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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI</B>
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 02 March 2011, my mailbox was graced by a missive
+ from Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; who wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Imagine a distribution only supplying Linux and what remains
+</I>&gt;<i> from the GNU project (especially Emacs) - would any user actually use
+</I>&gt;<i> it (except developpers and &quot;tech freaks&quot;)? I serioously doubt that
+</I>&gt;<i> this kind of package would never have made it out of the university
+</I>&gt;<i> and research labs environment, let alone conquer the business world.
+</I>
+This reminds me of the first distribution I installed arounf 1995 (Slackware)
+(which then came on umpteen floppies) and though it had Xwindows, without a WL
+it was unusable; only the game Abuse was of any use then !
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ Was wir nicht verstehen, besitzen wir nicht.
+ -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
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+ <B>Hoyt Duff</B>
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+<PRE>On 3/2/11, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So much about the real value of Stallman's demand from my POV. I do
+</I>&gt;<i> not want to belittle his and the GNU project's merits but I want to
+</I>&gt;<i> set proportions right.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If there were overwhelming support for the kind of thing RMS
+advocates, it would have been accomplished by now because a consensus
+would have emerged. That we are even having this conversation
+demonstrates that it has not.
+
+I appreiate what RMS has contributed, but as time goes on he sounds
+more and more like a crazed King Canute . History will deliver
+whatever his legacy will be; he cannot command it. It's sad that he
+believes he can.
+
+We can easly have a page in the wiki that recounts our collective
+appreciation for all those who have contributed to what has
+collectively and commonly become known as 'Linux'. Those who wish to
+rage in support against the ignominy of the percieved
+disenfranchisement that absorbs RMS in his each waking moment can find
+their satisfaction there -- if that is even possible.
+
+But please let us move beyond this neverending GNU/Linux-versus-Linux
+variation on the *-versus-* style of mental masturbation so dear to
+some geeks. There will never be any clear winner and the only clear
+loser is eveybody who reads this thread.
+
+Let it go or you'll lose too.
+
+--
+Hoyt
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 02 mars 2011 &#224; 23:22 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/2 Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andresalaun at free.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But using only Linux because it is &quot;common&quot; for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; uninformed people is simplistic ; as we say in French :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#171; l'enfer est pav&#233; de bonnes intentions &#187;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#171; the road to hell is paved with good intentions &#187;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Furthermore someone (like me and some others perhaps ) can be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; interesting in &#171; popular education &#187; (&#233;ducation populaire) and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; relations between free software, free sciences free...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Oversimplification of the word is always oversimplifaction of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; concept. Even if it seems to be easier I see that as a fault.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have seen the history of GNU and Linux and their &quot;marriage&quot; (because
+</I>&gt;<i> the GNU people did not have any simple and free kernel for their
+</I>&gt;<i> software). So, from my point of view there's a good chance that Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> could have grown to a full operating system even without the GNU
+</I>&gt;<i> project.
+</I>
+The gnu project provided lots of software, some quite unavoidable like a
+compiler, a standard library, or stuff like screen, gettext and slightly
+low level tools ( binutils, coreutils, etc ).
+
+&gt;<i> On the other side nobody could tell if the GNU project would
+</I>&gt;<i> have survived without Linux. Both thoughts are speculations, of
+</I>&gt;<i> course.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But would a GNU/Linux naming policy not neglect the merits of all the
+</I>&gt;<i> other projects who actually made the &quot;Gnu/Linux&quot; system a real usable
+</I>&gt;<i> package? Imagine a distribution only supplying Linux and what remains
+</I>&gt;<i> from the GNU project (especially Emacs) - would any user actually use
+</I>&gt;<i> it (except developpers and &quot;tech freaks&quot;)?
+</I>
+I doubt developers would use something without gcc ( granted, there is
+pcc or llvm ) and without a libc ( granted again, someone could use a
+alternative like dietlibc etc )
+
+&gt;<i> I serioously doubt that
+</I>&gt;<i> this kind of package would never have made it out of the university
+</I>&gt;<i> and research labs environment, let alone conquer the business world.
+</I>
+Some people did it : <A HREF="http://www.skarnet.org/poweredby.html">http://www.skarnet.org/poweredby.html</A>
+
+( and some would say that this is almost done for <A HREF="http://openbsd.org/">http://openbsd.org/</A> ,
+since the compiler is near 1.0 :
+<A HREF="http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&amp;sid=20110223045047">http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&amp;sid=20110223045047</A> )
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>Mageia Alpha1 works nicely on my desktop, playing sound
+out-of-the-box. Not so on my laptop.
+
+All multimedia application are working (videos with vlc and dragon,
+music with amarok, flashplayer-square-plugin in firefox) but all
+without sound.
+PulseAudio is enabled, but when I start pavucontrol it tries to
+connect to pulseaudio and stays like that, it can not connect to the
+soundserver, so it seems.
+
+Kmix shows no channels at all.
+Audio configuration shows HDA Intel (ALC269 Analog)
+
+As all this works in my desktop machine it may not be a bug, just a
+bad configuration
+
+--
+wobo
+</PRE>
+
+
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+ <B>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m</B>
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+ <I>Thu Mar 3 11:09:37 CET 2011</I>
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+&gt;<i> Mageia Alpha1 works nicely on my desktop, playing sound
+</I>&gt;<i> out-of-the-box. Not so on my laptop.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All multimedia application are working (videos with vlc and dragon,
+</I>&gt;<i> music with amarok, flashplayer-square-plugin in firefox) but all
+</I>&gt;<i> without sound.
+</I>&gt;<i> PulseAudio is enabled, but when I start pavucontrol it tries to
+</I>&gt;<i> connect to pulseaudio and stays like that, it can not connect to the
+</I>&gt;<i> soundserver, so it seems.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kmix shows no channels at all.
+</I>&gt;<i> Audio configuration shows HDA Intel (ALC269 Analog)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As all this works in my desktop machine it may not be a bug, just a
+</I>&gt;<i> bad configuration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Did you check the bugzilla if the issue has been reported as well?
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+&gt;<i> 2011-03-03 11:04, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia Alpha1 works nicely on my desktop, playing sound
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> out-of-the-box. Not so on my laptop.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All multimedia application are working (videos with vlc and dragon,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> music with amarok, flashplayer-square-plugin in firefox) but all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without sound.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PulseAudio is enabled, but when I start pavucontrol it tries to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> connect to pulseaudio and stays like that, it can not connect to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> soundserver, so it seems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kmix shows no channels at all.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Audio configuration shows HDA Intel (ALC269 Analog)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As all this works in my desktop machine it may not be a bug, just a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bad configuration
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you check the bugzilla if the issue has been reported as well?
+</I>
+Yes, it's not (search with &quot;sound&quot; does not show a similar problem).
+
+Additional info:
+When I start 'alsamixer' in a console window I get a &quot;connection
+refused&quot; from PulseAudio.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/3/3 Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011-03-03 11:04, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia Alpha1 works nicely on my desktop, playing sound
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> out-of-the-box. Not so on my laptop.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All multimedia application are working (videos with vlc and dragon,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> music with amarok, flashplayer-square-plugin in firefox) but all
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> without sound.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> PulseAudio is enabled, but when I start pavucontrol it tries to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> connect to pulseaudio and stays like that, it can not connect to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> soundserver, so it seems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Kmix shows no channels at all.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Audio configuration shows HDA Intel (ALC269 Analog)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As all this works in my desktop machine it may not be a bug, just a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bad configuration
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Did you check the bugzilla if the issue has been reported as well?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, it's not (search with &quot;sound&quot; does not show a similar problem).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Additional info:
+</I>&gt;<i> When I start 'alsamixer' in a console window I get a &quot;connection
+</I>&gt;<i> refused&quot; from PulseAudio.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+for the last error, can you look on draksound if pulseaudio is started ?
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/3/3 Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011-03-03 11:04, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia Alpha1 works nicely on my desktop, playing sound
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> out-of-the-box. Not so on my laptop.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All multimedia application are working (videos with vlc and dragon,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> music with amarok, flashplayer-square-plugin in firefox) but all
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> without sound.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> PulseAudio is enabled, but when I start pavucontrol it tries to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> connect to pulseaudio and stays like that, it can not connect to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> soundserver, so it seems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Kmix shows no channels at all.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Audio configuration shows HDA Intel (ALC269 Analog)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As all this works in my desktop machine it may not be a bug, just a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bad configuration
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did you check the bugzilla if the issue has been reported as well?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, it's not (search with &quot;sound&quot; does not show a similar problem).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Additional info:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When I start 'alsamixer' in a console window I get a &quot;connection
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> refused&quot; from PulseAudio.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for the last error, can you look on draksound if pulseaudio is started ?
+</I>
+draksound shows that &quot;activate Pulse Audio&quot; (or similar, I'm using
+german) is marked.
+Driver shows: snd_hda_intel [ALSA]
+
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 03/03/11 10:04 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Mageia Alpha1 works nicely on my desktop, playing sound
+</I>&gt;<i> out-of-the-box. Not so on my laptop.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All multimedia application are working (videos with vlc and dragon,
+</I>&gt;<i> music with amarok, flashplayer-square-plugin in firefox) but all
+</I>&gt;<i> without sound.
+</I>&gt;<i> PulseAudio is enabled, but when I start pavucontrol it tries to
+</I>&gt;<i> connect to pulseaudio and stays like that, it can not connect to the
+</I>&gt;<i> soundserver, so it seems.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kmix shows no channels at all.
+</I>&gt;<i> Audio configuration shows HDA Intel (ALC269 Analog)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As all this works in my desktop machine it may not be a bug, just a
+</I>&gt;<i> bad configuration
+</I>
+Yo,
+
+Feel free to hit me up on IRC to debug (it's often easier), but in the
+meantime:
+
+ps aux | grep pulse
+xprop -root | grep -i pulse | grep -vi cookie
+PULSE_LOG=99 pactl stat
+pacmd ls
+
+
+If pulse is not running, then trying:
+pulseaudio -vvvvv
+would help too.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Col
+
+
+
+--
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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+<PRE>Thx for the offer to debug on IRC but I'm occupied with other work
+right now and could not follow IRC at the moment. But I can use mail
+every now and then :)
+
+2011/3/3 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ps aux | grep pulse
+</I>
+returns only the grep process, pulse is not running.
+
+&gt;<i> If pulse is not running, then trying:
+</I>&gt;<i> pulseaudio -vvvvv
+</I>&gt;<i> would help too.
+</I>
+This returns many information but in the end the main problem shows:
+
+&quot;Daemon refuses execution, no modules are loaded&quot; (translated from German)
+
+This seems to be the problem! But which modules and why are they not loaded?
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+&gt;<i> Thx for the offer to debug on IRC but I'm occupied with other work
+</I>&gt;<i> right now and could not follow IRC at the moment. But I can use mail
+</I>&gt;<i> every now and then :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011/3/3 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ps aux | grep pulse
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> returns only the grep process, pulse is not running.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If pulse is not running, then trying:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pulseaudio -vvvvv
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would help too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This returns many information but in the end the main problem shows:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Daemon refuses execution, no modules are loaded&quot; (translated from German)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This seems to be the problem! But which modules and why are they not
+</I>&gt;<i> loaded?
+</I>are you not missing lib(64)pulseaudio0 rpm ?
+
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+&gt;<i> are you not missing lib(64)pulseaudio0 rpm ?
+</I>
+$ rpm -qa|grep lib64pulseaudio
+lib64pulseaudio0-0.9.22-4.mga1
+lib64pulseaudio-devel-0.9.22-4.mga1
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+(where sound is working) but I can't find any possible reason.
+The main point is: pulse does not start because of missing modules -
+but because of lacking knowledge I can't find out which modules are
+missing and why.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Calendar: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#time_table_utc">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings#time_table_utc</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest: there is a calendar plugin for DokuWiki: &#160;(<A HREF="http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:wikicalendar">http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:wikicalendar</A>)
+</I>
+Yes, but this DokuWiki is only temporary, we will use MediaWiki soon.
+In case you missed it: a temporary calendar has been set up with
+Google calendar. see <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/">http://blog.mageia.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Uninstall compiz and nvidia-configure it offer nothing - kwin works, but without
+access to options!
+(Linux piotr_mag 2.6.37.2-desktop-1.mga #1 SMP Sat Feb 26 01:40:03 UTC 2011
+x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux)
+
+
+Piotr Walczak
+
+---------------------------------------------------------------
+Wybierz Queen of Poland!
+Ocen i zaglosuj na wybrana dziewczyne &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://linkint.pl/f2930">http://linkint.pl/f2930</A>
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+<PRE>i have this card internet
+r8169 : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.|RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (rev: 03)
+And with Mageia i did nt have any problem since yesterday that i dont have internet connexion
+
+To be connected i have to execute this commande:
+ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off
+
+Before (mandriva) i had this setting:
+
+i created this file:
+/etc/modprobe.d/r8169.conf
+
+with this content:
+# turn off autonegotiation on the r8169 ethernet driver
+install r8169 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install r8169 &amp;&amp; /usr/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off
+
+
+The problem is that now it does nt work and i have to run the command &quot;ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off&quot; manually
+
+Is any other setting that i can to do have internet connexion on every boot, or to execute this command on boot
+
+
+Thanks
+
+
+
+
+--
+Dimitrios Glentadakis
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+&gt;<i> Uninstall compiz and nvidia-configure it offer nothing - kwin works, but without
+</I>&gt;<i> access to options!
+</I>&gt;<i> (Linux piotr_mag 2.6.37.2-desktop-1.mga #1 SMP Sat Feb 26 01:40:03 UTC 2011
+</I>&gt;<i> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Piotr Walczak
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> Wybierz Queen of Poland!
+</I>&gt;<i> Ocen i zaglosuj na wybrana dziewczyne &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://linkint.pl/f2930">http://linkint.pl/f2930</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>in the file ~/.kde4/share/config/kwinrc
+
+Make sure you have the following settings:
+
+ CheckIsSafe=false
+ DisableChecks=true
+ OpenGLIsUnsafe=false
+
+Try first the :
+DisableChecks=true
+
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 14:10:27 schreef Lawrence A Fossi:
+&gt;<i> Taken from the front page of the openSuSe website:
+</I>&gt;<i> openSUSE is a free and Linux-based operating system for your PC, Laptop or
+</I>&gt;<i> Server. You can surf the web, manage your e-mails and photos, do office
+</I>&gt;<i> work, play videos or music and have a lot of fun!
+</I>&gt;<i> No mention of GNU anywhere.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Honestly I agree that GNU should be acknowledged but trying to change the
+</I>&gt;<i> meaning on Linux in the here and now to what is was supposed to be 18
+</I>&gt;<i> years ago is not a losing battle it's one that has already been lost!
+</I>
+we should not forget that GNU had also tried to make a kernel of itself...
+which was a total failure.
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+&gt;<i> I have compared the laptop installation with the desktop installation
+</I>&gt;<i> (where sound is working) but I can't find any possible reason.
+</I>&gt;<i> The main point is: pulse does not start because of missing modules -
+</I>&gt;<i> but because of lacking knowledge I can't find out which modules are
+</I>&gt;<i> missing and why.
+</I>
+it is odd, because i tried a laptop installation and the sound worked,
+(allthough i was just too quiet).
+
+i also have the snd_hda_intel driver
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+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we should not forget that GNU had also tried to make a kernel of itself...
+</I>&gt;<i> which was a total failure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The Mach microkernel
+<A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/mach.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/mach.html</A>
+is used by the GNU Hurd
+<A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html</A>
+with even a Debian version of it
+<A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/debian.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/debian.html</A>
+
+So, not a total failure. Just not wildly popular or widely supported.
+
+Please avoid asking for Hurd-powered Mageia. 8)
+
+--
+Hoyt
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+&gt;<i> On 3/3/11, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we should not forget that GNU had also tried to make a kernel of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; itself... which was a total failure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mach microkernel
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/mach.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/mach.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> is used by the GNU Hurd
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> with even a Debian version of it
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/debian.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/debian.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, not a total failure. Just not wildly popular or widely supported.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please avoid asking for Hurd-powered Mageia. 8)
+</I>
+i will, thanks :-)
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 03 maart 2011 17:07:13 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have compared the laptop installation with the desktop installation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (where sound is working) but I can't find any possible reason.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The main point is: pulse does not start because of missing modules -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but because of lacking knowledge I can't find out which modules are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> missing and why.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it is odd, because i tried a laptop installation and the sound worked,
+</I>&gt;<i> (allthough i was just too quiet).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i also have the snd_hda_intel driver
+</I>
+I found some new infos:
+
+1. At installation time one of the needed libs is not available for
+sound configuration (it is not on the install medium, only on ftp
+tree). So when I try to configure sound in the installation summary
+the configuration ends with an error (see bugzilla). But this can't be
+the reason because it's working on my desktop machine where I used the
+same installation medium.
+
+2. lspci say that there are 2 sound devices available:
+00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corp 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High
+Definition Audio (rev 06)
+02:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corp High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
+
+But I may better wait for Alpha 2 - after the latest updates somehow
+my whole installation is going down the drain:
+ - opening a console window and typing 'mc' leads to a freeze of the
+complete system freeze (not even SysReq keys working) - reproducible.
+ - opening vlc, choosing &quot;File - Open file&quot; leads to a crash of vlc -
+reproducible
+ - clicking on starter icons in the task bar (like Firefox) does not
+start anything (only occasional, after logout/login it works again.
+ - installing the proprietary nvidia driver works, splash screen shows
+the beta driver - after latest update I get the message that there is
+no proprietary driver available, starting with free driver.
+
+So I guess it makes not much sense to go on hunting for the cause of
+&quot;no sound&quot; before Alpha 2 is out.
+Hopefully these problems will be gone because this is the machine I
+will have to use at our stand in Chemnitz in 2 weeks to demonstrate
+mageia! :(
+
+--
+wobo
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+
+
+---------- Forwarded message ----------
+From: Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+Date: 2011/3/3
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+To: Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+
+I looked into rpmdrake and just for a chance I searched for &quot;pulse&quot; -
+task-pulseaudio was not installed. I marked it for installation and 17
+packages were installed as dependencies! I also recognized that
+/etc/pulse/system.pa was completely missing.
+After a reboot I had to make a change in the speaker configuration of
+phonon (via KDE config tool) and Ho! - Then there was sound! :)
+
+Looks like something at installation time went wrong (see point #1 in
+my previous mail).
+
+Thx all for your time and efforts
+
+--
+wobo
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+<LI><A HREF="003861.html">[Mageia-discuss] kwin
+</A><A NAME="3861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003853.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="4070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>MacXi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="3857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>MacXi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003859.html">[Mageia-discuss] kwin
+</A><A NAME="3859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Piotr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003862.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Mar 3 23:51:30 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Mar 28 18:17:13 CEST 2011</i>
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+ <h1>3 March 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 3 00:13:44 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Mar 3 23:51:30 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 26<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003852.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003853.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="4070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>MacXi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003859.html">[Mageia-discuss] kwin
+</A><A NAME="3859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Piotr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="3857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>MacXi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="3858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cannot connect to the internet (ethernet) without an extra command
+</A><A NAME="3860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003861.html">[Mageia-discuss] kwin
+</A><A NAME="3861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003862.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003864.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003866.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003867.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Mar 3 23:51:30 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Mar 28 18:17:13 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>3 March 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 3 00:13:44 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Mar 3 23:51:30 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 26<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cannot connect to the internet (ethernet) without an extra command
+</A><A NAME="3860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003867.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003859.html">[Mageia-discuss] kwin
+</A><A NAME="3859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Piotr
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003861.html">[Mageia-discuss] kwin
+</A><A NAME="3861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003862.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003864.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="004070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="4070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>MacXi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="3857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>MacXi
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="3858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003852.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003853.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003866.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Mar 3 23:51:30 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Mar 28 18:17:13 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar 3 00:13:44 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Mar 3 23:51:30 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 26<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01299107624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003843.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299107937- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01299113452- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003845.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299113452-01299157827- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lawrence A Fossi
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299113452-01299157827-01299185220- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003862.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299113452-01299157827-01299185220-01299186655- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003864.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299113452-01299157827-01299185220-01299186655-01299188515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003865.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS
+</A><A NAME="3865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01299146657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003846.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01299146657-01299146977- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003847.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299146657-01299146977-01299147610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003848.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299146657-01299146977-01299147610-01299147731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003849.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299146657-01299146977-01299147610-01299147731-01299148117- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003850.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01299146657-01299151401- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003851.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01299146657-01299151401-01299156067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003852.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01299146657-01299151401-01299156067-01299157617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003853.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299146657-01299151401-01299156067-01299157617-01299157869- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003855.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299146657-01299151401-01299156067-01299157617-01299157869-01299168433- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003856.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01299146657-01299151401-01299156067-01299157617-01299157869-01299168433-01299185480- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003863.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
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+<LI><A HREF="003866.html">[Mageia-discuss] Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
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+</UL>
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+<!--0 01299171050- -->
+<LI><A HREF="004070.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="4070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>MacXi
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+<LI><A HREF="003859.html">[Mageia-discuss] kwin
+</A><A NAME="3859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Piotr
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+<LI><A HREF="003861.html">[Mageia-discuss] kwin
+</A><A NAME="3861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
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+<!--0 01299171200- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003857.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="3857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>MacXi
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+<!--1 01299171200-01299171723- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003858.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia calendar - plugin dokuwiki
+</A><A NAME="3858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<!--0 01299174155- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003860.html">[Mageia-discuss] Cannot connect to the internet (ethernet) without an extra command
+</A><A NAME="3860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
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+
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+<LI><A HREF="003867.html">[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: Sound in Mageia?
+</A><A NAME="3867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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