good documentation. In case you opt for installing +BackupPC and need documentation/advice, shout (to get started, a look at +Magaia bugzilla #600 might be helpful) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004950.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4970">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4970">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4970">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4970">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004971.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004971.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..26eb90154 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004971.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Kmail + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3C201107172307.34380.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004965.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004946.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Kmail</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Kmail&In-Reply-To=%3C201107172307.34380.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Kmail">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 23:07:34 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Release cycle, support and planning +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4971">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4971">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4971">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4971">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zondag 17 juli 2011 16:55:07 schreef Wolfgang Bornath: +><i> 2011/7/17 Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> > Op zondag 17 juli 2011 11:44:16 schreef Marek Laane: +</I>><i> >> 2011/7/17 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> > 2011/7/17 Louie Pham <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">luanlx.louie at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>><i> >> > > How do you backup kmail data like e-mail and setting? +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > KMail saves its mails and settings in ~/.kde4/share/apps/kmail/ and +</I>><i> >> > .kde4/share/config/kmailrc +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > Saving those should do the trick... +</I>><i> >> > +</I>><i> >> > Oliver +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> New KMail (KMail2) should have some archiving options, though I've not +</I>><i> >> tried it myself, just know because I've translated strings indicating to +</I>><i> >> the possibility. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > does it have some nice blocking options? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'd like to block complete threads that are started by a specific person +</I>><i> > on the -dev ML +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > also if he would reply to a thread, all threading further down that +</I>><i> > chain... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ok, it's OT but what would you gain by that? You would not have to +</I>><i> read the mails of this specific person, fine, but you will also miss +</I>><i> all other mails by all other people participating in such threads. And +</I>><i> what makes you believe that neither this spcific person nor all others +</I>><i> will not say anything of interest for you in such threads? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In an environment like this here - especially the -dev list - I regard +</I>><i> this way as counter-productive for yourself but also for all others, +</I>><i> to say the least. +</I> +from what i saw, this particular thread (but actually this also happened with +previous threads started by that same person), it seems every post is an +incitement for a flamefest. I do have only limited time, and if all that time +is being spent in reading emails... + +Now i easily can and _have_ ignored this thread (mark thread as read); i admit +i'm not really planning on doing this kind of blocking atm, and i do think +that given a few more new threads by this person and the problem will have +sorted itself (ie: no more people replying to it), and i also admit that my +frustration got the better of me, and looking at this email the opportunity +presented itself for a kind of a "statement-ish statement" which is completely +OT. + +As such, i would like to ask anyone here to refrain from commenting on this +thread, as it appears thinking back on this that i'm no better with regards to +trolling than the person of whom i'm sure you know who i meant. + +Sorry. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Release cycle, support and planning +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4971">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4971">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4971">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4971">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004972.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004972.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..84d5a44f8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/004972.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%0A%09/%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E234FB6.2020808%40jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004963.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004955.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup</H1> + <B>James Kerr</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BTicket%20%2316%5D%20Preferred%20backup%20program%0A%09/%09drakbackup&In-Reply-To=%3C4E234FB6.2020808%40jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup">jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jul 17 23:10:14 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004963.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004955.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4972">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4972">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4972">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4972">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 17/07/11 16:42, Macxi wrote: + + +><i> +</I>><i> The package "Drakbackup" is default in "Mandriva 2010.2", but i didn't find in +</I>><i> official repository of "Mageia 1", +</I>><i> +</I> +Drakbackup was not installed by default in mdv 2010.1/2. It had been +deprecated (since it is no longer maintained) and had been moved to contrib. + +Jim + + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004963.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004955.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4972">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4972">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4972">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4972">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..699273158 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,202 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 17 July 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>17 July 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Jul 17 03:33:27 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Jul 17 23:10:14 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 31<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? 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+</A><A NAME="4956"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4957"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4958"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004959.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4959"> </A> +<I>TJ +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004960.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4960"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004961.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4961"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4962"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004963.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4963"> </A> +<I>Macxi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004964.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4964"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4965"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004966.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4966"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004967.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4967"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4968"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4969"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004970.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4970"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4971"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004972.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4972"> </A> +<I>James Kerr +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Jul 17 23:10:14 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Jul 17 23:22:06 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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<b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Jul 17 23:10:14 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 31<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004955.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4955"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004970.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4970"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004972.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4972"> </A> +<I>James Kerr +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004942.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4942"> </A> +<I>Jeff Robins +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004943.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4943"> </A> +<I>Macxi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004944.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4944"> </A> +<I>Eugeni Dodonov +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004949.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4949"> </A> +<I>Andres Kaaber +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004950.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4950"> </A> +<I>Jeff Robins +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004951.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4951"> </A> +<I>Jeff Robins +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004952.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4952"> </A> +<I>Xuo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004963.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4963"> </A> +<I>Macxi +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4947"> </A> +<I>e-letter +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004956.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4956"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4957"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4958"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004959.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4959"> </A> +<I>TJ +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004964.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4964"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004967.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4967"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4968"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4969"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4945"> </A> +<I>Louie Pham +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4948"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4953"> </A> +<I>Marek Laane +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4954"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004960.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4960"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004961.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4961"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4962"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4965"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004966.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4966"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4971"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Release cycle, support and planning +</A><A NAME="4946"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Jul 17 23:10:14 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Jul 17 23:22:06 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..85bd66c35 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110717/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,255 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> 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--> +<LI><A HREF="004955.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4955"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01310866407-01310870481- --> +<LI><A HREF="004944.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4944"> </A> +<I>Eugeni Dodonov +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01310866407-01310870481-01310892547- --> +<LI><A HREF="004949.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4949"> </A> +<I>Andres Kaaber +</I> + +<!--2 01310866407-01310870481-01310892681- --> +<LI><A HREF="004950.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4950"> </A> +<I>Jeff Robins +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01310866407-01310934664- --> +<LI><A HREF="004970.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Ticket #16] Preferred backup program / drakbackup +</A><A NAME="4970"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01310875861- --> +<LI><A HREF="004945.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4945"> </A> +<I>Louie Pham +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01310875861-01310891937- --> +<LI><A HREF="004948.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4948"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01310875861-01310891937-01310895856- --> +<LI><A HREF="004953.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4953"> </A> +<I>Marek Laane +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01310875861-01310891937-01310895856-01310896880- --> +<LI><A HREF="004954.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4954"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01310875861-01310891937-01310895856-01310896880-01310914507- --> +<LI><A HREF="004960.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4960"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01310875861-01310891937-01310895856-01310896880-01310914507-01310915329- --> +<LI><A HREF="004961.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4961"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--3 01310875861-01310891937-01310895856-01310896880-01310914507-01310915329-01310915844- --> +<LI><A HREF="004962.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4962"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<!--3 01310875861-01310891937-01310895856-01310896880-01310914507-01310915329-01310919456- --> +<LI><A HREF="004966.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4966"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--3 01310875861-01310891937-01310895856-01310896880-01310914507-01310917913- --> +<LI><A HREF="004965.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4965"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<!--3 01310875861-01310891937-01310895856-01310896880-01310914507-01310936854- --> +<LI><A HREF="004971.html">[Mageia-discuss] Kmail +</A><A NAME="4971"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01310885953- --> +<LI><A HREF="004946.html">[Mageia-discuss] Release cycle, support and planning +</A><A NAME="4946"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<!--0 01310891528- --> +<LI><A HREF="004947.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4947"> </A> +<I>e-letter +</I> + +<!--0 01310903885- --> +<LI><A HREF="004956.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4956"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01310903885-01310906393- --> +<LI><A HREF="004957.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4957"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01310903885-01310906393-01310907108- --> +<LI><A HREF="004958.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4958"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<!--2 01310903885-01310906393-01310919955- --> +<LI><A HREF="004967.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4967"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01310903885-01310907465- --> +<LI><A HREF="004959.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4959"> </A> +<I>TJ +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01310903885-01310907465-01310917462- --> +<LI><A HREF="004964.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4964"> </A> +<I>Remco Rijnders +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01310903885-01310907465-01310917462-01310920282- --> +<LI><A HREF="004968.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4968"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01310921210- --> +<LI><A HREF="004969.html">[Mageia-discuss] Installer: Server v. desktop kernel: No choice? +</A><A NAME="4969"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Jul 17 23:10:14 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Jul 17 23:22:06 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + 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