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   <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Easyurpmi forMageia ?</H1>
    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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    <I>Mon May 23 09:41:22 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 17:47, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
&gt;<i> 2011/5/22 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Question - what is more difficult: come to a common opinion on a solution
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> where everybody is happy, or do the corresponding implementation???
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You won't please everybody anyway. So prototype something
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> working/square enough for evaluation, with constraints/rules you find
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (or even better, find an existing solution - there must be some
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> already existing). That suppose that the need is properly defined,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> written down first (part of it is &quot;what is not satisfying currently&quot;
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and &quot;how can this be done within Mageia infrastructure&quot;).
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</I>&gt;<i> I think I already defined the (long time existing) requirements properly, not?
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I was not answering your point at the time. But yes. Is there a bug
(or a set of these) open about this topic? (because these should be
assigned for Mageia 2 milestone, not before at least).

&gt;<i> I don't think there is an already existing solution in Mandriva/Mageia
</I>&gt;<i> (as I said, it was a longterm and still existing bug in mandriva with
</I>&gt;<i> no change so far).
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I think that, having to still manually handle this, most of the time,
is the thing to fix. Easyurpmi was a useful manual solution in its
time for a given context.

Although it is no question to remove the ability to manually handle
this if needed, improving the automatic way is the real issue.

A service that:
 - manages a list of mirrors that are up to date for a given set of
files (be it RPMs or ISOs),
 - answers a list of best mirrors for a given client location (with
better criterias than just &quot;belongs to the same country&quot;) and a given
set of files,

is not so uncommon (had I more time right now, I'd investigate the
server-side of things with MirrorBrain or some equivalent, at least to
improve the accuracy of the list of mirrors returned by the server -
this would be useful for both direct ISOs downloads and
packages/updates downloads).

&gt;<i> - a filter option to select only mirrors with tainted repos for those
</I>&gt;<i> who want to use them (a MUST HAVE)
</I>&gt;<i> - urpmi/rpmdrake being able to check the selected mirror for
</I>&gt;<i> availability and uptodate status before using the mirror (a MUST HAVE)
</I>&gt;<i> - ability of urpmi/rpmdrake to switch to another mirror if the
</I>&gt;<i> availability and/or uptodate status is not given (a MUST HAVE)
</I>&gt;<i> - option to switch the mirror during a session if connection speed is
</I>&gt;<i> too slow (compared to other known mirrors) (a NICE TO HAVE)
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If there's not one already, bug entries + a master bug would be nice.

Cheers,

Romain
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