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But this should not +</I>><i> >> automatically be interpreted to "Mageia needs easyurpm". Why not submit the +</I>><i> >> "standard" mirror selection offered by Mageia to an evolution that takes the +</I>><i> >> opinions expressed into account? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > This is more for after Mageia 1 release. Hopefully, we will have +</I>><i> > plenty of topics such as this one, that will be discussed/improved +</I>><i> > during the Summer. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> >> Question - what is more difficult: come to a common opinion on a solution +</I>><i> >> where everybody is happy, or do the corresponding implementation??? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > You won't please everybody anyway. So prototype something +</I>><i> > working/square enough for evaluation, with constraints/rules you find +</I>><i> > (or even better, find an existing solution - there must be some +</I>><i> > already existing). That suppose that the need is properly defined, +</I>><i> > written down first (part of it is "what is not satisfying currently" +</I>><i> > and "how can this be done within Mageia infrastructure"). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think I already defined the (long time existing) requirements properly, not? +</I>><i> See the first 3 "MUST HAVE" points. +</I> +Also add the most important point : +"someone to code everything" as MUST HAVE. + +Maybe people will see this as being arrogant, I would call this "setting +expectation". + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004340.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4337">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4337">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4337">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4337">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004338.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004338.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e0b353265 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004338.html @@ -0,0 +1,165 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1306103903.24450.50.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004340.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004342.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1306103903.24450.50.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 00:38:23 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004340.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004342.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4338">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4338">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4338">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4338">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 22 mai 2011 à 10:21 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2011/5/22 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +</I>><i> > Le dimanche 22 mai 2011 à 05:51 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +</I>><i> >> I haven't used EasyUrpmi, but I used the other (similar) web tool +</I>><i> >> SmartUrpmi regularly. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> My reason was not to add PLF or any other repo (MUD or other). My main +</I>><i> >> reason was my dislike of the %MIRRORLIST system of Mandriva, you could +</I>><i> >> get connected to a very slow mirror or even to one which was not +</I>><i> >> uptodate without urpmi being able to switch to another mirror during +</I>><i> >> one session (a known bug). So I used SmartUrpmi to select a mirror +</I>><i> >> which I knew to be fast, reliable and uptodate instead of playing +</I>><i> >> lottery with %MIRRORLIST. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > There is likely stuff to improve with mirrorlist selection indeed ( I +</I>><i> > would add AS number to it, as well as bandwidth, and push a smarter +</I>><i> > system in urpmi one day to get nearer mirros, and add some weight based +</I>><i> > on network related stuff ), but since everybody work around it, no one +</I>><i> > is motivated to improve it or provides information for that. So because +</I>><i> > people able to fix focus on not facing the problem and because there is +</I>><i> > a know workaround, newer users face the problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As soon as the %MIRRORLIST system +</I>><i> - checks the fastest mirror before using it +</I> +So far, no one gave a working system to find which one is the fastest +without a exhaustive test of all mirrors ( such a test would be quite +wasteful from my point of view, and quite irresponsible for people with +metered download ). And in fact, that's not what you likely want. You +want a mirror that is fast enough to be limited by your current network +connexion. If the ADSL connexion is full, that the mirror is giving 10 +or 100 mo directly to you doesn't matter much. + +Now, as I said, better system for selecting mirrors should be used. But +for that, we need to know : +1) what is the current system ( I think it is based on the geographical +position, which is a very very broad assumption, it help mostly to avoid +brasil people fetching stuff from europa and thing like that ) + +2) when did it gone wrong ( ie, the mirror that was selected and that +shouldn't, and why, and how could we discriminate for a user ) + +In fact, from a network point of view and given current peering +business, the fastest may not be the cheapest one for your isp, so +that's even harder ( cause they could do some throttling, etc ). + +Hence the suggestion of using AS numbers. +First check if a mirror is on the same network, then on the same AS, +then in the same country, then in the same timezone, then in the same +continent. It will likely make people in Antarctic unhappy. + + +><i> - checks the update status of the mirror before using it +</I>usually, for non cooker/cauldron, this is likely not a issue. Release is +frozen, at worst, you have a security update being late. + +And the current system should check more aggressively if the mirror is +up to date ( but it seems to not be the case at the moment since ibiblio +was late due to a change on their side ). + +On the other hand, we cannot force people to sync every 2h, and if a +tier2 mirror sync every day, it can quickly become out of the list +depending on the limit. If someone sync on a tier2 mirror that is +already late ( for some network related reason, like in australia where +the country is not that well connected to the rest of the world ), it +will also be more late, and that would be a bad side effect. + +Again, we need to have specific case of breakage to see how we could fix +anything, and more data on the mirrors to decide how and what to do, +what would be the impact, etc. + +><i> - switches to another mirror if the selected mirror is not reachable +</I>><i> or not uptodate +</I>I tried to fix that part, but unfortunately, the code is "suboptimal". +OTOH, using a manual mirror do not switch to a better mirror in case of +problem too ( IIRC ). + +><i> I will gladly forget all webtools and dedicated mirror selection. +</I>><i> (I remember writing almost the same at least 2 years ago in a same +</I>><i> discussion at Mandriva) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Worst, since people focus on specific mirrors ( d-c being the prime +</I>><i> > example ), the mirror slowly become more and more overloaded with +</I>><i> > requests, forcing admin of using complex scheme to divide the +</I>><i> > ressources. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can't avoid this. Users want to be connected to teh mirror which +</I>><i> provides the best service, you can't force them to use a slow mirror +</I>><i> just to protect better mirrors. +</I> + +We do not force them, they do by themself. If everybody use the same +mirror, sooner or later, the mirror become the slowest. Maybe sooner if +the admin is a trafic shaping master like Olivier. + +And after, we will see another mirror admin telling us "we removed the +tree because no one was using it" ( like switch.ch did for Mandriva ). + +So if this is what we want and repeat the same problems over and over +because we think we cannot fix users behavior, yes, let's do nothing. + +I think that the mirrors ecosystem also depend on the behavior of people +using it, and it is everybody responsibility to make sure it work fine. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004340.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004342.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4338">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4338">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4338">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4338">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004339.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004339.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..84cd999cd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004339.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1306104023.24450.52.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004343.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004341.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1306104023.24450.52.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 00:40:23 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004341.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4339">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4339">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4339">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4339">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 22 mai 2011 à 17:22 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2011/5/22 Juergen Harms <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>>: +</I>><i> > There appears to be a large number of users who are not satisfied with the +</I>><i> > Mandriva way of mirror selection (count me in). But this should not +</I>><i> > automatically be interpreted to "Mageia needs easyurpm". Why not submit the +</I>><i> > "standard" mirror selection offered by Mageia to an evolution that takes the +</I>><i> > opinions expressed into account? - and really make things like easyurpm +</I>><i> > unnecessary? Mageia is a community distro! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Question - what is more difficult: come to a common opinion on a solution +</I>><i> > where everybody is happy, or do the corresponding implementation??? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, as I said, I'd be happy if such additional 3rd party +</I>><i> applications would not be necessary. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've also listed the requirements: : +</I>><i> - a filter option to select only mirrors with tainted repos for those +</I>><i> who want to use them (a MUST HAVE) +</I> +Not taken in account so far on mirror list side. That would in fact be a +strong point for "switch to another mirror if the package is not here", +even if the non deterministic nature of the fix would be bad ( this +depend on the number of mirrors without tainted ). + + + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004341.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4339">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4339">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4339">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4339">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004340.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004340.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9547dd0e2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004340.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTinLZyB0pc3ceY12%3DM_0afOddGCdZA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004337.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004338.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTinLZyB0pc3ceY12%3DM_0afOddGCdZA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 00:40:29 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004337.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4340">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4340">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4340">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4340">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/5/23 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +><i> Le dimanche 22 mai 2011 à 17:47 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +</I>>><i> 2011/5/22 Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 16:51, Juergen Harms <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> >> There appears to be a large number of users who are not satisfied with the +</I>>><i> >> Mandriva way of mirror selection (count me in). But this should not +</I>>><i> >> automatically be interpreted to "Mageia needs easyurpm". Why not submit the +</I>>><i> >> "standard" mirror selection offered by Mageia to an evolution that takes the +</I>>><i> >> opinions expressed into account? +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > This is more for after Mageia 1 release. Hopefully, we will have +</I>>><i> > plenty of topics such as this one, that will be discussed/improved +</I>>><i> > during the Summer. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> >> Question - what is more difficult: come to a common opinion on a solution +</I>>><i> >> where everybody is happy, or do the corresponding implementation??? +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > You won't please everybody anyway. So prototype something +</I>>><i> > working/square enough for evaluation, with constraints/rules you find +</I>>><i> > (or even better, find an existing solution - there must be some +</I>>><i> > already existing). That suppose that the need is properly defined, +</I>>><i> > written down first (part of it is "what is not satisfying currently" +</I>>><i> > and "how can this be done within Mageia infrastructure"). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I think I already defined the (long time existing) requirements properly, not? +</I>>><i> See the first 3 "MUST HAVE" points. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also add the most important point : +</I>><i> "someone to code everything" as MUST HAVE. +</I> +Of course, not necessary to mention that, no coder, no software. +But other than usual requests for this or that package which may be +nice to have, in this case there is no "Nice to have". As was already +confirmed in Mandriva, the %MIRRORLIST system is buggy without +urpmi/rpmdrake being able to switch mirrors in case of a faulty or not +uptodate mirror (see latest experiences with ibiblio). + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004337.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4340">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4340">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4340">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4340">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004341.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004341.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1041fc0cb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004341.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vvwmzafan7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004339.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004344.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?</H1> + <B>David W. Hodgins</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vvwmzafan7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?">davidwhodgins at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 00:48:36 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4341">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4341">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4341">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4341">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 22 May 2011 12:07:46 -0400, Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> Open "configure media sources for install and update" -> File -> Add a +</I>><i> specific media mirror: +</I>><i> - it's already there on your box if you have rpmdrake installed +</I>><i> - there're no typos, you don't type anything here, it fetches the list +</I>><i> of mirrors and you can select the one you want +</I>><i> - what's not convenient about that :) +</I>><i> This method is the GUI equivalent of doing 'urpmi.addmedia --distrib +</I>><i> <mirror URL>'. +</I> +I've been using Mandrake/Mandriva/Magiea for years, and never new that +option existed. Thanks! :-) + +Regards, Dave Hodgins +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004339.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4341">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4341">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4341">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4341">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004342.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004342.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dfdc74c92 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004342.html @@ -0,0 +1,136 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3D%2BFk0BERMGZYyfn3LLiJw%3DqHGpvg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004338.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004343.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTi%3D%2BFk0BERMGZYyfn3LLiJw%3DqHGpvg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 01:14:13 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4342">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4342">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4342">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4342">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/5/23 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +>><i> +</I>>><i> As soon as the %MIRRORLIST system +</I>>><i>  - checks the fastest mirror before using it +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So far, no one gave a working system to find which one is the fastest +</I>><i> without a exhaustive test of all mirrors ( such a test would be quite +</I>><i> wasteful from my point of view, and quite irresponsible for people with +</I>><i> metered download ). And in fact, that's not what you likely want. You +</I>><i> want a mirror that is fast enough to be limited by your current network +</I>><i> connexion. If the ADSL connexion is full, that the mirror is giving 10 +</I>><i> or 100 mo directly to you doesn't matter much. +</I> +At Mandriva we had mirrors with much less bandwidth. So, I may have +been wrong in this point. You can't easily check the speed *before* +each transaction. But urpmi/rpmdrake should have an option to switch +to a different mirror if it turns out that the system has chosen a +mirror with low bandwidth. Of yourse, if we only accept mirrors with +><i>= 100MBit then this is obsolete. +</I> +><i> 1) what is the current system ( I think it is based on the geographical +</I>><i> position, which is a very very broad assumption, it help mostly to avoid +</I>><i> brasil people fetching stuff from europa and thing like that ) +</I> +Result is that they may be pointed to ibiblio - which is not really +helpful for them. + +><i> 2) when did it gone wrong ( ie, the mirror that was selected and that +</I>><i> shouldn't, and why, and how could we discriminate for a user ) +</I> +The selection can be wrong from several causes: + - it is not uptodate + - it is not reachable or has a shaky connection (very often the case +with some Mandriva mirrors in Germany and East Europe) + - it has an error in its hdlist (or whatever reasons an update can +not performed correctly from this mirror) + +To make it easy we could leave all prior checks out but invent an +option for the user to switch to a different mirror on the list in +case of such problems. + +>><i>  - checks the update status of the mirror before using it +</I>><i> usually, for non cooker/cauldron, this is likely not a issue. Release is +</I>><i> frozen, at worst, you have a security update being late. +</I> +It's an issue with all update branches of non-cauldron. + +><i> On the other hand, we cannot force people to sync every 2h, and if a +</I>><i> tier2 mirror sync every day, it can quickly become out of the list +</I>><i> depending on the limit. If someone sync on a tier2 mirror that is +</I>><i> already late ( for some network related reason, like in australia where +</I>><i> the country is not that well connected to the rest of the world ), it +</I>><i> will also be more late, and that would be a bad side effect. +</I> +Yes, but if it is late it is late, no matter what the reason, as a +user I would want to have the option to switch to another mirror which +is not late. + +>><i>  - switches to another mirror if the selected mirror is not reachable +</I>>><i> or not uptodate +</I>><i> I tried to fix that part, but unfortunately, the code is "suboptimal". +</I>><i> OTOH, using a manual mirror do not switch to a better mirror in case of +</I>><i> problem too ( IIRC ). +</I> +That's right. But when I select a mirror manually I would select one +which is known as reliable, if that one is broke once in a lifetime I +would not switch but wait. + +But reading all this I realize that we put much too much energy into +this discussion. As I wrote earlier in this thread I totally +understand that there may be technical or other reasons which may +stand in the way of changing something here. So, what would happen if +we do not change anything wrt this issue? +1. Users will go on using the mirrorlist system, no problem. +2. Users who know what to do will use their favourite mirror. +3. Soon we will have some 3rd party putting up a webtool as EasyUrpmi +or SmartUrpmi somewhere and this whole thread is obsolete. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004343.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4342">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4342">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4342">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4342">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004343.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004343.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..296200b67 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004343.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? 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The upgrade take about over one hours to complete, but it +able to complete sucessfuly. Only hardware issued with kernel 2.6.38.2 have +problem with out of date Broadcom Wifi firmware out of date problem, and other +then that I had no other hardware issued. I was able to fix the wifi firmware +problem. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004341.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004345.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4344">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4344">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4344">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4344">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004345.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004345.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..14ddea7f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004345.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20with%20Mandriva%202010.2%20to%20Mageia%20RC&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTin7onuGWnUC_w3aWSegnaHuP5it_g%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004344.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004346.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC</H1> + <B>Franklin Weng</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20with%20Mandriva%202010.2%20to%20Mageia%20RC&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTin7onuGWnUC_w3aWSegnaHuP5it_g%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC">franklin at goodhorse.idv.tw + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 05:34:44 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4345">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4345">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4345">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4345">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/5/23 Luan Pham <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">pham182b at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Yesterday I decide to reinstall MDV 2010.2 for both Laptop using i586 and +</I>><i> x86_64 release.  The upgrade take about over one hours to complete, but it +</I>><i> able to complete sucessfuly.   Only hardware issued with kernel 2.6.38.2 have +</I>><i> problem with out of date Broadcom Wifi firmware out of date problem, and other +</I>><i> then that I had no other hardware issued.  I was able to fix the wifi firmware +</I>><i> problem. +</I>><i> +</I> +I upgraded my Mdv 2010.2 to Mageia 1 RC last Friday. + +No big issues, just: + +* The X resolution is kind of strange. The bottom of my KDE desktop +was gone. I tried to change the resolution in my X settings but +nothing changed. Now I changed a screen (to let it detect the screen +resolution automatically). The bottom of the KDE desktop was still +gone (my original panel), but at least the applications would not be +launched at that position. +* Now I have two notification bubble everytime my KDE wants to note me +something. + +But it could still work. The Mageia system is running fine in my PC now. + + +Franklin +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4345">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4345">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4345">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4345">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004346.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004346.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1023b09c0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004346.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20with%20Mandriva%202010.2%20to%20Mageia%20RC&In-Reply-To=%3C4DDA05F2.907%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004345.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004348.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC</H1> + <B>Juergen Harms</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20with%20Mandriva%202010.2%20to%20Mageia%20RC&In-Reply-To=%3C4DDA05F2.907%40unige.ch%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 09:00:02 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004345.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004348.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4346">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4346">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4346">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4346">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Franklin - the X resolution problem might be the same I had on my Dell +Laptop - see Bugzilla #9. The suggested workaround corresponds to what +you have done to fix the problem. + +If this really is the case, would be nice if you add a comment to #119 +giving your specific data (and documenting that the problem also occurs +with other hardware) + +Juergen +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004345.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004348.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4346">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4346">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4346">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4346">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004347.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004347.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..87b153748 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004347.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTineaZJj4F%2Bg%2BP%3DgQfqoPwdb%3DmLY%2Bw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004348.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004349.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Easyurpmi%20forMageia%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTineaZJj4F%2Bg%2BP%3DgQfqoPwdb%3DmLY%2Bw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 09:41:22 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004348.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Nvidia and compiz +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4347">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4347">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4347">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4347">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 17:47, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> 2011/5/22 Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>>><i> Question - what is more difficult: come to a common opinion on a solution +</I>>>><i> where everybody is happy, or do the corresponding implementation??? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> You won't please everybody anyway. So prototype something +</I>>><i> working/square enough for evaluation, with constraints/rules you find +</I>>><i> (or even better, find an existing solution - there must be some +</I>>><i> already existing). That suppose that the need is properly defined, +</I>>><i> written down first (part of it is "what is not satisfying currently" +</I>>><i> and "how can this be done within Mageia infrastructure"). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think I already defined the (long time existing) requirements properly, not? +</I> +I was not answering your point at the time. But yes. Is there a bug +(or a set of these) open about this topic? (because these should be +assigned for Mageia 2 milestone, not before at least). + +><i> I don't think there is an already existing solution in Mandriva/Mageia +</I>><i> (as I said, it was a longterm and still existing bug in mandriva with +</I>><i> no change so far). +</I> +I think that, having to still manually handle this, most of the time, +is the thing to fix. Easyurpmi was a useful manual solution in its +time for a given context. + +Although it is no question to remove the ability to manually handle +this if needed, improving the automatic way is the real issue. + +A service that: + - manages a list of mirrors that are up to date for a given set of +files (be it RPMs or ISOs), + - answers a list of best mirrors for a given client location (with +better criterias than just "belongs to the same country") and a given +set of files, + +is not so uncommon (had I more time right now, I'd investigate the +server-side of things with MirrorBrain or some equivalent, at least to +improve the accuracy of the list of mirrors returned by the server - +this would be useful for both direct ISOs downloads and +packages/updates downloads). + +><i> - a filter option to select only mirrors with tainted repos for those +</I>><i> who want to use them (a MUST HAVE) +</I>><i> - urpmi/rpmdrake being able to check the selected mirror for +</I>><i> availability and uptodate status before using the mirror (a MUST HAVE) +</I>><i> - ability of urpmi/rpmdrake to switch to another mirror if the +</I>><i> availability and/or uptodate status is not given (a MUST HAVE) +</I>><i> - option to switch the mirror during a session if connection speed is +</I>><i> too slow (compared to other known mirrors) (a NICE TO HAVE) +</I> +If there's not one already, bug entries + a master bug would be nice. + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004348.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Nvidia and compiz +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4347">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4347">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4347">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4347">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004348.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004348.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2b49776fe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004348.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20with%20Mandriva%202010.2%20to%20Mageia%20RC&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimiq1e%3DCzECTR9ZMkG-Tihbae7Q9Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004346.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004347.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC</H1> + <B>Franklin Weng</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Upgrade%20with%20Mandriva%202010.2%20to%20Mageia%20RC&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTimiq1e%3DCzECTR9ZMkG-Tihbae7Q9Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC">franklin at goodhorse.idv.tw + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 11:50:44 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4348">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4348">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4348">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4348">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I added a comment there. But I think that your workaround didn't +solve my condition. + +Now I still have an invisible panel "sinking" below the screen edge. + + +2011/5/23 Juergen Harms <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>>: +><i> Franklin - the X resolution problem might be the same I had on my Dell +</I>><i> Laptop - see Bugzilla #9. The suggested workaround corresponds to what you +</I>><i> have done to fix the problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If this really is the case, would be nice if you add a comment to #119 +</I>><i> giving your specific data (and documenting that the problem also occurs with +</I>><i> other hardware) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Juergen +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4348">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4348">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4348">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4348">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004349.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004349.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..928ac7f5a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/004349.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Nvidia and compiz + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Nvidia%20and%20compiz&In-Reply-To=%3C4DDA3E0C.3030004%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004347.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004350.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Nvidia and compiz</H1> + <B>Marianne Lombard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Nvidia%20and%20compiz&In-Reply-To=%3C4DDA3E0C.3030004%40tuxette.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Nvidia and compiz">marianne at tuxette.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Mon May 23 12:59:24 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? 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This may be a round robin in +a country, a continent or in the world. A specific mirror can also be +specified. +ntp tests the servers, give them the label unusable or usable and selects the +best of them. +My opinion is that such a program could be possible with the mirrors. + +Your opinion? + +-- +Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A> +Vice-président de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org/">http://abul.org/</A> +Microsoft est à l'informatique ce que McDonald est à la gastronomie. +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4351">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4351">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4351">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4351">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8d43bf289 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110523/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 23 May 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>23 May 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon May 23 00:19:30 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon May 23 14:39:27 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 15<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004340.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A><A NAME="4340"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004342.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A><A NAME="4342"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A><A NAME="4346"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004341.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A><A NAME="4341"> </A> +<I>David W. 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Hodgins +</I> + +<!--0 01306121212- --> +<LI><A HREF="004344.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A><A NAME="4344"> </A> +<I>Luan Pham +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01306121212-01306121684- --> +<LI><A HREF="004345.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A><A NAME="4345"> </A> +<I>Franklin Weng +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01306121212-01306121684-01306134002- --> +<LI><A HREF="004346.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A><A NAME="4346"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01306121212-01306121684-01306134002-01306144244- --> +<LI><A HREF="004348.html">[Mageia-discuss] Upgrade with Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia RC +</A><A NAME="4348"> </A> +<I>Franklin Weng +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01306136482- --> +<LI><A HREF="004347.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A><A NAME="4347"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<!--0 01306148364- --> +<LI><A HREF="004349.html">[Mageia-discuss] Nvidia and compiz +</A><A NAME="4349"> </A> +<I>Marianne Lombard +</I> + +<!--0 01306153502- --> +<LI><A HREF="004350.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A><A NAME="4350"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + +<!--0 01306154367- --> +<LI><A HREF="004351.html">[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ? +</A><A NAME="4351"> </A> +<I>Pierre Jarillon +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon May 23 14:39:27 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon May 23 14:39:46 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |